Things got a bit out of control, and now I have to decide...?

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My wife and I choose an open relationship, so I can be with other women. I strongly got the idea from cuckolding, since I also want her to feel good. Otherwise, I would be guilty, so I encouraged her.
She (40) slept with a 58-year-old man, who came on in her mouth after sex, she told me he barely could hold her penis hard and seemed to be a very old-fashioned gentleman, and not like men.
She hid it, I found it out, and now I want to invite other people to my home.
Since he was also married and my wife went to his place without dating him, now she told me I (34 ) can do whatever I can do.
Until now, she was hiding and never allowed me to meet or bring someone home.
But the problem is, which is real, my best friend (W35) also helped us to not ruin our marriage, and I have feelings for her, she also has feelings for me.
My wife knows that. She said one of the strongest reasons why she had an affair was the fact she believed that I would leave her with my best friend.
Now I want to have some distance from my family and best friend and just keep developing my business and my social skills, which means I will go out and approach other women, so I can explore and build my tribe.
I just want to invest more in my relationship, and my kid's education while having non-monogamist relationships for the next years which is and has always been a deep desire of mine.
AM I in a very dangerous situation???? I am afraid that I am not aware of this.
I found out this guy wanted to create a strong bond with my wife, and her heart was broken that he just wanted sex. She wanted more but was disappointed.
She told me that she just wanted a normal marriage like other people, but I could not believe her, she told me that in the beginning as well, but talked to this person for 8 months and hid that.
Now I also do not trust her much, like I did before. What is going on here?
 

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You basically fvcked yourself. Good luck getting out of this one...once you open Pandora's Box you can't close it.

We keep warning people not do it, but people keep wanting to find out the hard way.
Have this happened alot on here? I know i screwed things up by bringing it up during sex fantasies
 

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This.

Cannot tell you the number of idiots that think “yeah I’m gunna get laid like tile!” And then find out their wife in a month has seen more cawk in 4 weeks than a urinal at grand central station.

Sorry brah, you shat the bed on this one.

Hah I remember this chick I was banging told me that her hubs literally pushed her to swing, for years and she resisted. Then she did it and started loving it. He realized the above and told her he no longer wanted an open marriage. She agreed but continued to fack other guys, has done gangbangs etc.

Lather, rinse, repeat.


open marriage is such a bad idea. You will NEVER get laid as much as your wife, while you also get to own all the risks of marriage/divorce in today's world.

one sided monogamy or complete monogamy are the only way this works. Your wife is out the door and not coming back.
 

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My wife and I choose an open relationship, so I can be with other women. I strongly got the idea from cuckolding, since I also want her to feel good. Otherwise, I would be guilty, so I encouraged her.
She (40) slept with a 58-year-old man, who came on in her mouth after sex, she told me he barely could hold her penis hard and seemed to be a very old-fashioned gentleman, and not like men.
She hid it, I found it out, and now I want to invite other people to my home.
Since he was also married and my wife went to his place without dating him, now she told me I (34 ) can do whatever I can do.
Until now, she was hiding and never allowed me to meet or bring someone home.
But the problem is, which is real, my best friend (W35) also helped us to not ruin our marriage, and I have feelings for her, she also has feelings for me.
My wife knows that. She said one of the strongest reasons why she had an affair was the fact she believed that I would leave her with my best friend.
Now I want to have some distance from my family and best friend and just keep developing my business and my social skills, which means I will go out and approach other women, so I can explore and build my tribe.
I just want to invest more in my relationship, and my kid's education while having non-monogamist relationships for the next years which is and has always been a deep desire of mine.
AM I in a very dangerous situation???? I am afraid that I am not aware of this.
I found out this guy wanted to create a strong bond with my wife, and her heart was broken that he just wanted sex. She wanted more but was disappointed.
She told me that she just wanted a normal marriage like other people, but I could not believe her, she told me that in the beginning as well, but talked to this person for 8 months and hid that.
Now I also do not trust her much, like I did before. What is going on here?
You shouldn't let men Jizz in your wife's face/mouth dude.. Living a life of complete degenracy lands you in shyte like this.
 

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This.

Cannot tell you the number of idiots that think “yeah I’m gunna get laid like tile!” And then find out their wife in a month has seen more cawk in 4 weeks than a urinal at grand central station.

Sorry brah, you shat the bed on this one.

Hah I remember this chick I was banging told me that her hubs literally pushed her to swing, for years and she resisted. Then she did it and started loving it. He realized the above and told her he no longer wanted an open marriage. She agreed but continued to fack other guys, has done gangbangs etc.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

I understand, and thank you for the insight, but to be honest, I trust her that she would not do it again.

In the meanwhile, I will read books about polyamory and polysecure. .. and will go out by myself. She told me she will tell me whenever the opportunity comes or she will get introduced to the next opportunity.

