escorts vs civvies

[corrector]

Good point about possibly trying to pass yourself off as Indian. Then I have a mixed black/white coworker that's gotten mistaken for Latino.

The Afro-centric features that I have is mainly my hair. I have clear Black-guy hair if it's long and grey with bald spot. When it's cut, then I look very ambigious. People have mistaken me from being from Egypt, or they just might ask what is my background, or would sound surpized when they see my Black mother next to me to learn she is actually my mother.

Your co-worker has visited escorts too? I've heard that if a mixed-race guy tells an Escort that they are Cuban when they ask for a background, usually they will let them in.

(Again, it's a curious aspect of theorizing that gives fuel to the fire, so to speak. For a mental interest/engagement to last near 9 years without visiting an escort I guess must be bizzare. According to my religion this world will not be the same soon, and if I don't get my act together (ie stop obsessing, theroizing, fantasizing about escorts) then I could be in for a world of hurt being left to face what will be shortly happening (ie something about missing people, or waking up one morning to find my mother gone with just her clothes left on the chair and some new political figure dominating the air-waves to bring calm to a chaotic world, but ending up being the devil itself, etc.... you know the usual drill. Certainly nobody here will be ready for that)).

And no, I wasn't interviewing her about her preferences. It's amazing how much escorts will share on their own.

She still let you go inside of her so of course she had to talk since you own a piece of her right?

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Amsterdam,
Don't worry about your Boy being Autistic,I have three Lads,One was a Mathematical Prodigy at 12 now drives a Fork Lift!,another was intellectually average and is a School Teacher,the Youngest was Autistic,couldn't articulate till 2.5 years, ended up a Diesal Mechanic a career that has made him a millionaire!....The happiest?The fork lift driver,makes you think?

 

[GoodMan32]

The Afro-centric features that I have is mainly my hair. I have clear Black-guy hair if it's long and grey with bald spot. When it's cut, then I look very ambigious. People have mistaken me from being from Egypt, or they just might ask what is my background, or would sound surpized when they see my Black mother next to me to learn she is actually my mother.

Your co-worker has visited escorts too? I've heard that if a mixed-race guy tells an Escort that they are Cuban when they ask for a background, usually they will let them in.

(Again, it's a curious aspect of theorizing that gives fuel to the fire, so to speak. For a mental interest/engagement to last near 9 years without visiting an escort I guess must be bizzare. According to my religion this world will not be the same soon, and if I don't get my act together (ie stop obsessing, theroizing, fantasizing about escorts) then I could be in for a world of hurt being left to face what will be shortly happening (ie something about missing people, or waking up one morning to find my mother gone with just her clothes left on the chair and some new political figure dominating the air-waves to bring calm to a chaotic world, but ending up being the devil itself, etc.... you know the usual drill. Certainly nobody here will be ready for that)).




She still let you go inside of her so of course she had to talk since you own a piece of her right?

I don't know if my coworker has utilized escorts. I don't discuss my escort habit at work (the last thing I want is for my employer to find out).

My coworker was making a comment about getting mistaken for Latino in general. Interestingly, he also mentioned getting mistaken for Egyptian.

And yeah, most escorts will talk during our session (with varying levels of how personal the discussion becomes)

 

[GoodMan32]

Hi Amsterdam,
Don't worry about your Boy being Autistic,I have three Lads,One was a Mathematical Prodigy at 12 now drives a Fork Lift!,another was intellectually average and is a School Teacher,the Youngest was Autistic,couldn't articulate till 2.5 years, ended up a Diesal Mechanic a career that has made him a millionaire!....The happiest?The fork lift driver,makes you think?

Even though you weren't replying to me, I feel compelled to chime in (since I'm on the spectrum).

In 5th grade, I scored in the 90th percentile on standardized testing. Then in high school, I was an A student. My old teachers probably think I'm a doctor, scientist, engineer, lawyer, etc.

Yet I'm none of those (and I make less than 40k per year)

 

[corrector]

I don't know if my coworker has utilized escorts. I don't discuss my escort habit at work (the last thing I want is for my employer to find out).

