Would you ever settle with a woman you rate 5 out of 10 or lower?

[sangheilios]

My main squeeze has a killer and I mean KILLER body by my standards, rivals most 20 something’s, and she’s in her 50’s. Like her body to me is a 9, she has a tiny chest and it’s mostly muscle because she’s so lean and firm and jacked for a chick with a tiny 6. Her face is pretty much a 6 because she’s mature.

I have conventionally prettier options, but this chicks body is just too good, and she’s down down down. We have killer chemistry and go at it harder than teenagers. Hell I just look at her and I get turned on (in my 50’s). I love going to the beach and pool with her because she’s got a body that 99% of the time is the hottest around and we’re quite matched in that department.

People stare at us and we’re old by most people’s standards, groups of young girls come over to talk to us and to compliment us.

It’s all in what matters to you. Physique and fitness matter to me and being the best and having the best at any age. We’re both still competitive.

Do what makes you happy, fnck the haters.

Right

 

[RickTheToad]

 

[jamesfromhouston]

Funny you brought this up. I've been thinking about this conundrum recently as well.

Personally I aim for 8s and above. Generally, I've ****ed some 7s too just because they had the right vibes. And 7s are not bad.

But this year, I've encountered (and ****ed) a few 6s that have confused me. Four of them come to mind and this is how I acted:

1) A 6 who is a Yoga teacher, didn't look the best but was incredibly sexual. Ended up hooking up with her twice. Each time I was confused because she didn't look the best but had such a slutty attitude during sex. Her mannerisms kind of remind of that viral Chick-Fil-A girl. The crazy sex type. Rolls her eyes and all. Funny thing is every time I was done with the deed (and also before hooking up), I always get confused about whether she is my type just because she is a 6. A few times, I even felt ashamed just because she wasn't very attractive. I no longer see her anymore. The confusion got the best of me.

2) A 6.5 who I met on a business trip. Very subservient and wild in bed. She has a great personality too. We had sex mainly because I was bored and I enjoyed her company to a degree. She has always been down to please in bed whenever we hooked up. But after hooking up, she became very keen on wanting something serious with me and I guess I could not really settle for her. She's very genuine as a person (really just an all around good person) but because of her looks (6.5) I do not find myself attracted to her or wanting anything serious with her. So I guess, I cannot settle for someone who isn't attractive enough to me.

3) Another one, I don't know how to rate. Her face is sort of like a 6.5. But she has the most amazing pair of tits I've ever seen. The biggest pair, I've ever seen to date. She isn't fat too which is incredible. That amazing hour glass proportion. Unfortunately, her personality is very boring. I find myself bored hanging out with her. We have not hooked up yet because the confusion (of how she has a hot body but a boring personality and mediocre facial features) holds me back. But I feel at some point I might just go ahead and **** this one.

4) Like the 3) and 1) combined. This one is another confusion too. She has a face of a 6. But a body of a 10. But like 3) she has amazing tits and amazing hip to waist proportion. And like 1) she is wild as hell. Always sending me nudes and telling me how bad she wants to **** me. The crazy thing about this one is she has a boyfriend too. I don't know the guy personally (we don't talk about him much) but it is just wild to me that she is still so horny. We have not yet hooked up but we are planning to meet up to **** next week. I have been on the fence for the longest time because I don't find her face attractive but at the same time, I find her attitude and body very attractive. I've decided to go ahead and see what happens next week.

Considering everything, I don't think I could ever settle for a girl who is 5 out of 10. Sex is different though. While I am also not willing to **** a girl who is not attractive, the situation becomes a bit confusing when she has a killer body or a vibe that I like. But 6 is the lowest I can go. If the girl was a 5 in anyway, I don't think I would go ahead with the lay. It becomes even harder for me.

 

[Gamisch]

This **** doesn't make any sense to me.

It's overwhelmingly the norm to see couples be roughly on par with one another. A male 5 will date a woman that is somewhere around his level or maybe slightly lower, etc. The reason why so many people are unhappy with the dating market is because a lot of individuals are holding off for something well above them, though I feel this is way more common of an issue with women than men. An example would be a fat girl thinking she is entitled to some guy that is 6'+ and fit whilst she routinely ignores/rejects men that are around her level.

The difference between the life of a hb5 and a man who is a 7 is vast. Especially ( sexual) attention That's why a dude who is a 7 won't ever feel entitled to an hb9.

