By 2030, 45% of American women will be single & childless

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If you don’t think the government is manipulating the dating market you’re sadly mistaken.
Yes, I’m aware. I just don’t believe there is a deep state doing so. Our government is a matriarchy. And states get federal funding from divorce! Hence the legal system is so hot to bury men!
 

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And this comment about AI is exactly what I have been talking about for a while now. Society and the media cares about women's rights and their happiness but very seldom puts much thought into male happiness. The simple reality is that unless there is something incredibly wrong or off with a woman, it is almost a guarantee that she can get some sort of attention, validation, sex and love from at least one man who would be willing to provide it. However, what we are starting to see is that increasingly more and more men are being sent to the rejection pile who often are completely left out of the market. There have ALWAYS been men that didn't do well with the opposite sex, the difference compared to now is today normal tier men are being placed in this bracket.

There are massive ramifications that this will have on society that I believe many do not understand or completely underestimate. I made a thread about this very topic here a while ago, but I believe it leads to men that feel there is little incentive to put a lot of effort in because they feel there is no reason to be invested. When you have large hordes of men that are single and have no prospects that is very dangerous on so many levels. This whole AI girlfriend stuff may sound like a joke or something but it may be needed in order to quell these issues that we are seeing.

I personally am looking forward to what my life is bringing me, I've done incredibly well financially and will have a great life. However, I've also come to accept that there is a very low chance of me ever being able to find a decent woman who I could enter into a long term relationship with. It's not that these women don't necessarily exist, they do, it's the fact that landing one is the problem due to the difficulties of the modern dating culture. I also don't even consider myself an "average" tier man either, I'm well over 6' tall and in very good shape, muscular, etc. I try not to feel sorry for myself, it's a very bad mindset to have, but I feel nothing but sadness for so many young men out there that are going to experience what I'm discussing here and especially because they probably won't understand it like I do.
We have talked about the rise of AI dating and girlfriends extensively in other threads, you're already seeing evidence of this now in 2023
also With the rise of Onlyfans models. The tech will continue to get better. DO you really see young men trying to go out to meet women in the future when going to a nightclub is $200 just to walk in the door? or watch porn on their 16K VR headset? it's truly depressing but modern men aren't going to compete for women as in generations past, I also see poly relationships increasing with men sharing 1 woman knowingly and being cool with it just for the access of sex
 

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We have talked about the rise of AI dating and girlfriends extensively in other threads, you're already seeing evidence of this now in 2023
also With the rise of Onlyfans models. The tech will continue to get better. DO you really see young men trying to go out to meet women in the future when going to a nightclub is $200 just to walk in the door? or watch porn on their 16K VR headset? it's truly depressing but modern men aren't going to compete for women as in generations past, I also see poly relationships increasing with men sharing 1 woman knowingly and being cool with it just for the access of sex
There's a movie with Syllvester Stallone, Wesley Snipes and Sandra Bullock called "Demolition Man".....not sure if you have seen it. It's a futuristic, utopian society that is obsessed with cleanliness, health, etc. There is one seen where they go to have "sex" and Stallone gets excited, but she comes back with a pair of VR headsets lol.

This is a long time ago, but I used to use facebook and I had a relative on there that had a person on her friend list that had this really strange profile picture that caught my attention, which was 2 young men in a selfie type photo with an unattractive woman their age lol. Anyway, I clicked on it and it listed the polyamorous relationship as their status lol.

And I agree, I think prevalence of online porn was the first step but it definitely took off with onlyfans. I don't know what that costs, but it's like they'll pay $20 and the woman gives them attention by doing something like blowing a kiss or some **** lol.
 

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[ when going to a nightclub is $200 just to walk in the door?
You cannot be serious, are you?

Last time I went clubbing was Vegas (3 years ago) with my gf at the time and promoters would stop us on the way back from the pool and give us free vip access, almost every time we were there - big venues like Light and Hakkasan.
 