Yeah, imagine putting a vacation request for one day, taking your vacation money, and actually putting in a request to take a day off to visit an escort and use the money for that, lol! Would that vacation request be approved? (ie not advisable to do during probation)

I have noticed a few incall locations in the city where I work not too far by from the office, but don't think the lunch break would be long enough to accomodate even a short visit (ie lunch break is 30 minutes, and even assuming a session is as short as 10-15 minutes, there is also transit to and from the place). Would probably need a formal vacation day or work at a half-day in order to pull something like that, lol!
There is also the fact the office is emptied out on Saturdays. I guess you could sneak an escort in and go into their meditation room (ie which looks like a big closet but it's the only real private area in the office) during a Saturday lunch break.

Do you hobby out on break-days/weekends or do this on breaks during the day while you are at work?

My coworker was making a comment about getting mistaken for Latino in general. Interestingly, he also mentioned getting mistaken for Egyptian.

He has the same issues that I do. Again, that adds to the curiosity about escorts, espeically those who have no-black ads.

And yeah, most escorts will talk during our session (with varying levels of how personal the discussion becomes)

With me talking is one of the most important aspects since I don't really talk to girls. It's against my religion to have sex with them. So at least I know I'm paying to talk to someone. Cool. It also would (ie as in past-tense) turn me on with the session itself. Have you tried role-play or sessions where you are both video-recorded and you kept the recording? That would be interesting as well. You know like father/daughter role-play with a 20 year old escort (ie again talking only). Think there is an incall 5 minutes from my home offering that for like $ 70. I've eyed this place since September but have not showed up. Think the good Lord is helping me out with that temptation as my father always picks me up on time from the train station so I don't wonder off into that location (which is a short walk from the train station).

 

[GoodMan32]

Yeah, imagine putting a vacation request for one day, taking your vacation money, and actually putting in a request to take a day off to visit an escort and use the money for that, lol! Would that vacation request be approved? (ie not advisable to do during probation)

I have noticed a few incall locations in the city where I work not too far by from the office, but don't think the lunch break would be long enough to accomodate even a short visit (ie lunch break is 30 minutes, and even assuming a session is as short as 10-15 minutes, there is also transit to and from the place). Would probably need a formal vacation day or work at a half-day in order to pull something like that, lol!
There is also the fact the office is emptied out on Saturdays. I guess you could sneak an escort in and go into their meditation room (ie which looks like a big closet but it's the only real private area in the office) during a Saturday lunch break.

Do you hobby out on break-days/weekends or do this on breaks during the day while you are at work?



He has the same issues that I do. Again, that adds to the curiosity about escorts, espeically those who have no-black ads.




With me talking is one of the most important aspects since I don't really talk to girls. It's against my religion to have sex with them. So at least I know I'm paying to talk to someone. Cool. It also would (ie as in past-tense) turn me on with the session itself. Have you tried role-play or sessions where you are both video-recorded and you kept the recording? That would be interesting as well. You know like father/daughter role-play with a 20 year old escort (ie again talking only). Think there is an incall 5 minutes from my home offering that for like $ 70. I've eyed this place since September but have not showed up. Think the good Lord is helping me out with that temptation as my father always picks me up on time from the train station so I don't wonder off into that location (which is a short walk from the train station).

There was this one time when I took a half day so I could bang an escort in the afternoon (obviously my supervisor had no idea why I requested a half day hehehehehehehe). In general though, I only bang escorts on weekends.

I get a 30 minute lunch too. No way is that long enough for an escort session.

My job is Monday-Friday. When I've gone in for weekend overtime, sometimes I'm the only one there. In theory, I could probably get away with sneaking an escort in on the weekend. Way too risky though.

I've never thought of recording a session. Not exactly my cup of tea.

 

[SW15]

In 5th grade, I scored in the 90th percentile on standardized testing. Then in high school, I was an A student. My old teachers probably think I'm a doctor, scientist, engineer, lawyer, etc.

Yet I'm none of those (and I make less than 40k per year)

What happened?

You will want to up your career success for conventional dating. There's not much demand for a man 30+ making less than $40,000 per year for any sort of longer term relationship framework.

You do have the big penis to market to women, so there'd be a market for short term sex for you with that. Married women would also be interested in that because it would be a novelty to most of them.

 

[corrector]

There was this one time when I took a half day so I could bang an escort in the afternoon (obviously my supervisor had no idea why I requested a half day hehehehehehehe). In general though, I only bang escorts on weekends.

Interesting. Do you use up vacation days or take vacation-pay if you get half-day?

I get a 30 minute lunch too. No way is that long enough for an escort session.