No. It's been my experience that 5s and 6s are much more delusional and disagreeable and are just as narcissistic if not moreso than hotter girls. They're just unpleasant to be around. They know you're more attractive than them and they hate it, so they resort to constant shvt tests and other nonsense to bring you down. I know all women do this already, but it seems ramped up with mid girls.

The worst part about mid girls is 99% of them have an endless supply of orbiters. Hot girls don't necessarily have as many men hitting them up (unless they are highly active on social media) because men are pvssies and only shoot for the bottom of the barrel to get easy pickings, most of these men don't think they have a shot with hot women so they don't even bother.

They are nor more delusional, you probably are willing to take more shyte from a hotter woman.

To allude to my previous response above this one; i do agree that if you're a 7 and you date an hb5 who treats like shyte, you'll mentally go down the rankings.

Hard to be confident around 8,s when the 5,s treat you like you're less than them.

Still it's a part of beinh a modern male, lets be honest. You have ro be able to determine your own smv because women dgaf about your feelings.

 

[Learning Curve]

She could have everything else going for her, but if she doesnt Pass the boner test, nobody cares

Yeap. This.

 

[Gamisch]

The funniest thing is that most men slept with mostly fives but they felt like they were sevens.

I categories women in 1 - 4 which is retarded, in a wheelchair, butt ugly, ect, really old, really fat and ugly.

Then we have the 5- 6 category. Something is off but she is feckable. If she just...(lost some weight, laugs differently, had better teeth, dressed better , wasn't as masculine, was 10 years younger, ect ect

7 is a category on his own. Cute, no major flaws but also not spectacular.

8 -9 are the bombshells. If not tied down they will be head cases.

Don't ever underestimate how easily a woman can either rise or fall from category to category. The gym, clothes and make up can make a lotta difference.

Most p00sies feel the same when the lights off.

 

[bario]

Thanks all so far!

What got me in asking this is because my cousin met a girl, who in my opinion is below 5 face wise. But I think his main motivation is because she's a US citizen and he wants to move to the US lol.

For me, it has to be at least 7 looks wise no matter what.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

The difference between the life of a hb5 and a man who is a 7 is vast. Especially ( sexual) attention That's why a dude who is a 7 won't ever feel entitled to an hb9.



They are nor more delusional, you probably are willing to take more shyte from a hotter woman.

To allude to my previous response above this one; i do agree that if you're a 7 and you date an hb5 who treats like shyte, you'll mentally go down the rankings.

Hard to be confident around 8,s when the 5,s treat you like you're less than them.

Still it's a part of beinh a modern male, lets be honest. You have ro be able to determine your own smv because women dgaf about your feelings.

Idk man, almost every mid girl I've ever dated was judgmental, entitled, and gave me lots of shvt. There have been a handful of ONS/FWBs that were "mid" and they were pretty easy to deal with but since I wasn't pursuing a relationship with them, maybe it had a different dynamic. My grander point was that guys make the assumption that dating down will be easier; that's simply not the case, women of all types will have narcissism, delusion, entitlement, shvt testing, etc.

In my experience hotter women just don't do these things. Once you're "in" they aren't too unreasonable.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I found that very attractive girls tended to be also mostly the sweetest, probably because they don't feel the competition of other (less attractive) women. They also tended to be less jealous when other women gave me attention.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

When you look at 1-10 ratings in percentiles. A 5 is in the top 50th percentile. So she’s 1/50 etc if you want to simplify. 5 five is average everything, in a healthy population. But we never are only talking about looks, or are we? In comes the theory of tangible intangibles, and modifies the rating in one way or another. Add to that personal preference and the numbering system fail’s catastrophically. Some guys on the board admit to like big girls, for him she could be a 9 and for others a 4 because she’s heavy.

I truly don’t understand why so many men are so focused on what other men think of the women that they are sleeping with. Seriously if another guy thinks your girlfriend is hot do you enjoy sleeping with her more because of it?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I truly don’t understand why so many men are so focused on what other men think of the women that they are sleeping with. Seriously if another guy thinks your girlfriend is hot do you enjoy sleeping with her more because of it?

I'm sure that is exactly why some men need a trophy girlfriend / wife; to assuage their insecurity on whether they are truly successful in the view of other men.

 

[Gamisch]

I'm sure that is exactly why some men need a trophy girlfriend / wife; to assuage their insecurity on whether they are truly successful in the view of other men.

But isn't that the blood vessel throughout this entire thread?

