video: "Redpill" - The Business of Exploiting Lonely men

[Dr.Suave]

@Gamisch @NoBiscuits Wtf bros. Please put each other on Ignore.

When someone throws a punch at you irl you defend yourself. When someone throws a punch on you on SoSuave you say nothing back and use the Report button.

 

[Clockwerk50]

I thought you spamming the forum with new topics every 5minutes was

So exactly what do you think is nonsense about the redpill?

Here's what the redpill stands for:

1. Looks, money, status matter.
2. Women are hypergamous.
3. Men must bring value to the table if they want the most valuable girls.
4. Men and women are not equal, they are different.
5. Women aren't all that special, the "one" doesn't exist.
6. Women are emotional, manipulative, attention seekers, like validation, etc.
7. She's not yours, its just your turn.

You think all of that is nonsense huh? lol

I don't see how an experienced man would ever discount those items. An inexperienced man certainly could.

This is correct. Even though the red pill's information is accurate the execution is horrible. It just creates bitter men that hate society and think everyone is out to get them; this ideology insist you must puff and beat your chest everywhere you go. The STFU, DEEring, and other acronyms can be destructive to relationships. Not only that but women are coming out ways to battle the red pill (i.e Barbie movie).

Anyways, I am no expert in social dynamics but the Tate character or the mexican one are just toxic. There are better ways to inform everyone to keep leveling up, how the dating market works (talk to as much women until you find what you like and what you dislike), and be as happy as you can be. Even Seneca said "gold tests with fire, woman with gold, man with woman". This is information is not new.

 

[The Duke]

This is correct. Even though the red pill's information is accurate the execution is horrible. It just creates bitter men that hate society and think everyone is out to get them; this ideology insist you must puff and beat your chest everywhere you go. The STFU, DEEring, and other acronyms can be destructive to relationships. Not only that but women are coming out ways to battle the red pill (i.e Barbie movie).

Anyways, I am no expert in social dynamics but the Tate character or the mexican one are just toxic. There are better ways to inform everyone to keep leveling up, how the dating market works (talk to as much women until you find what you like and what you dislike), and be as happy as you can be. Even Seneca said "gold tests with fire, woman with gold, man with woman". This is information is not new.

Its always up to the individual to apply whatever belief system that works for you. Calibrate appropriately. I don't pay much attention to all of the guru's trying to make a dollar.

I got upset when I first started to digest the redpill, but then I realized getting upset didn't help my chances with women. So I adjusted my attitude and moved forward and had a ton of success with women. To each their own.

 

[Gamisch]

@Gamisch @NoBiscuits Wtf bros. Please put each other on Ignore.

When someone throws a punch at you irl you defend yourself. When someone throws a punch on you on SoSuave you say nothing back and use the Report button.

Oke bro

 

[BadBoy89]

Narrator of video:

“YouTube videos monetize on men’s weaknesses”

Ah, buddy. You monetized a video to tell men with weaknesses that YouTube is making money creating videos for men with weaknesses.

Reminds me of lyrics in a Warren G song;

“Now who’s the real victim, can you answer that? The person that’s jacking or the fool getting jacked?”

 

[Bokanovsky]

Bezos, Evan Spiegel, Chris Hemsworth, basically all those good looking, rich guys married/in relationships with divorced, older women with kids ... that would be like an NBA team made up of obese, 5'2'' guys.

The rules seem to be different for tech millionaires/billionaires. It seems that "being in IT" is such a pvssy repellent that even a massive amount of wealth can hardly compensate for. You look at billionaires who are NOT in tech and they nearly always have good looking women around them. Tech billionaires, on the other hand, are dating women that even your average incel would not touch. It's weird.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Narrator of video:

“YouTube videos monetize on men’s weaknesses”

Ah, buddy. You monetized a video to tell men with weaknesses that YouTube is making money creating videos for men with weaknesses.

Reminds me of lyrics in a Warren G song;

“Now who’s the real victim, can you answer that? The person that’s jacking or the fool getting jacked?”

They literally went mode one on their audience

 

[Divorced w 3]

Lazy man’s stoicism, with a cult component for click bait. ‘These three guys are doing it, plus the guys from the dial in, so I must be the odd one out since I am not’. Plus, I saw a video the other day of Rich Cooper literally asking people to like his video. ‘Guys. 10,000 of you in the live stream (yeah, ok), click the like button (authoritatively)’. What happened to letting life come on its own terms?