But for now she told me to do, whatever I like.

I am her first, and she said she just wants to see how it is to sleep with someone else.

Right now I have to believe the mother of my son, and of course, if she will not do this, I will erase her from my life.,
 

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My wife and I choose an open relationship, so I can be with other women. I strongly got the idea from cuckolding, since I also want her to feel good. Otherwise, I would be guilty, so I encouraged her.
She (40) slept with a 58-year-old man, who came on in her mouth after sex, she told me he barely could hold her penis hard and seemed to be a very old-fashioned gentleman, and not like men.
She hid it, I found it out, and now I want to invite other people to my home.
Since he was also married and my wife went to his place without dating him, now she told me I (34 ) can do whatever I can do.
Until now, she was hiding and never allowed me to meet or bring someone home.
But the problem is, which is real, my best friend (W35) also helped us to not ruin our marriage, and I have feelings for her, she also has feelings for me.
My wife knows that. She said one of the strongest reasons why she had an affair was the fact she believed that I would leave her with my best friend.
Now I want to have some distance from my family and best friend and just keep developing my business and my social skills, which means I will go out and approach other women, so I can explore and build my tribe.
I just want to invest more in my relationship, and my kid's education while having non-monogamist relationships for the next years which is and has always been a deep desire of mine.
AM I in a very dangerous situation???? I am afraid that I am not aware of this.
I found out this guy wanted to create a strong bond with my wife, and her heart was broken that he just wanted sex. She wanted more but was disappointed.
She told me that she just wanted a normal marriage like other people, but I could not believe her, she told me that in the beginning as well, but talked to this person for 8 months and hid that.
Now I also do not trust her much, like I did before. What is going on here?
Pandoras box has been opened and its only going downhill from now. Consider your RTL is over with her cuz you fvcked this one up.
NEVER, never ever invite other dudes to have sex with your gf/wife / into your life. This is a cardinal rule that must not be broken.

You might as well end it now and move on to a new girl. Your wife is now for the streets.
 

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She (40) I (34 )
Why bother with an extended relationship with a woman 6 years older than you are? You wasted time and picked a bad prospect. You are at least going to get to start over since your marriage is a failure. Pick a woman younger than you are next time.

This marriage is over. Contact a divorce lawyer today if you haven't already.

You basically fvcked yourself. Good luck getting out of this one...once you open Pandora's Box you can't close it.

We keep warning people not do it, but people keep wanting to find out the hard way.
Threesomes, open relationships, etc. are usually harmful to the primary coupling. It's not a good idea to do a threesome or open a relationship if the goal is to keep a stable primary coupling.

While I am critical of longer term monogamy at times on this board, it's usually a more stable solution than anything in the open relationship/poly realm.

open marriage is such a bad idea. You will NEVER get laid as much as your wife, while you also get to own all the risks of marriage/divorce in today's world.
Most open relationships/open marriages favor the woman. Most women in open relationships/open marriages have a more active sex life than their boyfriends/husbands. It is easier for women to find sex.

Caleb Jones (Alpha Male 2.0, formerly Blackdragon) has promoted an open relationships system for years that enables men to get laid than the women in their open relationships. I haven't read his Open Relationships Manual but I'm skeptical. It's likely one of those things where the principles seem easy in a book or in an instructional video, but difficult to execute in real life.

Open relationships are quasi cuckoldry. It's not exactly cuckoldry because one cannot be a cuck when there's no official cheating. However, it feels like a lot like cuckoldry when the primary woman in a man's life is having sex with other men. It doesn't matter that the framework of the relationship allows for that. It doesn't feel the same without sexual exclusivity with there is an actual relationship and not a casual sex type situationship. Yes, your point about open marriages and the risks too is very important given the court system with divorces.

one sided monogamy or complete monogamy are the only way this works. Your wife is out the door and not coming back.
A monogamous framework is generally a more stable framework than a poly/open framework.

However, monogamy often fails because one or both parties eventually have an affair.

The reason that monogamy often fails, leading to affairs, is because people often stay in monogamous relationships too long. Knowing when to exit a monogamous relationship is important. Ideally, the exit happens before one party has an affair.

I remember this chick I was banging told me that her hubs literally pushed her to swing, for years and she resisted. Then she did it and started loving it. He realized the above and told her he no longer wanted an open marriage. She agreed but continued to fack other guys, has done gangbangs etc.
Perfect way to ruin a marriage!
 

