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What are the best ones?
That’s not libido. Libido is walking around and being turned on. Cialis simply makes sure the gear works. It’s not a desire causing drug.Cialis if you have regular sex, and viagra if you don't.
This is related to your gym/fitness activities IMO and getting proper sleep and nutrition.That’s not libido. Libido is walking around and being turned on. Cialis simply makes sure the gear works. It’s not a desire causing drug.
Yes which are back underway and heavily related to my massive frame loss thread (which btw is pending update!)This is related to your gym/fitness activities IMO and getting proper sleep and nutrition.
What the actual fvck bro. Thanks but I am not reading that.I once worked on a digital cleanup project where I uncovered roughly 30,000 companies / brands of testosterone, diet pill, penis enlargement pill, preworkout, etc. It wasn't even the goal of the project, just something I had to take care of during it on the side.
I saw how they advertised, their domain registry, their company registration, their spam networks, etc. The corruption is more sophisiticated than you think. I have a science background and can see through fancy words, and I couldn't make heads or tails on what was real or not most of the time.
I avoided the entire nootropics market forever after this project. It's easier to just write off the entire industry as a whole.
"But I'm smart enough to tell the difference between a scam and something real."
They have specific marketing strategies for this exact customer.
"But this one has an official certification."
It could be fake. Not just the printing on the bottle, but the actual bureau that does the verification. FDA doesn't do supplements. FDA approval is also not related to efficacy of drugs. They only check for whether the claim of what's in the product matches its contents to an acceptable threshold and contains no banned chemicals. Also, you have to check witht he FDA themselves since many will just say they're FDA approved. If they get sued for fake credentials, they declare bankruptcy for that specific brand and keep going.
"But this one looks legitimate. It has a clean website and everything."
Yeah, most of them do because they know how skeptical people are. They probably have been mentioned in big newspapers and popular journals on health as well. They probably have an influencer network too. It's no longer just some guy in India looking for credit card details. This is a HUGE industry now.
"But a credible vendor sells them"
Ok. How do you know the vendor and the different products it sells on it aren't all the same company? Yes, these companies write their own reviews on "unbiased" reddit and instagram spaces. How they do it nowadays is the vendor will write many reviews for different products on a forum saying they purchased it from that specific vendor. Over time, the community trusts the vendor itself because they've seen so many posts from people who bought there. That's how marketting in the 21st century is done.
"But this one cites the research into their claim, look it's from a big university."
A research paper doesn't exist in a vacuum. Other people will respond to it and it could be outdated. It's not as hard to get "the science" to approve. See POM as an example. Some academic institutions themselves are a scam that prey on grad students in "publish or perish" programs, but they're indistinguishable from more presitigious sources of information for anyone who just used google to research the claims. Most people, even those who present the science, don't even read the source anyway. Half the time I read a paper that got mainstream attention the results will be sensationalized or the actual content of study is either insigificant or says even the direct opposite of what is being claimed by the presenter. Showing that you have research is often just a formality. "Here, I have the science, see? Here's a paper from University of Toronto. It's a verified source." Meanwhile, in the source itself, the actual chemical they sold for mental alterness was used as one of four test chemicals on a group of lab mice to conclude that such chemical may not significantly effect tumor growth in renal cancer and also showed hippocampus activity on an MRI (where the mental alterness claim came from), or something. Most people who open the file will just look at it and think "erm, yeah, this looks like a science to me" and move on.
"But I trust his judgement, he doesn't advertise products he himself hasn't tried before."
A lot of approval from influencers also comes down to a company looking legitimate instead of the product actually working. Discerning between real or not in this industry today requires near autistic levels of work for each product, and there are tens of thousands of brands to investigate. You're about to go down a multi-year rabbit hole of learning about supplements once you try your first one. A lot of that time, energy, and money will just be wasted. The guy you trust may mean well, but he could also be lost in this rabbit hole just like you are.
"But if you filter out the garbage from what's real then you'll be alright. Just don't be stupid"
How? How do you filter out the garbage except by blind trust and looks of legitimacy? What hard tests do you do on the product when you get it? Do you have easy access to microscopes, centrifuges, and a spice rack of different acids? I did when I was deep diving into this scam of an industry. I found some legitimate looking products weren't even what they said on the bottle, let alone whether that chemical actually did what they claimed.
I've seen the beast and how he hunts.
It was a joke! Thank you sincerely. I am going to read it. Simply joking with you.Then either don't ask the fvcking question or learn to read faster.
I took time to write out, share warnings, and provide hard to find knowledge on one of the scammiest industries on the planet. The one you're about to dive head first into. I read entire books in one setting and you can't handle a < 1,000 word forum post that was even formatted for quick glancing? Embarrassing.
Not exactly. Physiology influences your libido. If you get rock hard at the mere sight of a hot girl, you will naturally be more horny.That’s not libido. Libido is walking around and being turned on. Cialis simply makes sure the gear works. It’s not a desire causing drug.
OP is asking for supplements specifically. It's a bit presumptive to assume he's not already maximizing things like sleep, diet, etc.
The best supplements for raising libido are panax ginseng, KSM-66 ashwaganda, yohimbine, tyrosine, cistanche. Fadogia and tongkat ali should as well since they're proven to raise T.
Then there's also some supplements/nootropics that are more recreational. Hands down, the best way to raise libido is phenibut, but i only advise taking 1-2g every other week at most. Only take it if you have a girl you've already banged come over to fvck.
We can also get into the RC territory but I haven't ventured here. I've heard melanotan II raises libido substantially.
Not exactly. Physiology influences your libido. If you get rock hard at the mere sight of a hot girl, you will naturally be more horny.
I would agree with this. I go through spurts, it’s probably the way I am resting and my fitness I would agree. Exercise and sleep help a ton. Sometimes I can bang all day. Sometimes like lately I am not as fired up.Not really because if he was he would have no need for supplements.
Normal aging. You aren’t 18 anymore.I would agree with this. I go through spurts, it’s probably the way I am resting and my fitness I would agree. Exercise and sleep help a ton. Sometimes I can bang all day. Sometimes like lately I am not as fired up.
NoooooooNormal aging. You aren’t 18 anymore.
The truth, man. We have to accept it.Nooooooo