I agree with @Pierce Manhammer. Perhaps we logically use the school scale type of system where 5 isn't enough. So the thread might read as " would you date a girl that just ain't good enough, by a small margin ?".

Or does it say; would you date a bang average woman?

 

[Gamisch]

Idk man, almost every mid girl I've ever dated was judgmental, entitled, and gave me lots of shvt. There have been a handful of ONS/FWBs that were "mid" and they were pretty easy to deal with but since I wasn't pursuing a relationship with them, maybe it had a different dynamic. My grander point was that guys make the assumption that dating down will be easier; that's simply not the case, women of all types will have narcissism, delusion, entitlement, shvt testing, etc.

In my experience hotter women just don't do these things. Once you're "in" they aren't too unreasonable.

Often times good looks are closely related to a good lifestyle, good food, good selfcare routines ect. So there's something to be said about the worst attitude people/women might have who are not above average.

On the other hand; when you somehow show a woman she is not your priority, she'll sooner or later turn that desire towards you into anger. Been there many, many times. She'll indeed shytetest the shyte out of you in order to get clearity. But again, that might, I say might, be something that you've create yourself..

I disagree with the statement that hotter women are more easygoing. They are batshyte as well, especially long term you'll notice that.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I think the whole rating is bogus, as it's highly subjective. I love flexible impish pixie women, but the flawless vacuous mannequin look of many 'beautiful' women leave my cold.

I prefer the walking disasters most men would stay away from.

 

[Dash Riprock]

I don't understand how a girl can have a hot body but be below average looking to you lol. Did she have really weird facial features, missing teeth, etc.? Most women that put on some makeup can literally go up several points, was she completely fresh faced?

Hence the term "Butter Face." Hot body with a well below average face, makeup or not.

 

[jamesfromhouston]

Thought I'd check in with an update as well as a brief FR and some thoughts.

I finally hooked up with that 6 with the 10 body that I was talking about in my last reply. Hesitated about pulling the trigger for a long time but went ahead because I was horny.

This girl was super sexual. A super freak. Her body was amazing with the most incredible pair of tits. Sex was not really enjoyable though. Her face honestly really bothered me. Realized it was more like a 5. It was just really unattractive to me. During sex I tried my best to avoid looking at her face and tried to just focus on looking at her body.

Also something I found very interesting was that compared to girls that are 8 to 10, this 6 acted really aggressive, disinterested, entitled and annoyingly feisty. This isnt the first time I've noticed this. From my experience, sometimes average to below average looking girls will act more aggressively compared to hotter girls, maybe because it's a mechanism they have developed to protect their self esteem and fear of rejection.

The hook up taught me that I really need the whole package though. Butter face will not do it for me even with an incredible physique. Oddly, I feel bad and ashamed of myself after hooking up with her. Like having really bad junk food. Maybe if I was truly in a long dry spell, I might enjoy it a bit more. But iwhen I have plates to compare to, damn, I really can't.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

The hook up taught me that I really need the whole package though. Butter face will not do it for me even with an incredible physique. Oddly, I feel bad and ashamed of myself after hooking up with her. Like having really bad junk food. Maybe if I was truly in a long dry spell, I might enjoy it a bit more. But iwhen I have plates to compare to, damn, I really can't.

It just means you have standards. I've never had sex with someone I wasn't attracted to. I'd rather masturbate than lower my standards for attraction. You lowered your standards and now you feel like you allowed your 'need for sex' manipulate you into lowering your standards and you feel ashamed that you couldn't control that. You didn't know that you'd feel this way, otherwise you wouldn't have done that.
So you learned something new about yourself. Not bad, it's something many men will never understand. And that's why they end up in unsatisfying relationships, because they prefer lowering their standards to being alone.

 

[jamesfromhouston]

It just means you have standards. I've never had sex with someone I wasn't attracted to. I'd rather masturbate than lower my standards for attraction. You lowered your standards and now you feel like you allowed your 'need for sex' manipulate you into lowering your standards and you feel ashamed that you couldn't control that. You didn't know that you'd feel this way, otherwise you wouldn't have done that.
So you learned something new about yourself. Not bad, it's something many men will never understand. And that's why they end up in unsatisfying relationships, because they prefer lowering their standards to being alone.

You got this spot on. I think that is the source of the shame or regret that I feel now. Anyway I thought this was a funny little personal anecdote for our brothers on this thread who might be in this predicament.

 

[Captain Rizz]

Settle? For marrying her? Of course not. But maybe I'll call her over if I am bored and horny