Anyone got a good take on this fallacy ?

[Scaramouche]

Hi Hamarabimbi,
"Chads get hit hard by women trying to tie them down. The pressure is relentless.".....You make it sound like Hell for the poor Devils,while Old Amsterdam says it's lots'a fun".

 

[Scaramouche]

I feel Pornography,also has much to answer for,it can make Men just a bit too fussy....Indeed they may be right,it may not just be the only option but be preferable,to stoking some of the Plug Uglies,left at the back of the Queue.LOL.

 

[zekko]

I'm trying to understand how women are able to dominate and control the sex / dating market so well

One reason is women want the best man, but men like variety. That keeps a lot of women in demand.

 

[Bingo-Player]

One reason is women want the best man, but men like variety. That keeps a lot of women in demand.

thats a good point

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

nobody really has an upper hand. if the goal is to be happy, it's in the best for almost all people to pair up..

Every relationship has a (power) dynamic. In many relationships, women hold that power by keeping a firm grip on their man's penis, but they're actually happier if they find a man who cannot be led by his trouser snake.

women who think they are better than most men will, if they are not careful, outsmart themselves.

Probably. There is also a trend that highly educated women have more trouble getting smart men, because the highly educated men they want to pair up with mostly prefer women who are not trying to be 'equals' in that department. So smart / educated women have less available partners on the 'dating market'.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

You make it sound like Hell for the poor Devils,while Old Amsterdam says it's lots'a fun".

For men who care about other people's opinions it can be 'hard / difficult' to deal with women.

I'm an Einzelgänger, so women can try to 'tie me down' while I'm only interested in tying them up. If a woman feels like I should commit more, she's welcome to find someone else, but there's not a lot of people like me around.

 

[Ricky]

I'm not sure i believe all this women are only Chads idea. There aren't enough Chads to go around.. hell the States are full of overweight guys and women not Chads.

Once again look at real couples out there.. not many Chads and plenty of women settling for less than Chads.. and men settling too. Hell one of the most Chad like guys in our neighborhood has a seriously obese wife.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Hi Hamarabimbi,
"Chads get hit hard by women trying to tie them down. The pressure is relentless.".....You make it sound like Hell for the poor Devils,while Old Amsterdam says it's lots'a fun".

If you like constant pressure to make an important decision and guilt trips; maybe it is fun.

 

[Slowhandluke]

She's welcome to find someone else, but there's not a lot of people like me around.

as a woman, being young and attractive is easy. being an older attractive man is harder. they are as rare as a young and attractive woman who understands that her beauty is ephemeral and that other factors like intelligence, loyalty, etc are important. most women find this out too late.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

If you like constant pressure to make an important decision and guilt trips; maybe it is fun.

I don't feel that pressure over making important decisions.
And I already knew how to deal with guilt trips when I was eight years old and my mom tried to guilt trip me into making my bed.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Every relationship has a (power) dynamic. In many relationships, women hold that power by keeping a firm grip on their man's penis, but they're actually happier if they find a man who cannot be led by his trouser snake.


Probably. There is also a trend that highly educated women have more trouble getting smart men, because the highly educated men they want to pair up with mostly prefer women who are not trying to be 'equals' in that department. So smart / educated women have less available partners on the 'dating market'.

hence, nobody really has the upper hand playing games is detrimental to every one but the online dating apps

 

[Slowhandluke]

since there basically an equal distribution of women and men, if every chad has just an extra girl, that will wreck the ratio.

ultimately as people get older, most settle. however, not as many as before as it is a well known fact marriage rates are at its lowest in decades...

I'm not sure belive all this women are only Chads idea. There aren't enough Chads to go around.. hell the States are full of overweight guys and women not Chads.

Once again look at real couples out there.. not many Chads and plenty of women settling for less than Chads.. and men settling too. Hell one of the most Chad like guys in our neighborhood has a seriously obese wife.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

as a woman, being young and attractive is easy. being an older attractive man is harder. they are as rare as a young and attractive woman who understands that her beauty is ephemeral and that other factors like intelligence, loyalty, etc are important. most women find this out too late.

But. If you are that older attractive man, you have it made.

Young & attractive women are common.

 

[Slowhandluke]

But. If you are that older attractive man, you have it made.

Young & attractive women are common.

