What to focus on in the coming year?

[Dr.Suave]

Great post Mike, as usual.

You are going to go to stupid Disney movies when you would rather be watching and doing something else.

I actually kind of enjoyed most Disney movies a few years ago. But they got a little more and more woke with time and now its just too woke.

It used to be that a Disney movie being bad was the exception rather than the rule (at least to me). Now its the other way around.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

Hire an escort with gfe experience. Try an escort that has your same religion (ie get an east indian escort that speaks hindi). I would never use these type of escorts as I worried I get hindu things on me. They also have lots of brothels in India, a country that is full of your religion so many of them are probably hindus too. Also I would be curious of any specific reference in your bagdivad gita that even says women like that are bad to deal with. I know its wrong in my religion because its part of the devil kingdom. However, let us know about why you have a mental block here.

There's nothing specific about prostitution in the Bhagavad Gita, but it's understood that sleeping with women like that is a distraction to spiritual progress. It's not just religious objections keeping me from seeing escorts. I really don't like the idea of having sex with someone who's had so many guys inside her already, and the act of paying for sex in itself would make me feel sad as it would be a symbol of my failures meeting women. Furthermore I wouldn't be able to shake the feeling that the girl is only seeing me because I paid her. I'd rather sleep with someone I really care about, not some escort who's faking everything, putting up with being around me because I paid her. Then there's also the fact that prostitution isn't legal where I live. For all those reasons I'm extremely reluctant to go that route. Doing that would actually be a huge source of shame for me.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

How does a man or woman who lives in a 3rd world shytehole copes with reality? Or a child without parents? Or a person in a wheelchair?

You "just" do it.

You dont read what i wrote. You obviously CANNOT imagine what its like to live with a woman. If you did, you'd rather have the POM and stay alone.


You say you're single like it's an embarrassment, I say i am single as an accomplishment.

Your best bet is two 1. Resign from "the game you've never played " , and 2. Feck hookers /escorts /be a sugar daddy /pay for play.

eventually we will all pay a hefty price for p00sy anyway.

So in other words, it's over? I'm not willing to bang escorts or get myself into a sugar daddy type scenario.

 

[corrector]

There's nothing specific about prostitution in the Bhagavad Gita, but it's understood that sleeping with women like that is a distraction to spiritual progress. It's not just religious objections keeping me from seeing escorts. I really don't like the idea of having sex with someone who's had so many guys inside her already, and the act of paying for sex in itself would make me feel sad as it would be a symbol of my failures meeting women. Furthermore I wouldn't be able to shake the feeling that the girl is only seeing me because I paid her. I'd rather sleep with someone I really care about, not some escort who's faking everything, putting up with being around me because I paid her. Then there's also the fact that prostitution isn't legal where I live. For all those reasons I'm extremely reluctant to go that route. Doing that would actually be a huge source of shame for me.

That is it? Just a distraction, lol! Everything is a distraction. Would you put that on the same level as watching a TV show or even posting on here? My religion is more serious (ie portal to hell, risking damnation, escorts having demons themselves etc...). I am scared of them more for religious reasons, which some of practical reasons you mentioned may also contribute to spiritual reasons. (Ie she sleeps with lots of guys, therefore she has demons from them which can pass on to you and possess you, etc...).
Officially I have no practical issues, just religious and spiritual ones as all sex outside marriage is wrong, paid or not.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

That is it? Just a distraction, lol! Everything is a distraction. Would you put that on the same level as watching a TV show or even posting on here? My religion is more serious (ie portal to hell, risking damnation, escorts having demons themselves etc...). I am scared of them more for religious reasons, which some of practical reasons you mentioned may also contribute to spiritual reasons. (Ie she sleeps with lots of guys, therefore she has demons from them which can pass on to you and possess you, etc...).
Officially I have no practical issues, just religious and spiritual ones as all sex outside marriage is wrong, paid or not.

In Hinduism it's not really what can Hindus do or what can't Hindus do, it's more what would or wouldn't Hindus do. So with seeing escorts it's not what a sincere Hindu would do. By distraction I mean something that pulls you back down into materialism and thus keeps you from achieving the liberation from the cycle or birth and death. In many ways, living in the suffering of the material world and having to undergo countless births and deaths is its own hell. Also in Hinduism there are indeed sins that do lead to actual hellish consequences, but we see hell as not being eternal. You might spend millions of years there if you really do some bad sin, but eventually you finish your time.