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My wife and I choose an open relationship, so I can be with other women. I strongly got the idea from cuckolding, since I also want her to feel good. Otherwise, I would be guilty, so I encouraged her.
She (40) slept with a 58-year-old man, who came on in her mouth after sex, she told me he barely could hold her penis hard and seemed to be a very old-fashioned gentleman, and not like men.
She hid it, I found it out, and now I want to invite other people to my home.
Since he was also married and my wife went to his place without dating him, now she told me I (34 ) can do whatever I can do.
Until now, she was hiding and never allowed me to meet or bring someone home.
But the problem is, which is real, my best friend (W35) also helped us to not ruin our marriage, and I have feelings for her, she also has feelings for me.
My wife knows that. She said one of the strongest reasons why she had an affair was the fact she believed that I would leave her with my best friend.
Now I want to have some distance from my family and best friend and just keep developing my business and my social skills, which means I will go out and approach other women, so I can explore and build my tribe.
I just want to invest more in my relationship, and my kid's education while having non-monogamist relationships for the next years which is and has always been a deep desire of mine.
AM I in a very dangerous situation???? I am afraid that I am not aware of this.
I found out this guy wanted to create a strong bond with my wife, and her heart was broken that he just wanted sex. She wanted more but was disappointed.
She told me that she just wanted a normal marriage like other people, but I could not believe her, she told me that in the beginning as well, but talked to this person for 8 months and hid that.
Now I also do not trust her much, like I did before. What is going on here?

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Encouraging your own wife to be a ***** and cvm dumpster......

You got to be kidding me.......... tell us you are only trolling.
 

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Encouraging your own wife to be a ***** and cvm dumpster......
There are many men out there encouraging their girlfriends/wives to have sex with other men. These aren't the types of men who typically participate in SoSuave forums, but they exist.

@Pierce.Manhammer gave an example of one earlier in the thread.

This is why I encouraged @GoodMan32 to market himself to these types of married women and women in relationships seeking new penis.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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My wife and I choose an open relationship, so I can be with other women. I strongly got the idea from cuckolding, since I also want her to feel good.
Dude, I see a lot of red flags.

1) Your wife is 6 years your senior. As a man, why marry an older wife?

2) A promotion without a pay raise is not a promotion. An open relationship is not a relationship. If you need to have a side dish, keep it discrete if you are married.

3) What you have done is an irreversible process. Now that your wife has f*cked other men, she'll continue to do so in your "open relationship".

4) One day, she might even leave you and your kid behind for another man.
 
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This will not end well.

I understand, and thank you for the insight, but to be honest, I trust her that she would not do it again.

In the meanwhile, I will read books about polyamory and polysecure. .. and will go out by myself. She told me she will tell me whenever the opportunity comes or she will get introduced to the next opportunity.

But for now she told me to do, whatever I like.

I am her first, and she said she just wants to see how it is to sleep with someone else.

Right now I have to believe the mother of my son, and of course, if she will not do this, I will erase her from my life.,
 

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I think you guys are right, she does not even have sex with me anymore, even she "promised".

The problem will still be there.

I guess I will focus on work and finding new people in my life.
 

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There are many men out there encouraging their girlfriends/wives to have sex with other men. These aren't the types of men who typically participate in SoSuave forums, but they exist.

@Pierce.Manhammer gave an example of one earlier in the thread.

This is why I encouraged @GoodMan32 to market himself to these types of married women and women in relationships seeking new penis.
You don't think men watching porn leads to this kind of cuckoldry?
 

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I think it does. I talk about my no porn and no fap practice on this forum regularly.
I'm willing to bet, OPs minds got effected with degenracy from porn, to the point where he invited teams of black dudes to rearrange the wife's guts.

No he's wandering what went wrong.
 

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There are many men out there encouraging their girlfriends/wives to have sex with other men. These aren't the types of men who typically participate in SoSuave forums, but they exist.

@Pierce.Manhammer gave an example of one earlier in the thread.

This is why I encouraged @GoodMan32 to market himself to these types of married women and women in relationships seeking new penis.
You don't think men watching porn leads to this kind of cuckoldry?
I dont necessarily think that all men choose for this .. Very often it will be a desperate attempt to keep her around.

1.She'll openly confesses that she wants to see other dudes. Seen this A LOT. But dude lives so much in scarcity that he refuses to leave her .

2. She already cheated. In order to cope dude changes the conditions of the relationship. Suddenly the relationship is "open ".



Now, we as men maneuver ourselves in these predicaments. By tying assest to the woman and sharing possessions it becomes so much harder to walk away when something like this happens. Dude will figure that if he sleeps with one woman they're "even".

One of the worst things about the redpill /sosauve is that the knowledge you obtain is like chemotherapy : it might cure the disease, but it will also kill the POSSIBILITY of being with an actual "good" woman(living together, trusting her, tying your honor to her (!!!!!) , letting her "have your peace of mind)

doom the man who throws all of these warnings out of the window only to get played "again". Such a man might seriously consider deleting himself out of shame.


Porn = cuckoldery , but real cuck shute (like open relationships )are 90 % of the time HER idea..
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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