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Watching this reaffirmed something I was thinking... For men who don't have much relationship experience, and are self conscious about being questioned/disqualified due to it. One could re-frame it as "sure, I don't have much relationship experience like you do, but I also don't have the baggage that you have."
 

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Watching this reaffirmed something I was thinking... For men who don't have much relationship experience, and are self conscious about being questioned/disqualified due to it. One could re-frame it as "sure, I don't have much relationship experience like you do, but I also don't have the baggage that you have."
“I prefer quality over quantity” yeah there are a million ways to reframe
 

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God her attitude inside of 5 seconds, and she’s a fatass, fack her teeth has she ever heard of Invisalign?
 

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I date women in their 40s and 50s. As I've related, I have encountered many of these damaged chicks. The chick in that video didn't realize that the dude was in it recreationally only. Most women do not realize this when it's done to them; all you have to do is be a man of few words; they make up all kinds of things in their minds.

I think most of them avoid the DTR discussion (define the relationship) because they don't want to give up their dopamine source. Women delude themselves A LOT. Women also do not understand where they stand in the SMP because they have dudes like the guy who was railing her recreationally, telling her she was hot and beautiful while nutting in her repeatedly.

He agreed to "go steady" because she probably insisted and was a decent piece of ass at the time. Meanwhile, he was working with a couple of hotter/younger chicks and finally got one of them to open her legs for him, then he dumped her - at least he had the balls to do it in person.

She's not a great example of an attractive woman in her 50s - some can be as hot as a 35-year-old if they've taken care of themselves, and those are the ones I seek. Unfortunately, recent divorcees or widows often have been run through a few times by guys who were not honest with them about their intentions. This damages them severely and can make them nearly insufferable. I take solace in being very clear that I'm dating and "when it happens, I'll know it." I clarify when I'm not ready to move into another level of relationship with a woman.

I began dating what I consider to be a super hot triathlete, who is, unfortunately, starting to show some borderline personality disorder traits - specifically histrionics. She started using the L-word within a month with me; I mentioned how sweet she was but that I'm not rushing into anything and that love takes time & consistent behavior that develops into deep respect before it occurs; there is no set time, so "let's enjoy what we do have." She was sad, but took it in stride after a good facking.

I genuinely despise subterfuge; it destroys women, and a lot of guys out there are actively destroying the weaker sex through their thirst and deceptiveness. We all agree that women are often forgetful and cannot see the forest for the trees, yet we treat them like shiite and expect them to recover independently.

In time she most likely will do the same to guys, banging one while hypergamously looking to upgrade.

I'm all for catch and release, but don't remove the hook so that you tear out their lower jaw when doing it.
 
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The 52 year old linked in the middle of that video was not good looking. Her figure isn't close to being good. I would pass on that.

There would be some 55-60 year old men interested. Her kids are 18+ and not living at home. Some old guys would like that.

When older couples date and both have adult (18+) children, there are still issues. The adult children often don't like the new romantic partner, even if their parent is a widow.
 

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Most women do not realize this when it's done to them; all you have to do is be a man of few words; they make up all kinds of things in their minds.
I mentioned how sweet she was but that I'm not rushing into anything and that love takes time & consistent behavior that develops into deep respect before it occurs
Even when you're direct and upfront about having multiple lovers, they will feel there's more going on between you and her and she's special because you also listen to her and give her your attention. :rolleyes:
 

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Histrionic behavior is when someone is really over-the-top with their emotions and constantly tries to be the center of attention. People acting this way often seem really dramatic and may act overly flirty or playful, even when it's not appropriate. They tend to have really intense but shallow feelings and might change their emotions super quickly.

This kind of behavior is a key part of something called Histrionic Personality Disorder, but not everyone who acts like this has the disorder. Folks who show these traits can sometimes have a tough time in relationships because they always need lots of attention and approval, which can be a lot for others to handle. It's good to be understanding with people who behave this way and to remember that professional help is out there if needed.

Unfortunately, many women nowadays display this behavior.
 

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This kind of behavior is a key part of something called Histrionic Personality Disorder, but not everyone who acts like this has the disorder. Folks who show these traits can sometimes have a tough time in relationships because they always need lots of attention and approval, which can be a lot for others to handle.
Having the personality traits is way more common than having the disorder. Many tend to be undiagnosed though, they will often just state that they are 'passionate', not merely dramatic.*
There's a lot of them in the artist scene (where drama is often encouraged), and not giving them the attention they crave so dearly is magnetic to them. They tend to gravitate to the capable grounded types because they are often mentally chaotic and unable to get rid of their anxieties unless they can relax in the hug of the bear. And that the bear can tear them to shreds only makes him more attractive.

* I have a dramatic one now, but I'm thoroughly inundated by Drama Queens so whenever she acts up I just grin and tell her that she has to work on her drama because currently she's just a Drama Apprentice. She can't even hold her frame when I mock her dramatic outbursts, but she 'loves' me for being able to 'handle her'. To which I mostly reply that I'm used to handling Drama Queens, so handling an Apprentice is not that hard... :cool:
 

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That is an interesting post, it rings very true. good post Major General.
 

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My mother was a malignant Drama Queen, I learned at eight years old how to control her drama with sarcasm. I became more sophisticated later on; nowadays I react almost jaded to drama, which helps when I counsel PTSD women.

Best thing to do when a woman 'explodes' in drama is to observe her like a hamster on a wheel, wait until she pauses for breath and comment on how she can make her act more dramatic. "Try some big arm movements next time."

They really hate it when they cannot manipulate you emotionally.
 

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My mother was a malignant Drama Queen, I learned at eight years old how to control her drama with sarcasm. I became more sophisticated later, nowadays I react almost jaded to drama, which helps a lot when I counsel PTSD women.
I do have white knight tendencies - aka Captain Save-a-hoe, I combat those proclivities in myself as best I can. I believe that the world would be a better place if there were more love, and I mean love, not necessarily Love. I have many times gone out of my way to help out damsels in distress - it's how I bagged my first lingerie model when I was 22, but I digress.
 

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I do have white knight tendencies - aka Captain Save-a-hoe, I combat those proclivities in myself as best I can.
I've had some altercations with 'white knights' who disagree with how I handle women. Women, on the other hand, often respect me for not bending to their will, no matter how much they try to manipulate me. My door is open. They can come in. They can leave.
 

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I've had some altercations with 'white knights' who disagree with how I handle women.
Oh, I'd never confront a guy over a chick unless he disrespected ME; that's a whole other story.
 

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Oh, I'd never confront a guy over a chick unless he disrespected ME; that's a whole other story.
Yes, I know you're not a 'white knight', you're a man of honour.
 

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"There's no fool like an old fool".
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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