‘What works for me is not for thee’

 

[MatureDJ]

Perhaps we should call game "jestermaxxing" when it's done by sub-8s and non-chads/chadlites,etc....

The Blackpill is more associated with truth that game is BS and looks triumph amost everything else, and if it's not looks then it's transactional and non-chad/chadlite Red-pillers use non-sexual transactionals and circus act to attract women to compensate for not having the looks. If you don't have the looks then you are compensating in some way to get into some sub-par beta-buxx placeholder relationship until the real guy comes along that she really wants just so you end up can be an "Acceptable Incel" and join MGTOW.

Most comedians are not Chad-tier. Andrew Dice Clay is one who is that comes to mind. The reason that sub-Chad men become comedians is that the Chad-tier ones don't have to, leaving most sub-Chads.





You've never seen this guy in a comedy:

 

[MatureDJ]

That is not what I meant to say. My resonation with gen-Z is not because I think they are right, it is because I'm an incel like many of them are and any limited experience I've had in the past with women have always ended traumatically bad.

This is termed a protocel.

Protocel

A protocel is someone who has experienced inceldom prior to the incelosphere age. The incelosphere age began more or less in the 1990s, therefore anyone experiencing...

incels.wiki

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Ok. Here's a rundown.
It'll be a long post, so I'm only saying it once.

Due to the inflation of female standards, the superficiality of online dating, the easy access women have to top 20% men, and the standardization of the internet being the de facto dating area many young men have been left out of the dating pool altogether. Today, average 5-6/10 men are struggling to find someone. The stats show somewhere around 20-30% of young men have little to no female company.

What red pill advises is what most young men on the scene are already doing, so it no longer offers a competitive edge to be eg. physically fit. Red pill says go to the gym, be confident, maintain frame, etc. and many average to below average men will do this but the end results only gave them marginal improvements in the dating scene. This crowd of left out men began doubting the the dogma of red pill's theory and debunking its delusions just like how the red pill originally debunked blue pill's delusions after those men's romantic lives failed due to the blue pill. The black pill is meant as a supplement to make an analysis of the sexual marketplace complete.

It's possible to generalize the three pills like this:
Blue Pill : Free Will ("There's someone for everyone, so just be yourself")
Red Pill : Soft Determinalism ("Being yourself isn't good enough. You need to raise your value")
Black Pill : Hard Determinalism ("Raising your value only marginally increases chances, as most value is determined by genetics")

Blue pill is for naturally attractive people who never needed to use game to find or keep a woman.
Red pill is for above average to average men who needed guidance after blue pilled platitudes did not work out for them.
And black pill is for average to below average men who need honest realism as to why red pill advice wasn't successful.

Black pill mostly inherits conclusions about female nature from red pill (eg. hypergamy). What they differ on is what determines SMV.

For black pill, SMV is mostly determined by factors such as voice, skin quality, facial bone structure, hair color, penis size, eye shape, height, etc. Your base score (eg. 6/10) is determined by genetics, and you can add +- 1.5 points with some effort ("looksmaxing") and red pill game, But you can realistically only go from a 5/10 to a 6-6.5/10. In contrast, red pill theory states it's possible for a 5/10 to become a 9/10 with enough game or wealth, which many young men have found to be delusional in today's sexual marketplace. Black pill also argues that the inflation of female standards over time creates a situation where 5/10 men and below are treated equally as 2/10 men ("sub5"). Some argue that this has recently inflated to 7/10 and below ("sub7").

Many topics in black pill theory also deal with what to do if you're a man with poor genetics. Evaluating your chances of ever finding a (lasting) partner through hard data can lead to a lot of bitterness, resentment, and depression. This is where the defeatist reputation of the black pill comes from. This guy will make it. This guy will struggle but stands a chance. This guy is unfortunately toast from the start. And so the men who decide they've been excluded from candidacy will opt to save time and energy by closing up shop in the sexual marketplace and looking for something else to do with themselves.
Bad attitudes and bitterness also come from the contention with red pill. How the blue pill mocked the red pill as psychopathic and disgusting before eventually accepting it is exactly how the red pill mocks the black pill today.

Some debunked red pill talking points:

"Stop with dating apps and go outside."
Being irl no longer makes a difference because every woman still has instant access to high SMV men through her phone, and they compare the appraoching men to what they can get in a more comfortable setting with less pressure. You are still stacked against top tier Tinder profiles even outside of Tinder.

