Hamurabimbi
Master Don Juan
Never really noticed one way or another. We’ll be out of town SB Sunday and will likely go to some sports or hotel bar to watch. I’ll observe.
I know you wrote this in 2022 so you might feel different about this now, but why? Seems a bit strange to me. I'd feel far more uncomfortable or bored if it's a sausage fest. The presence of women, even if they're taken, brings feminine energy to the party, which makes it far more enjoyable.It felt extremely uncomfortable to be around all couples when at that exact moment I wasn't in a couple.
One year later, Super Bowl 49 happened in February 2015. It was a couples dominated event. A few friends had gotten into more serious relationship between February 2014 and February 2015 and one long term coupled guy who didn't attend in 2014 attended in 2015. It felt extremely uncomfortable to be around all couples when at that exact moment I wasn't in a couple. There were some subsequent Super Bowl parties that had similar vibes and either I was unattached or my girlfriend at the time didn't want to go. I stopped bothering to attend Super Bowl parties in my social circle because of them being all couples events.
I wrote the bolded statement that you quoted in 2022 about a Super Bowl party in 2015 that had a distinctly different feel than a Super Bowl party in 2014 with similar male attendees. The male attendees from 2014 weren't bringing their girlfriends but by 2015 they were.I know you wrote this in 2022 so you might feel different about this now, but why? Seems a bit strange to me.
At that moment in 2015, I felt left behind not being in an established, unmarried couple while all my friends were in that moment. This was before the marriages and pregnancies that I've mentioned in this group in "Pregnancy Announcements Everywhere" thread. It could have been said that I had feelings of some insecurity at that time. The unmarried, exclusive, yet not majorly committed life phase is a good phase. My friends were there at that moment in 2015 and I wasn't.Could it have been some sort of insecurity based on the assumption that people who are in relationships are higher up in some sort of social hierarchy, and being there as a single guy made you feel like you weren't as cool as everyone else there? I know some people might feel this way, but I always felt like people in monogamous relationships were actually the ones missing out since my life usually involved more sex, and with more people.
All the males in that group bringing their girlfriends to that party in 2015 turned that party into a relationship litmus test.I'd feel far more uncomfortable or bored if it's a sausage fest. The presence of women, even if they're taken, brings feminine energy to the party, which makes it far more enjoyable.
There is somewhat of a hierarchy. with singleness being lower than couples. I was at a church, by myself, at a holiday season. A woman came by and gave me a basket of cookies. She said; ‘We’re giving these out to the single men.’. I said; “‘Single’ as in Not Married’ or ‘Single’ as in No Relationship’? She replied; ‘Not married.’. I took the cookies. As that was my situation.I know you wrote this in 2022 so you might feel different about this now, but why? Seems a bit strange to me. I'd feel far more uncomfortable or bored if it's a sausage fest. The presence of women, even if they're taken, brings feminine energy to the party, which makes it far more enjoyable.
Could it have been some sort of insecurity based on the assumption that people who are in relationships are higher up in some sort of social hierarchy, and being there as a single guy made you feel like you weren't as cool as everyone else there? I know some people might feel this way, but I always felt like people in monogamous relationships were actually the ones missing out since my life usually involved more sex, and with more people.
Yes, the typical social circle has a hierarchy. Single without being in an established relationship is lower on the hierarchy than single and being in an established relationship.There is somewhat of a hierarchy. with singleness being lower than couples.
Yes, there are big differences between the two.“‘Single’ as in Not Married’ or ‘Single’ as in No Relationship’?
I have never ‘lived’ with someone I wasn’t married to. Though. We do spend a huge amount of time together.Yes, the typical social circle has a hierarchy. Single without being in an established relationship is lower on the hierarchy than single and being in an established relationship.
Yes, there are big differences between the two.
Single (legally unmarried) and living with a girlfriend is also different from single (legally unmarried), having a girlfriend, and not living with her in terms of the lifestyles lived.
This is what I'm talking about. I dislike thinking about this hierarchy (probably because I see myself at the top of it in some ways and idealistically want to think that everyone else is at the top with me so that I won't subconsciously feel guilty about the privilege), but frankly speaking, even while single, I see myself as being in a better position than men in monogamous relationships and marriages precisely because I know I'm getting more action than they are.If a single male is getting more sex with more people than his friends in various stages of committed relationships, it would be a good thing. That is much less common. Most single males not in a relationship are incels/borderline incels. The typical single male needs a relationship in order to get laid.
