Why you shouldn't wing with broke guys.

[Jesse Pinkman]

Over the years, I have winged with guys from various parts of the economic spectrum. Some guys are somewhat rich while others are poor. Given my experiences though, I have found that poor guys make for some of the most unreliable wings you can ever find. The only exception is if the guy is poor because he is in school or because he happens to have gotten laid off and is looking for another job.

What is unacceptable is winging with poor guys who have no vision of success in life and are either living with their parents or skating by in life. I talk more about why winging with broke guys is not only a waste of time but at times, also a dangerous thing to do.

Why you shouldn't wing with broke guys.

Someone has to say it.

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[BPH]

I'm broke and the only thing that makes me a bad wingman is that when I try to introduce a girl to a friend that likes her she'll often tell me she was interested in me rather than them.

I genuinely do feel bad sometimes because I'm trying to help and I imagine they view being with me as making their chances of success drop.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I've been doing all right without a wingman for four decades. Just go solo.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Will very rarely make a difference in a wingman scenario you just need someone to keep her friend entertained

Constantly hanging around with broke guys in day to day life is another story , its not good for your spirit

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Will very rarely make a difference in a wingman scenario you just need someone to keep her friend entertained

Why? I can entertain multiple women at the same time. Let them battle it out who ends up in my ropes.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Why? I can entertain multiple women at the same time. Let them battle it out who ends up in my ropes.

You can entertain multiple women but its tiring and if you aren't interested in any of them other than 1 or 2 it's a pointless activity

Better to pass the fodder off too a wingman

Women can become very very b1tchy when getting no attention and will ruin your game

 

[Macadellic]

The times I have been “poor” were the times I was f/cking 3 different girls in 24 hours for months on end.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

You can entertain multiple women but its tiring and if you aren't interested in any of them other than 1 or 2 it's a pointless activity

Probably a 'night game' thing then. I don't get tired dealing with multiple women at the same time, but I just play them off against each other. Their 'one-upwomanship' is often incredibly funny. And they wonder why I'm so amused.

Women can become very very b1tchy when getting no attention and will ruin your game

I like it when they hunger for attention, but I understand that I'm alone in that.

 

[Gamisch]

You can entertain multiple women but its tiring and if you aren't interested in any of them other than 1 or 2 it's a pointless activity

Better to pass the fodder off too a wingman

Women can become very very b1tchy when getting no attention and will ruin your game

Yup.

Jst saw this happening last week. Two girls come to the gym. Okay looking brunette and a blonde with an AZZ. So blondie does the squats while brunette does some weightlifting on the other side, like 50 meters apart.

Extremely ripped black dude talks to blondie and i swear ,brunette marches to them to interrupt the conversation. Apparently dude just made some small talk or even adviced her on something.

It just reminded me how some women will guard their female friends.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Fresh and Fit Myron said that if you can’t afford to spend at least 100 dollars on a date then you should not be dating. Of course that show appeals to an “underachiever” audience, so take away the exceptions you mentioned.

 

[Gamisch]

Fresh and Fit Myron said that if you can’t afford to spend at least 100 dollars on a date then you should not be dating. Of course that show appeals to an “underachiever” audience, so take away the exceptions you mentioned.

He is kinda right...

And to be clear, I don't even like Fagh & Fraud. But yeah, you should be able to soend a 100 and willing to spend like 30/50 bucks.

 

[Solomon]

The times I have been “poor” were the times I was f/cking 3 different girls in 24 hours for months on end.

Where they hot though? I'll be honest I remember in 2010 I was broke but I was dealing with a lot of girls but they were mid
I think a broke wingman is fun to hang out with if they bring good energy however It depends on the circumstances if they are a friend that you have known ok cool. If it's someone you met through a pua forum or just out and about NOPE

I have hung out with several "Good" broke guys but they end up being users, these weren't real friends just guys I met out, they take your friendship for weakness, I rather pass

 

[Macadellic]

Where they hot though? I'll be honest I remember in 2010 I was broke but I was dealing with a lot of girls but they were mid
I think a broke wingman is fun to hang out with if they bring good energy however It depends on the circumstances if they are a friend that you have known ok cool. If it's someone you met through a pua forum or just out and about NOPE

I have hung out with several "Good" broke guys but they end up being users, these weren't real friends just guys I met out, they take your friendship for weakness, I rather pass

Yes they were hot
• big natural titty Asian that was a bartender and c/cktail server
• blonde blue eyed banging body webcam girl
• light skin Latina petite with curves pornstar

I can list more but these were top 3

In regards to friendship.
I’m in still in contact with my group of friends from back home. It’s a friendship of 20+ years. Yes I didn’t have much money several years ago but we have many great memories.

 

[Knight of Roses]

I don't think the broke guys thing is valid.

I think the rule is do not wing with guys who have no game. I'd rather take a broke Chad as a wing than some successful beta who has little game.

I know a Doctor friend of mine, who has lots of money and works out alot, has large muscles and tattoos. From the exterior he is the perfect wing. But the guy has literally 0 game.

I have another friend who has an inconsistnent roofing job with baby momma drama who steals his money. He can't afford a beer at a bar sometimes so I always pick up the tab when we go out. But the guy is golden; with him at my side, we can take down 2-3 girl sets easy.

I'd always pick the second scenario.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

I never use a wingman. Just not necessary for me.

 

[SW15]

Fresh and Fit Myron said that if you can’t afford to spend at least 100 dollars on a date then you should not be dating.

That's the exact opposite advice that Tom Leykis used to give 20-25 years ago, when he used to promote an idea of not spending more than a maximum of $40 on a date. If we were to adjust Tom Leykis $40 rule from when he first proposed it into today's dollars, the maximum would be somewhere around $55-$60.

I think the rule is do not wing with guys who have no game. I'd rather take a broke Chad as a wing than some successful beta who has little game.

Yes, I agree with this. I would rather have @BPH as a wing than a lot of generic successful beta males. @BPH is the broke Chad with a notch count nearing 100.

I have found that poor guys make for some of the most unreliable wings you can ever find.

I don't want an unreliable wing. In general, there's a need to have a wing who is reliable. Both of you need to work well together.

I did like your point about broke guys like bartenders or promoters that can help you with access to females.

 

[Solomon]

I never use a wingman. Just not necessary for me.

I remember when I was in my 20s I use to go out with a wing all the time until I got on the site, I actually got better results without a wing or friends because I was free to approach whom I wish and I had less competition as all my wingman were better looking than me ha ha

That's the exact opposite advice that Tom Leykis used to give 20-25 years ago, when he used to promote an idea of not spending more than a maximum of $40 on a date. If we were to adjust Tom Leykis $40 rule from when he first proposed it into today's dollars, the maximum would be somewhere around $55-$60.

I first heard Tom Say this in 2003, as you can see from the chart below it's actually $68.16 this very moment. I won't be shocked if this increases within 7-12 months due to inflation, the dollar crashing, and possible cyber attacks/wars this would be $100+

 

[CornbreadFed]

That's the exact opposite advice that Tom Leykis used to give 20-25 years ago, when he used to promote an idea of not spending more than a maximum of $40 on a date. If we were to adjust Tom Leykis $40 rule from when he first proposed it into today's dollars, the maximum would be somewhere around $55-$60.

I don’t think he’s promoting guys to spend $100 every date, but if you aren’t comfortable spending $100 then you need to reconsider your priorities in life.

 

[SW15]

I don’t think he’s promoting guys to spend $100 every date, but if you aren’t comfortable spending $100 then you need to reconsider your priorities in life.

I see the point on that and it makes sense. Only middle class + guys could spend $100+ on a date on occasion.