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You cannot be serious, are you?
I'm speaking in future tense, to go to some nightclubs already costs $100 heck in Chicago(right now) there is a nightclub you can't get in unless you spending get a table(10K minium) or bring 6 hot girls with you
 

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This is not good. Having an excess of women—and 45% is a huge excess—of unwed, often childless, women is an immeasurable burden on society. And we’re currently living with this burden because of the joke marriage has become as an institution.
No, it's not really that marriage is a joke - it's that woman are just too picky. They will give it up without the ring for Chad - even going raw and without birth control - to try and tie him down (and if that fails, he will be part of her life financially for 2 decades, and more importantly forever linked to him genetically). They don't even care to respond to the Normie's OLD invitation to go out for dinner.
 

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The idea that the family unit is collapsing is an old idea. Former US Vice President Dan Quayle was complaining about it in 1992 and he was far from a thought leader on that.
He's the highest ranking person I've ever shaken hands with. :)


So what? The alternative for a lot of men who only have options with 30+ women is dating single moms. Then they cuck themselves. Many childless men will date a childless woman because becoming a cuck to a single mom is a worse choice for them.
To me, it would be a non-stop, every-day, in-your-face mogging that I am only good enough to help support a woman's kid, not good enough to create one. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: If I'm going to do that, I want it to be as a marketplace interaction, where it doesn't matter one hoot what her situation is.
 

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I'm speaking in future tense, to go to some nightclubs already costs $100 heck in Chicago(right now) there is a nightclub you can't get in unless you spending get a table(10K minium) or bring 6 hot girls with you
I've never been into the club scene but I live in AZ and I've heard a lot of stories. I used to chill with a guy that worked at a bank that told me a story about one very particular place that was the big hot spot at the time, there's much more competition since post lockdown. Anyway, he mentioned that a lot of tables you'd have a bunch of guys that would literally down thousands of dollars for bottle service lol. He also mentioned there being not only the women that worked there in skimpy outfits but like a selection of women that would always be there on the busy nights and spend time with these particular groups of men, almost sounded like they were escorts of some sort lol.
 

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There's a movie with Syllvester Stallone, Wesley Snipes and Sandra Bullock called "Demolition Man".....not sure if you have seen it. It's a futuristic, utopian society that is obsessed with cleanliness, health, etc. There is one seen where they go to have "sex" and Stallone gets excited, but she comes back with a pair of VR headsets lol.

This is a long time ago, but I used to use facebook and I had a relative on there that had a person on her friend list that had this really strange profile picture that caught my attention, which was 2 young men in a selfie type photo with an unattractive woman their age lol. Anyway, I clicked on it and it listed the polyamorous relationship as their status lol.

And I agree, I think prevalence of online porn was the first step but it definitely took off with onlyfans. I don't know what that costs, but it's like they'll pay $20 and the woman gives them attention by doing something like blowing a kiss or some **** lol.
Demolition Man is movie ahead of it's time, a lot of the stuff that's in the movie is actually happening right now, for some it's a cult classic IMO it's one of Wesley Snipes best performances as an actor, great movie!
 

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Demolition Man is movie ahead of it's time, a lot of the stuff that's in the movie is actually happening right now, for some it's a cult classic IMO it's one of Wesley Snipes best performances as an actor, great movie!
There's a theory that I've discussed with some, and the idea is that Hollywood movies prepare us for what is to come down the road. A really good example is the movie I Robot, that movie came out in I think 2004. Now, look at that particular Robot model they had in the film and look at it compared to Ameca, the humanoid robot that was revealed to the public not that long ago lol. Literally the exact same look.
 

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There's a theory that I've discussed with some, and the idea is that Hollywood movies prepare us for what is to come down the road. A really good example is the movie I Robot, that movie came out in I think 2004. Now, look at that particular Robot model they had in the film and look at it compared to Ameca, the humanoid robot that was revealed to the public not that long ago lol. Literally the exact same look.
It's called predictive programming, another example is the movie Leave The World Behind. Something else nobody has mentioned is the Passport Bro movement, I have seen in social media as Reddit attacking the community already, they do not like dudes looking for tradwifes outside the West, West women are so triggered about it.
 