 

[corrector]

In Hinduism it's not really what can Hindus do or what can't Hindus do, it's more what would or wouldn't Hindus do. So with seeing escorts it's not what a sincere Hindu would do. By distraction I mean something that pulls you back down into materialism and thus keeps you from achieving the liberation from the cycle or birth and death. In many ways, living in the suffering of the material world and having to undergo countless births and deaths is its own hell. Also in Hinduism there are indeed sins that do lead to actual hellish consequences, but we see hell as not being eternal. You might spend millions of years there if you really do some bad sin, but eventually you finish your time.

Any casual sex is also materialism. There is no true differentiation between unpaid or paid sex for carnal indulgence outside of marriage and honourable intent to procreate and share life together, right?

 

[BergischerLöwe]

I think I'm starting to come to the conclusion that hoeflation is to blame for my increasingly diminishing returns on dating apps. With this considered, what are some ways in which I can at least counteract the hoeflation phenomenon to a degree?

 

[corrector]

Dating apps are materialism.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

Dating apps are materialism.

I understand that, but in my current situation giving up dating apps means giving up trying to meet women entirely

 

[Gamisch]

I understand that, but in my current situation giving up dating apps means giving up trying to meet women entirely

That sounds like a homeless man who says he must keep getting lottery tickets " because it's his only chance to become a millionaire ".

All the while everyone tells him to go for tte slow but steady progress instead of chasing instant success.

You gotta prepare to have a 100% celibate 2024. Unless you're willing to pay for play. Otherwise it willl be just you, your right hand and some stimulating content...

If i was you I'd accepted this and set my mind on other, bigger fish.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I think I'm starting to come to the conclusion that hoeflation is to blame for my increasingly diminishing returns on dating apps. With this considered, what are some ways in which I can at least counteract the hoeflation phenomenon to a degree?

I don’t know if your expectations are set properly for OLD. If I swipe right on 100 (maybe come across that many in 3 months) women I find boner worthy might get 2 matches. Of those two maybe once I get 5 matches I can convert 1.

For my age I’m probably a 7.5-8 - I take very good care of my appearance and max all physical possibilities. The cool thing is that as I age less and less men are in my league.

Everything worth doing takes work.

 

[Gamisch]

So in other words, it's over? I'm not willing to bang escorts or get myself into a sugar daddy type scenario.

Its over mon ami.

You will turn 30 and yet you haven't find reasons how and to force your way into some panties I mean, you won't get p00sy if your life depends upon it...just facts.

If i put a gun on yiur head and tell you that you can only survive if you get p00sy that same day what would you do??

,please answer this: why don't you get other goals? Do you even know what's it like to be with a woman who terrorizes you on a daily basis? Be careful what you wish for..

having no game is where most men actually fail. Its not just getting and keeping the woman, the journey is most important. No game = a gruesome, messed up journey. You (and all.of us) are one fecked up woman away from a severe heartbreak/ depression/ losing faith in relationships for ever. Just one...

Its like you are depressed because you want to drive a luxury car...while you can RENT one, but no no no no..you want a NEW one, with the NEW CAR SMELL unscathed ,cleanup to date ect....even if you risk being depressed for the rest if your life..while you DON'T EVEN KNOW if you'd like such a car on a daily base...and you have zero clue how the car functions..

 

[corrector]

I understand that, but in my current situation giving up dating apps means giving up trying to meet women entirely

Hence, less materialism, which you said is your goal.

 

[corrector]

I don’t know if your expectations are set properly for OLD. If I swipe right on 100 (maybe come across that many in 3 months) women I find boner worthy might get 2 matches. Of those two maybe once I get 5 matches I can convert 1.

For my age I’m probably a 7.5-8 - I take very good care of my appearance and max all physical possibilities. The cool thing is that as I age less and less men are in my league.

Everything worth doing takes work.

Yeah, you have to come to the rescue before this thread becomes an escort thread, lol You worried all struggle with women threads morph into a discussion about escorts.

OP does not want to work or pay. He wants to be a fapper like me. Which is cool. You dont catch demons or diseases from fapping.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

That sounds like a homeless man who says he must keep getting lottery tickets " because it's his only chance to become a millionaire ".