This realization has only progressed. To be honest, it shouldn’t be an issue unless these couples are treating you poorly. You’re the last guy that hasn’t gotten married, so what. Most of the couples parties I’ve gone to the women are in the other room talking about anything but the game. The guys are usually watching the game and one/two of the wives is preparing the food. People are interacting but nobody is there trying to make a move on some else’s wife or girl friend.At that moment in 2015, I felt left behind not being in an established, unmarried couple while all my friends were in that moment. This was before the marriages and pregnancies that I've mentioned in this group in "Pregnancy Announcements Everywhere" thread. It could have been said that I had feelings of some insecurity at that time. The unmarried, exclusive, yet not majorly committed life phase is a good phase. My friends were there at that moment in 2015 and I wasn't.
It's still uncomfortable to be in a sea of couples at that event if you are not attached/not getting laid or only marginally attached and getting laid. The more one is getting laid in life, the less one would be bothered by the type of party I describe. Either way, it is still uncomfortable. The only effect is on the degree of discomfort.
I need more unmarried and preferably unattached/marginally attached male friends right now.you‘ll have to expand your friend group and find some more dudes to hang with that don’t have hovering wives.
Right now, I am. Two of my married friends with young children have told me that my life is better than theirs. They are not happy with their lives centered around infants/toddlers. I am getting more pussie they are getting. I have more freedom than they have. Freedom and sex are good.I see myself as being in a better position than men in monogamous relationships and marriages precisely because I know I'm getting more action than they are.
Seduction is a big passion of mine. I have learned how to seduce women and have a lifetime notch count higher than most men's. I have practiced seduction and have some level of ability in it. I have more abundance now than many. I am even getting recognition now from my married friends whose wives have gone frigid post childbirth.MOST single men not in a relationship may be AFCs, incels, or whatever you want to call it, but are you? I would expect you to be in a higher class of men who learned how to seduce women and achieved some level of abundance in that regard. I've seen you around here, meaning that you probably have some passion about the subject of seduction, meaning that you've probably practiced it.
Most people know. By the way someone looks & acts (and reputation, if applicable) whether the Single guy is slaying or failing. No guy who is successful needs to boast. Now. It may come up in conversation.This is what I'm talking about. I dislike thinking about this hierarchy (probably because I see myself at the top of it in some ways and idealistically want to think that everyone else is at the top with me so that I won't subconsciously feel guilty about the privilege), but frankly speaking, even while single, I see myself as being in a better position than men in monogamous relationships and marriages precisely because I know I'm getting more action than they are.
MOST single men not in a relationship may be AFCs, incels, or whatever you want to call it, but are you? I would expect you to be in a higher class of men who learned how to seduce women and achieved some level of abundance in that regard. I've seen you around here, meaning that you probably have some passion about the subject of seduction, meaning that you've probably practiced it.
I've never even heard of something like that.
You have now. A lot of it depends on the individual social circles. It seems like @CornbreadFed and I have experienced events that are heavily couples. I illustrated through my stories about how Super Bowl parties over the years in one social cohort transformed from being a bunch of single males getting together to it turning into an absolute couples fest and a relationship status litmus test.@SW15[/USER] everything is a couple's event after the age of 28 .
That's good. None of the Super Bowl parties I've been to had a mix of characters like that.All the one's I've been to have had any and every type from married to single to dating to any other situation.
Do these people actually like football or is it a social event?You have now. A lot of it depends on the individual social circles. It seems like @CornbreadFed and I have experienced events that are heavily couples. I illustrated through my stories about how Super Bowl parties over the years in one social cohort transformed from being a bunch of single males getting together to it turning into an absolute couples fest and a relationship status litmus test.
That's good. None of the Super Bowl parties I've been to had a mix of characters like that.
With the people that I've mentioned from this social cohort, the answer is that it depends.Do these people actually like football or is it a social event?
Depends on the Super Bowl party (in public, private residence) and the social group. In most cases, I think you're correct that it wouldn't be a prime seduction opportunity.as a guy I dont think it works... because the primary focus is something else (Similar to a movie or church) AND it look weird if you're specifically not into football
I can see woman having an easier time with it possibly
yeah.. girl INTo football I could possibly see work, but then you would think they love the ALPHA alpha dudes.Depends on the Super Bowl party (in public, private residence) and the social group. In most cases, I think you're correct that it wouldn't be a prime seduction opportunity.
I know a couple in my social circle that formed as a result of watching sports in a bar (not the Super Bowl) when both were fans of the same team. It can happen, but realize that exception proves the rule. In exception cases, realize that the woman is likely a more masculine type woman. In the case in my social circle, the woman is physically attractive but was pushing 30 when they met and the man was/is a beta male.
I've barely interacted with the two parts of this couple, but they have had some substantial interactions with some of my friends and other acquaintances.