That depends on what you intend to do within the session. It's long enough for hyper-deprived issues (ie I've never been with a real girl in a very long-time so anything I can do in 5-10 minutes here would be great, (ie you want to hug a girl, you want to grope a girl, you want to fondle a girl, you want to dance with a girl, you wan't to suck a girl's boobs, etc....). If you are not hyper-deprived (ie been with a girl in some way in the past while), then it would be too under-stimulating.

My job is Monday-Friday. When I've gone in for weekend overtime, sometimes I'm the only one there. In theory, I could probably get away with sneaking an escort in on the weekend. Way too risky though.

Sounds similar to my set-up. Sometimes I get a day off during the week and work on Saturdays (ie but that will be my new work from home assignment). The thought had crossed my mind (ie within the layers of fantasy/theorizing, along with watching escort ads/amsterdam prostitute porn on my on my smartphone on the washroom while taking a short break from the desk), but in practicality, it does not make any rational sense. For starters, it puts you completely out of the zone for the job itself and it's too jarring to transition from a work-mode mental space zone, to that type of zone without it effecting the job performance itself. I don't think something like that would work. Plus, the odd co-worker may pop in, or the boss may decide to visit the office and you can get in trouble.

However, I did get oral with my ex-wife at my desk at a Real-Estate office back in April 2014 (ie this was just before we got married. She was a completely different person after we got married and was not fun to be with anymore like that). She took off her clothes inside the office. If you are at a self-employed place of business where you can lock the door and expect privacy, and other office spaces are rented out, then it's really your show. However, if you are paid on the clock and it's not your place, or have any private office space where you can lock the door, then its hard to pull that off.

It seems that with civvies it may be easier to do these types of things? (Or, maybe in your case, one of the escorts who is talking to you off the clock and you feel a connection with (ie as opposed to a new escort out of the blue)).

I've never thought of recording a session. Not exactly my cup of tea.

What about roleplay?

 

[GoodMan32]

What happened?

You will want to up your career success for conventional dating. There's not much demand for a man 30+ making less than $40,000 per year for any sort of longer term relationship framework.

You do have the big penis to market to women, so there'd be a market for short term sex for you with that. Married women would also be interested in that because it would be a novelty to most of them.

I ended up getting a college degree after high school. That being said, there's a massive unemployment rate for people on the spectrum (even with college degrees). Per a quick google search, the general consensus is 75-85% of people on the spectrum don't have a job (and even for those who have a job, many are part timers).

It's amazing I have a full time job at all.

Married women are a market worth dipping into (pun intended). The most satisfying sex I've ever had was a married woman in her 40s back when I was 23.

I'm not interested in dating anyway. The fact my sausage is only good for sex (not a relationship) is fine by me.

 

[GoodMan32]

Interesting. Do you use up vacation days or take vacation-pay if you get half-day?



That depends on what you intend to do within the session. It's long enough for hyper-deprived issues (ie I've never been with a real girl in a very long-time so anything I can do in 5-10 minutes here would be great, (ie you want to hug a girl, you want to grope a girl, you want to fondle a girl, you want to dance with a girl, you wan't to suck a girl's boobs, etc....). If you are not hyper-deprived (ie been with a girl in some way in the past while), then it would be too under-stimulating.



Sounds similar to my set-up. Sometimes I get a day off during the week and work on Saturdays (ie but that will be my new work from home assignment). The thought had crossed my mind (ie within the layers of fantasy/theorizing, along with watching escort ads/amsterdam prostitute porn on my on my smartphone on the washroom while taking a short break from the desk), but in practicality, it does not make any rational sense. For starters, it puts you completely out of the zone for the job itself and it's too jarring to transition from a work-mode mental space zone, to that type of zone without it effecting the job performance itself. I don't think something like that would work. Plus, the odd co-worker may pop in, or the boss may decide to visit the office and you can get in trouble.

However, I did get oral with my ex-wife at my desk at a Real-Estate office back in April 2014 (ie this was just before we got married. She was a completely different person after we got married and was not fun to be with anymore like that). She took off her clothes inside the office. If you are at a self-employed place of business where you can lock the door and expect privacy, and other office spaces are rented out, then it's really your show. However, if you are paid on the clock and it's not your place, or have any private office space where you can lock the door, then its hard to pull that off.

It seems that with civvies it may be easier to do these types of things? (Or, maybe in your case, one of the escorts who is talking to you off the clock and you feel a connection with (ie as opposed to a new escort out of the blue)).