"Women hit the wall when they turn 30"
They did not. They actually stayed single and found new sources of validation online instead of settling for beta males (onlyfans, try on haul videos, asmr, etc.).

"The unsuccessful men are just fat neckbeard soy boys"
Not quite. It's standard today for average zoomer men on the dating scene to be physically fit, have good photos, dress well, have side income, know a bit of game, etc. Red pill's competitive advantage is mostly gone.

"Most women want strong masculine men with large muscles, not soft feminine boys"
Nope. The pretty boys have the highest SMV of anyone right now and zoomer women melt when they see them. This also brings on a lot of bitter feeligns from red pill chads because all their hard work at the gym and gaining wealth is blown out by a lazy zoomer with good genetics.
The female equivalent is similar to this: Female chad and female pretty boy. Who's more approachable?

Black Pill is really the recognition that looks matter. Naturally attractive people’ can be Black pilled easily. All it takes is hanging out with less attractive guys and observing how women (and people in general) treat them. I’d wager Attractive and unattractive people are blackpilled. Unless they have some strong delusions.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

It's OVER for JesterCels.

Jestermaxx

Jestermaxx or jestermaxxing is a term used in the incel community, most commonly to denote a man acting in an entertaining, amusing, histrionic or dramatic manner...

incels.wiki

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Perhaps we should call game "jestermaxxing" when it's done by sub-8s and non-chads/chadlites,etc....

The Blackpill is more associated with truth that game is BS and looks triumph amost everything else, and if it's not looks then it's transactional and non-chad/chadlite Red-pillers use non-sexual transactionals and circus act to attract women to compensate for not having the looks. If you don't have the looks then you are compensating in some way to get into some sub-par beta-buxx placeholder relationship until the real guy comes along that she really wants just so you end up can be an "Acceptable Incel" and join MGTOW.

Though these women with the sub-Chads are usually unattractive. And can’t get a Chad.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

To me, being "redpill" simply means you've reach a state of truly understanding the nature of all things, not just women, but all things. You understand the way the world works, the way people think and behave, etc... And you stop getting bitter/angry about things that's simply out of your control. You don't come to the 1st date hoping it to be like a Hollywood movie, or when a girl stops wanting you, you simply let her be instead of chasing after her like that classic scene in a chick-flick. That's redpill to me.

That is the correct mindset.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I'd wanna add to this that a big difference between red and blackpilled is that "being redpill" can also mean you are actually prepared and /or open to the way the game works, e.g you hit the gym,work on your status (LMS) despite being single because you KNOW sooner or later it will benefit you when dealing with women.

Blackpill would rather say: "if I don't get any results from hitting the gym it ain't worth it".

Redpill means both the entrance and exit were calculated upfront. The c0ck carousel can either be your biggest advantage or your biggest downfall.

The biggest pitfall of the blackpill is the self fulfilling perpetual negativity:" i am not good enough thus i dont do, because I dont do ill never be good enough " .

Perfect metaphor when you translate it to women would be: 2 women on a dryspell: hot hb8 woman keeps doing what she does to be hot because she KNOWS she'll meet someone sooner or later(redpill). Hb3 woman blames "life" and lets herself go. (Blackpill).

Blackpill cannot be reached without beinh 100% aware of the redpill .

Don’t assume blackpillers are all incels.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

My incel homie reasons like this. He refuses to level up financially, physically ect. He says women dont like him due to his looks. But then again, he also refuses to look maxxx. I always tell him that "big dude"is hitting the gym EVERY day. Has three jobs, puts him self in places where women are. Takes risks. Studies game. You see? It starts to add up huh? I can name 10/20/100 more features that might(MIGHT) make a man more attractive. But you know what's the most important thing? KNOWING you'll meet women, knowing you're a man who will add value to her life one way or another( aka CARRY yourself in a certain way). When I am feeling good iam sorry but i feel like a KING. At this point I (unfortunately) had to distance myself from him, because his negative energy impacts me as well. The chain is as strong as the weakest link...

My hapa-cel friend told me once:’You get girls because you go to the gym.’. I responded; ‘Well. Go to the gym then.’. He quickly changed the subject.

 

[corrector]

And can’t get a Chad.

You mean get a Chad to commit.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

You mean get a Chad to commit.

Or even want to get with her at all.