Especially if you are an older attractive man that is SINGLE. I notice that on average men do get "better" with age, but then there is a decline. At a certain point, a lot of successful attractive men get married and they leave the dating market. They do physically decline a bit because of kids, work, etc..; but its ok because they are usually in loving relationships with frumpy wives who themselves were once very hot ..

The men who are attractive at an older age that are left and have no major mental issue ARE EXCEEDINGLY RARE. For example, I was divorced due to no fault of my own (IMHO); I've been noticing there isn't a lot of people like me in the dating market. There maybe older men who are more attractive or wealthy, but most of these men are married IF NOT, they have mental issues ("player", commitment phobia, anti-social personality, etc.).

I guess it's weird. I noticed women are attracted to me, but then they are very surprised when they find out about my age. Its like they never expected to go out with someone so old. The way I see it is that they are very lucky to have found someone like me. In past generations where divorce isn't done at a whim, I would probably be taken.. already married and stayed married.

On the flip side, I do find it hard searching for women who are attractive AND have other qualities (intelligence, loyalty, emotional stability, etc.). Beautiful young women are very common.

 

[Ricky]

since there basically an equal distribution of women and men, if every chad has just an extra girl, that will wreck the ratio.

ultimately as people get older, most settle. however, not as many as before as it is a well known fact marriage rates are at its lowest in decades...

that is a good point.

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

Hi Bokanovsky,
"I'm a bit of a history buff. One of the few good things about life in the former communist countries was that men didn't really have to pursue women. If anything, women were more likely to pursue men. Why?"......You must admit,the horrific attrition levels on the Eastern front and Many troops taking Stalins order,Westwards!,a bit too literally and plugging on,well past Berlin,(Why some even made it to Canada),left an incredible gender imbalance in the Eastern block......Indeed in 1946 there were 74.7 Males to 100 Females in the USSR.....There was a Silver lining,of sorts,in that the next generation of Folk,were markedly more beautiful than their predecessors,many less attractive Females having been weeded out.(Smile).

This.

When the majority of your country's males are killed in war, it skews the sexual market place.

 

[Bingo-Player]

since there basically an equal distribution of women and men, if every chad has just an extra girl, that will wreck the ratio.

ultimately as people get older, most settle. however, not as many as before as it is a well known fact marriage rates are at its lowest in decades...

Its not men that are the problem theres plenty of men out there willing to date , make effort or are at least TRYING to be serious with women

I know because nearly every normal guy I speak to is more or less saying exactly the same thing and I don't know a single guy thats having a good time on dating apps atm

In fact no man I speak to has a good word to say about them

Modern women have ridiculous expectations or standards which have been born through social media platforms and swipe apps as they've had a decade of being told how amazing and beautiful and wonderful they are

And how they " deserve better "

These tropes are then reinforced by their own toxic social groups

So its a perpetuating cycle of men getting rejected / ghosted for the most petty reasons imaginable

Which of course is demoralising for men which then feeds into male thirst and desperation

It is a real mess out there

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

The average woman also gets no one. Because she sure as hell is not getting a "chad".

She just fvcks the chad and gets nexted...

But then she forever expects the chad...until she gets older...

Then she gets in a hurry and "settles," only to get bored and leave the "normal" guy with nothing.

You're familiar with this, yes?

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

Advice from the old lady:

Read what @Vending Machine Veteran wrote. That is why. Absorb it and let it resonate.

Life is not fair. Water is wet. Facts.

Also, women shouldn't be able to vote

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

The men who are attractive at an older age that are left and have no major mental issue ARE EXCEEDINGLY RARE. For example, I was divorced due to no fault of my own (IMHO); I've been noticing there isn't a lot of people like me in the dating market.

I was married with children when my wife 'couldn't be happy with me anymore' after I had been sick for a year. After the divorce, I recuperated and as a divorced father with two teenagers I thought I wouldn't be that interesting as single men, but I found that women adore and pursue me, knowing that I'm stable enough to have had a family (and got divorced through no fault of my own, like you). That, together with my IDGAF attitude works very well in the 'dating market'.
My ex-wife (good-looking and ten years younger) flounders, while I thrive. So there's still hope for divorced fathers, as long as they show they're still responsible (not deadbeat dads), but women also respect that I don't want more children (or another marriage).