What about roleplay?

I have a feeling it might work differently in Canada. Here's how my employer does it: Every year, we have a certain amount of PTO (paid time off) hours. If you use PTO, you get paid your same hourly rate that you would if you worked.

Example: When I took a half day, I did 4 hours of work, 4 hours of PTO, and got paid for the equivalent of 8 hours of work. No more or no less pay than if I worked the full 8 hours.

Whether civvies or escorts would be easier to sneak into my work is a moot point. I don't have my own office. Then on the weekend (if I go in for overtime), even if I'm initially by myself, there's always a chance one of the managers could pop in.

As for roleplay, I've done roleplay with escorts.

 

[GoodMan32]

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I like the looks of her

 

[corrector]

I have a feeling it might work differently in Canada. Here's how my employer does it: Every year, we have a certain amount of PTO (paid time off) hours. If you use PTO, you get paid your same hourly rate that you would if you worked.

Example: When I took a half day, I did 4 hours of work, 4 hours of PTO, and got paid for the equivalent of 8 hours of work. No more or no less pay than if I worked the full 8 hours.

Whether civvies or escorts would be easier to sneak into my work is a moot point. I don't have my own office. Then on the weekend (if I go in for overtime), even if I'm initially by myself, there's always a chance one of the managers could pop in.

As for roleplay, I've done roleplay with escorts.

It is different or I have a crappy work arrangement. We dont have PTO, more like you wont be fired if you take time off unless its a vacation. Pay is 3.5 times welfare rate here so its better than benefits.

 

[corrector]

Have been going over a number of escort ads today and noticed that ALLOT of escorts have OF pages. It's curious as I thought this mainly happened during the Pandemic, but now that we are post-panemic, I have basically saved like 15 to 20 escorts who have OnlyFans pages.
It is always an itch of mine to get a stack of porn from a woman who is known to be working as an escort and today it looks like there is now a huge demand for this. If you look at escort pics, a good number of them also have OnlyFans pages too.

Some of the quality of porn on some of these escort OnlyFans is also mind-blowing. It's better than hardcore or free porn out there. (ie we've all seen when you go through thumbnails in hardcore sites there could be images of gay, children, or some disturbing sh1t, and if you are just interested in softcore, then you might see too much hardcore, etc... whereas OnlyFans looks more like a straight solution if you want to look at porn based on a particular escort).

The real question, is how do we differentiate between subscribing to a "civvie"'s OnlyFans page verses an escort's "OnlyFans" page?

With an escort, there is a tangible expectation, that you could probably meet up with her (ie in most cases). You could show her a picture of your d1ck for a d1ck rating and see if she'll still see you after she sees that. With a civvie, there is no guarantee you'll meet her at all. I mean you can subscribe to her. We've all seen horror stories where some of these civvie OnlyFans girls have their own boyfriends and are just taking guys money and may give them a nice pleutonic hug but are never sexually interested in the guy.

However, it seems rather horish still that a civvie is still selling her pictures online for money. How does a civvie then differ from an escort with respect to OnlyFans presentation?

 

[Focal core]

If you have daily (or even weekly) sex, yeah.

Having sex with an escort twice a month, however (which is how often a lot of married couples do it), is probably cheaper than a wife

Its a lot cheaper trust me. But now i do have a gf who treat me like kings and she pays. Depends.

 

[corrector]

The real question for whom?

It's relevant for the discussion of the thread because I don't subscribe to "civvies" OF pages but seem to be only looking at escort OF pages, if I go there. A "civvies" OF presumes she does not have sex with guys for money, or may not have sex at all with anyone for that matter and may just be an exhibitionist of sorts. But, yes, it is curious, OF could blur the line between civvies and escorts if both are using them for the same purpose. (ie if you get a d-rating from a "civvie" vs a d-rating from an escort)

I can assure you that most normal men do not give a sh!t about these OF girls. To most regular folks, any woman showing off her naked body against payment is a sex worker, whether she fvcks for money also is irrelevant.

It sounds then like "civvies" who have OF pages are not respected. However, the big difference is there is no guarantee you can meet up with a "civvie" who is doing an OF page. She may be voyeristic about her own life with her own people. I think some of these "civvie' women hook-up with chads they might connect with on OF, just like any online venue. However, with escort pages, you know she's sexing for money so it she may seem more accessible. After all, all you have to do is contact her directly through her ad.