All the while everyone tells him to go for tte slow but steady progress instead of chasing instant success.

You gotta prepare to have a 100% celibate 2024. Unless you're willing to pay for play. Otherwise it willl be just you, your right hand and some stimulating content...

If i was you I'd accepted this and set my mind on other, bigger fish.

I already fully expect not to meet any women next year. Can't keep my hopes up

 

[Gamisch]

You don't wanna take a few steps back in order to make more steps forward.

You are only focused on getting women, completely disregarding the nuances of the game. If you would step away to see the bigger picture you'd realize that the game( the way men and women interact ) has many nuances to it.

Every man must know that "the next woman" is around the corner, and she'll probably be crazy with tendencies that will throw you off at times.

Just do you, BUT you dont even wanna " do you". You want a woman to come and save you. You wanta a creature whose looking for a savior to save you. Thats why you are where you are nowadays. Your perception is wrong

 

[corrector]

Every man must know that "the next woman" is around the corner,

Yeah, and she may even be knocking on the window of your car.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

You don't wanna take a few steps back in order to make more steps forward.

You are only focused on getting women, completely disregarding the nuances of the game. If you would step away to see the bigger picture you'd realize that the game( the way men and women interact ) has many nuances to it.

Every man must know that "the next woman" is around the corner, and she'll probably be crazy with tendencies that will throw you off at times.

Just do you, BUT you dont even wanna " do you". You want a woman to come and save you. You wanta a creature whose looking for a savior to save you. Thats why you are where you are nowadays. Your perception is wrong

So I should change my perception entirely? What's the proper outlook to have with all of this in your opinion?

 

[Zontyy]

This coming year I am focused on simplifying my life. I want to finish out the custody battle I am having with my EX and get custody of my kid. I am also forcing the sale of the home which I co-own with my EX. I'm in the process of purchasing a duplex currently which I intend to fix up and maybe live in half of it or just rent out both apartments. Currently until my house sells with my EX I am in between homes at my fathers and mothers. They let me stay rent free and I converted the guest room at my mothers into a dedicated room for my son with a pullout trundle bed for myself which matters to the courts. When I have my kid I stay at my mothers and when I don't have my kid I'm at my fathers home.

From a expenses standpoint I should just rent out the duplex and continue how I am doing. Job wise I am doing really well. I have no need for a woman right now because mentally I'm not there yet. In fact I need to invest in myself mentally and physically, I need to drop at least 50lbs before I even consider a relationship or sex. After I hit my peak again in fitness the urge for a woman will be there and hopefully by then the house I own with my EX will have sold and I can use that for a down payment on a nice home close to my job.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

Man I keep getting these really bad waves of frustration about my situation. It just goes on and on with no end in sight. It's just so baffling to me: I'm in the prime of my life and I'm far more physically attractive and healthy than I've ever been, yet I'm just not meeting anyone AT ALL. I'm visibly jacked and strong now and I'm losing bodyfat at a rapid pace, yet it's all silence and crickets. I hate the fact that I'm just WASTING my youth like this, it's the prime of my life yet I'm more single and celibate than ever. Dating apps have gotten to a point where even if I pay $40 a month for tinder gold it makes NO difference. I can't even get matches with plain looking women anymore. Every day I get more tempted to delete the apps for good but then I'd be left with nothing. I've used dating apps since I was 18 and it's all I know how to do in order to meet women. If I deleted the apps, it would amount to me giving up on trying to date women entirely. In real life I have NO prospects, NO way I could ever hope to meet women organically or consistently off the apps. It's just all a dead end and there's NO end in sight. It'll be FIVE YEARS next year since I've had a relationship or sex. FIVE YEARS! I'm way too attractive and based for this to be happening to me. There's NO logical reason why it should be this difficult. I'm not some nerdy virgin skinnyfat leftist beta loser who doesn't lift; I'm a based, reasonably attractive, cool, jacked, bass player in a rock n roll band. I SHOULD able to meet women, yet my sex and relationship life in the past (nearly) FIVE years has resembled that of an overweight virgin World of Warcraft player type shut-in. Why is it that I'm the hottest I've ever been yet I'm having so much trouble? The fact that I'm in this situation is just STUPID, this SHOULD NOT HAPPEN! I just can't take it anymore!