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It's called predictive programming, another example is the movie Leave The World Behind. Something else nobody has mentioned is the Passport Bro movement, I have seen in social media as Reddit attacking the community, they do not like dudes looking for tradwifes outside the West, West women are so triggered about it.
Yeah, I've seen that and also woman chastising men going for much younger women. I have mixed feelings about the passport bro stuff. I think there is a high degree of truth to their reasonings for looking outside the west. However, the issue I have is the premise of just attracting gold diggers or those just looking to get into America for instance. There was a poster a while ago that messaged me asking if this is something I'd consider as an option, as I was mentioning I was having a hard time in the dating market, and I voiced these concerns to him. You see this a lot in Europe also, with a lot of men marrying women from Thailand, the Phillipines and eastern European countries.
 

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It's called predictive programming, another example is the movie Leave The World Behind. Something else nobody has mentioned is the Passport Bro movement, I have seen in social media as Reddit attacking the community already, they do not like dudes looking for tradwifes outside the West, West women are so triggered about it.
Yup the Elites have this rule where they have to tell you what they do before they are about to do it
It makes them feel like they are absolved of their sins but actually, it's a form of witchcraft to get the masses to agree with their evil schemes.
The public is getting privy to it now hence all the occultism and "Cabal" talk in the movie was exposed
The elite really want to usher in a power outage and war
They are insanse and lust after power, true psychos
 

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Yup the Elites have this rule where they have to tell you what they do before they are about to do it
It makes them feel like they are absolved of their sins but actually, it's a form of witchcraft to get the masses to agree with their evil schemes.
The public is getting privy to it now hence all the occultism and "Cabal" talk in the movie was exposed
The elite really want to usher in a power outage and war
They are insanse and lust after power, true psychos
Exactly, I also read about the karma way they do these things. Deep stuff.
 

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Yeah, I've seen that and also woman chastising men going for much younger women. I have mixed feelings about the passport bro stuff. I think there is a high degree of truth to their reasonings for looking outside the west. However, the issue I have is the premise of just attracting gold diggers or those just looking to get into America for instance. There was a poster a while ago that messaged me asking if this is something I'd consider as an option, as I was mentioning I was having a hard time in the dating market, and I voiced these concerns to him. You see this a lot in Europe also, with a lot of men marrying women from Thailand, the Phillipines and eastern European countries.
I have read old threads here advocating this as well, in any country gold diggers or gaijin hunters as Japanese call them is still an issue.
 

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No, it's not really that marriage is a joke
Of course marriage is not a joke. I am married. I meant the institution, its treatment, views on it, expectations from it, and how people are set up for it, have become jokes.

Despite some on here favoring promiscuity and scoffing at monogamy, monogamous marriage was one of a number of elements that brought about Western civilization because it’s necessary for high-investment parenting and it gives ordinary men (and yes, most are ordinary) a stake in the future. What we have now is quasi-polygamy.
 

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There's a theory that I've discussed with some, and the idea is that Hollywood movies prepare us for what is to come down the road. A really good example is the movie I Robot, that movie came out in I think 2004. Now, look at that particular Robot model they had in the film and look at it compared to Ameca, the humanoid robot that was revealed to the public not that long ago lol. Literally the exact same look.
I wonder that as robot chicks - i.e., for regular work or sex work - get more & more lifelike, will the femynists demand that they don't look hot? It's interesting that arguably the most famous anonymous (i.e., not depicting a real person) human-form statue in the world, the Statue of Liberty, was made to not be conventionally attractive, so as to not arouse folks to think of her in a way other than the abstract emotion of liberty. Of course, they will try to outlaw sex-robots ...
 

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I wonder that as robot chicks - i.e., for regular work or sex work - get more & more lifelike, will the femynists demand that they don't look hot? It's interesting that arguably the most famous anonymous (i.e., not depicting a real person) human-form statue in the world, the Statue of Liberty, was made to not be conventionally attractive, so as to not arouse folks to think of her in a way other than the abstract emotion of liberty. Of course, they will try to outlaw sex-robots ...
There is a Russian tv series about androids where it’s becoming commonplace to have a human like android helping in the home. As I recall, they have sexual capabilities as well, and the story that develops isn’t half bad. It’s called “Better than Us” and it’s on Netflix in the US.
 
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