You shouldn't be frequenting those prostitution porn sites.

Of course, agreed on religious grounds. Faith can be weak sometimes. For example, if you are having a bad day at work and nothing is going right and you are working from home, then it can be tempting to go on those sites with the tablet to look at something nice for escape.

However, in terms of matter of taste of porn, I've always gravitated to that type of porn. Sometimes I think this has allot of negative hype that is fueled by religious aspects which I think creates a taboo lust towards this type of thing.

Try and find an actual normal woman for a change.

Of course I've always tried to find an actual normal woman. That has recently and chronicaly failed which is why we are having this discussion in the first place. If actual normal woman liked me then all of this would cease to exist. But this is not the case.

Remember, I visited the first escort in my life after my ex-wife rejected me and divorce papers were mailed out. It has always been the ultimate symbol of rejection from "normal women". Maybe that's how I vent back at God for having such a terrible life in that department.

 

[corrector]

I remember that, yes.
And I think it's the wrong thing to do. Once you start using sex workers for gratification you are programming yourself that prostitution is an alternative for having relationships.

I don't think something I did 9 years ago has any bearing at anything at all in my life right now. Any "programming' that did happen seems to be to create PTSD against using sex workers.

I did open your post despite you are in ignore, however, if you insinuate or suggest that I visited any other escort after Dec 5, 2014 then I'm going to have to ignore your posts again. I can blow up something I did 9 years ago and you can talk about bring the past to life, but that
would be another issue.

Right now we are talking about OnlyFans subscriptions which is a vastly different issue entirely.

If your faith would be strong enough, you would accept your lot in life. Just like Job.

That makes it all the more disingenious to suggest that I look for "normal women" though.

By the way, Job did get a second wife and was never a lifelong incel. He did have a wife and children before his test and therefore he had sex. He also had a second wife again after the test. So, his lot in life was never perfectly without a woman.

 

[corrector]

Re-read how magnanimous God was towards Job.
God destroyed EVERYTHING Job had, his wife and children as well.
That God gave him another wife as a consolation price is not really comforting.

Again, we are just looking at a single issue. However, bringing up Job is inappropriate since celibacy is not necessarily a bad thing in the Bible to equate it as a test. It is even celebrated in some circles. However, I just meant to point out that it's a bit rude, in these types of threads to say "look for a normal woman". While I may have been a bit colourful, I think that is what I was driving at, whether you can get that or not.

I don't put anyone on ignore, but if you want to ignore my posts, go ahead. I really don't write here for you.

The mods told us to do that. You don't listen to the mods? If I know I'm going to get triggered and start posting crazy then I don't want to see threads locked or posters banned on nonsense.

No, you're still seeking out sex workers and relishing the idea that a meeting might not be impossible. If prostitutes give you PTSD as you claim, you should avoid sex workers in all shapes and sizes and not try to justify viewing OF prostitutes like it's 'something different'.

You're acting like an alcoholic on the wagon loitering before a liquor store window.

When I visit an escort in person, actually visit one and pay her money, etc... then I'll believe you. It's fair to assume there are some fixed boundaries, sort of like an invisible wall. 9 years is a long time and it is not normal to NOT visit an escort if there is that much mental activity going on in the background to want to visit one unless there is a mental block towards seeing one. Why would there be a mental block? That sounds like PTSD to me. I may just be doing things I was comfortable with BEFORE I saw the Dec 5, 2014 escort, and those habits were long time there since 1997 (ie looking at escort ads).

The mental block has to be lifted and I would have to visit an escort to believe this. I should visit an escort and kiss ask her to sit on my lap and have a soft-core session (ie okay, no sex, just cuddle up with her) if there is no mental block. I'm touched deprived and should connect with any woman like that. But yet, I'm not doing that. Why am I not doing that? That would have been done yesterday if that was the case.

 

[corrector]

I ignore you often, but I don't 'put you on ignore'. I'm not worried about 'getting triggered'.

Right, okay, well, you didn't make fun of me on this post and you sounded sincere so I think I'll unignore you.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Looks like we have a couple of though guys over here. But at least you have been relatively civil towards each other.

I think at this point we can just lock that thread. It's 19 pages, I think everything there is to say about the topic has been said and these two have gone into a religious discussion as well, which is against forum rules.