Chaos in LTR: Why a serene LTR will end?

Giovanni SouthSide

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LTRs will almost always end.

In my 12,000+ posts on this forum, I believe the idea that I am most known for is my idea about the shelf life of relationships.

I believe the majority of relationships have a shelf life of goodness of 5 years. It doesn't matter how long a relationship lasts, its only the first 5 years that are the good times. 5 years of goodness assumes at least an average frame. Betas with weaker than average frames won't have a shelf life of goodness that lasts even 5 years, even if a beta gets his relationship to last more than 5 years. There are plenty of beta males in relationships that have lasted more than 5 years.

Frame decay is also a real phenomenon. There are men who start off with decent frames but eventually morph into wimpy beta males.
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Almost all couples in which the man treated the woman well, because the man is healthy and not psychopathic, or even beta, have broken up due to lack of "desire" or because "the love is over".
Because the man gets comfortable and stops improving.

Alot of men think once they get the girlfriend or wife the game is over, that they can put their feet up and relax as they always a warm place to put it at night. Men stop doing the things that attracted the woman to him in the first place and she starts to wonder "was it all an act to get sex?" and starts to think she can do better.

Yet women aren't innocent in this either, because once they allow the man to get comfortable in the relationship, women do the "pullback". They start acting differently, talking back, having conditions for sex, etc. They want to see "is he going to change his behavior because he can't get sex from any other woman, or is he going to act the same way and not let it bother him?" If the man starts acting differently from what he did in the first place, then she knows she's got a Beta Sucker and will eventually crush him,

It's also why LTR don't make sense in 2024. Back when, if a woman disrespected or left or divorced a man, she would be shamed to no end by society. Now, its been changed to "happy wife, happy life."

It's tough out there.
 

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If the man starts acting differently from what he did in the first place, then she knows she's got a Beta Sucker and will eventually crush him,
In this scenario, if the men change, for improving, and start to see other women, its positive.
It's also why LTR don't make sense in 2024. Back when, if a woman disrespected or left or divorced a man, she would be shamed to no end by society. Now, its been changed to "happy wife, happy life."
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Attatchment styles also play a heavy role in behaviour and reactions to conflict and even non-verbal communication. Not to speak for all my gender but yeah we tend to either flock to what is safe/predictable (emotion wise)... If we have unresolved issues; we seek chaos. No Chaos= Boredom.
 

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Attatchment styles also play a heavy role in behaviour and reactions to conflict and even non-verbal communication. Not to speak for all my gender but yeah we tend to either flock to what is safe/predictable (emotion wise)... If we have unresolved issues; we seek chaos. No Chaos= Boredom.
Can boredom bring us to "greater things" or just divorce?
What does someone with fear of abadonment Attatchment style would fit in an LTR? (both women and men)
 

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Can boredom bring us to "greater things" or just divorce?
Here in '24, much of our boredom stems from too much time sitting in front of a screen. Which brings us a side of hemorrhoids to go along with that divorce, once our spouse becomes exasperated by us spending 100 hours per week playing the latest installment of Red Dead, but 0 on cunnilingus
 

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us spending 100 hours per week playing the latest installment of Red Dead, but 0 on cunnilingus
Just take a 'cunnilingus' break after every twenty minutes of gaming. Keeps your lady on edge, panting in the corner 'when are you going take another break, lover?'.
 
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