At the end of womens empowerment where are we...

[kavi]

Hello guys, just wanted to put this out there.

I remember being upset and angry at all the redpill anti-feminism stuff that came out around 15 years ago. I feel at that time we were in the heights of women entering the workforce and competing with men, with things getting more expensive, requirement for dual-incomes etc.

Now, I feel we are nearing the end of that cycle.

In the west, for the past 50 years, especially around 15 years ago, everyone was talking about 'empowering' women. So we have been through a full generation of this. Where are we now...

Most women today are completely lost in THE SYSTEM, as unfortunately are most men. A typical western woman today has little life progress or experiences post 25 years of age. From 25 to 40 many women of my age had no emotional or mental development. The fact is we are in a very atomizing social system, men and women are required to get jobs and then just hang on, and thats it.

So how does the average 40year old woman today compare to one in say the 60s? I dont think too favourably, personally I dont see that women today are smarter or more emotionally or psychologically superior to previous generations. Infact, I think many women today are just one step away from an emotional breakdown, anxiety, stress etc.

So what actually happened.

While people talked about Womens empowerment and all that, all that REALLY happened is that women went to work, the elites/rich/capitalism took advantage of the whole situations, and got WAY richer.

The biggest change in social dynamics since women entering the workforce in big numbers, is that the rich got richer, and everyone else, including women got screwed.

Most women wont admit but they truly are screwed. Theres alot of talk on here and elsewhere about mens failures, loneliness, and women not wanting men, black pill blah blah, look guys all this is bul****, at the end of the day, women will always need men more than the other way round.

Average Guys/Simps > Women > Alpha Males. In order of who needs relationships the most, beta males want relationships the most, women next, and alpha males need it the least.

The Average guy/simp is taking a battering in todays market. But I aint talking about that. Im talking about women. Infact, women may want relationships even more than lower class guys, in which case they losing big time.

Im really starting to see through all this stuff, all thats happened in the last 70 years is that the rich got richer, capitalism won, jobs became harder, consumerism won, and everything about womens empowerment was just nothing. The only thing women have done in that time is get jobs. Getting a degree and getting a job is nothing, its just normal for a normie in western society, its not even anything to be proud of or an achievement.

Jobs and work is nothing, for men or women, it aint ****, it aint tough, it aint hard, its just nothing, nearly anyone can do anyjob with a bit of training.

This whole thing is just a big ****up and a loss for everyone except big business, the rich, capitalism and consumerism.

I feel i should now change my approach to women, tell them about this, tell them how much of a failure they are, and for any of them to have more than a normie they are gonna have to take it very seriously and stop messing about and being dumb losers.

I mean seriously these women are such losers and so dumb as soon as they entered the workforce everything became **** and now few ppl are happy or secure in their jobs, relationships went dead, more importantly the whole of society is full of negativity, toxiticity, greed, insecurity etc. All this happened as soon as womens empowerment became a thing.

I dont want women to go back into housewife mode or not have freedoms, but seriously, what else have women done since those days, all they;ve done is go and get jobs or some degrees which aint sh1t really.

To get to this from the 1950s, it could have been so much easier and better if we just allocated women training/education and jobs, things would have worked out much better, instead we now have a completely messed up politics, culture, economy, relationships, loneliness etc I mean everything collapsed.

 

[Supreme Solar Wolf]

It's hard to argue with anything u just posted. I think that things will b better wen communism takes hold in the western world.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

Most men are huge losers HERE as well. The West is over... so glad I grew up in the 80s

Why not tell them something interesting, why does everything have to be so black and white with everyone here?

If you're only seeing garbage women, it's because you're sitting in a dumpster.

No one is glued to their seat. Go see the world, it's not the same out there.

Take some responsibility for your situation. You're all LAZY.

 

[Kotaix]

It's hard to argue with anything u just posted. I think that things will b better wen communism takes hold in the western world.

Nothing is better under communism. ALL communists are selfish and greedy, they claim to be for the "working man", but in reality they just want to steal from everyone else so they can have it all while no one else has anything.

The only thing that will change for the better under marxism is that people will be drawn closer together at the local community level as the government fails to provide food or support for anyone other than bootlickers.

Regarding the OP. You should know better than to try and redpill people, especially women.

You get what you tolerate. People are more focused on their egos and appearing to be rich and successful in the eyes of others than they are in making rational choices or being financially responsible. Just look at pickup trucks now in the US: if you're stupid enough, you can buy a ford raptor for 130k, and part of that price includes a HUGE dealer markup.

People no longer know what true hardship is, and nothing short of that is going to change anyone's mind.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

W E I M A R

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Supreme Solar Wolf,
"I think that things will be better when communism takes hold in the Western world."....No,I think you have your money on the wrong Pony,more likely the Towel Heads.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Upset and angry about what? This is the type of stuff woman haters say.

 

[kavi]

Upset and angry about what? This is the type of stuff woman haters say.

Idk maybe its the winter onset but im really going through some mental/emotional issues with people especially women. I just think people in general are too stupid.

Im thinking this is not the best time, it maybe the worst time, to be thinking of starting ltrs with women.

I've been close to many women over the past few years. Thing is as, as a guy, ofcourse I am not like other guys, but I feel every woman if Im with her feels she is my equal or some sh1t.

The problem I have is with the marriage system. In the marriage system husband and wife are equal. In the PIMP system the females and the PIMP are not equal.

I just dont want any woman to feel she is my equal if we are together or married, unless she can show she is as above others as I am. But she cannot be. She is only the equal or normie guys.

I need to get into the PIMP/Polygamy Game but these women are too hardwired into the marriage/ltr relationship-means-we-are-equal which cannot be true as none of the women I know have walked the path I walked or can replace with another so wtf is wrong with them and if its not possible to get the correct respect or acknowledgement than maybe relationships with women aint for me.

Also, if a woman wants me to bring her happiness, I should be able to ask for access to her whole bank account in exchange. If a woman wants it all she needs to give it all up. Idk why I feel bad about bringing this up with women in the future. I think its fair, she can take it or leave it.

Keep your money and ego and take your chances out there in normie world or come with me but you have to pay with everything.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE MARRIAGE AND MONOGAMY SYSTEM FIRST CREATED EQUALITY AMONGTS MEN. This hurt the Alpha Males most as it raised betas to higher status. Then women raised themselves above betas.

Now its all ****ed cos no one wants an Alpha male at the top of society, betas more than anything, and I know society is fcked so its all good for me I can watch and be amused at the failure of women and men due to them having egos and not showing respect or acknowledgement to the actual alpha males of society.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Idk maybe its the winter onset but im really going through some mental/emotional issues with people especially women. I just think people in general are too stupid.

Im thinking this is not the best time, it maybe the worst time, to be thinking of starting ltrs with women.

I've been close to many women over the past few years. Thing is as, as a guy, ofcourse I am not like other guys, but I feel every woman if Im with her feels she is my equal or some sh1t.

The problem I have is with the marriage system. In the marriage system husband and wife are equal. In the PIMP system the females and the PIMP are not equal.

I just dont want any woman to feel she is my equal if we are together or married, unless she can show she is as above others as I am. But she cannot be. She is only the equal or normie guys.

I need to get into the PIMP/Polygamy Game but these women are too hardwired into the marriage/ltr relationship-means-we-are-equal which cannot be true as none of the women I know have walked the path I walked or can replace with another so wtf is wrong with them and if its not possible to get the correct respect or acknowledgement than maybe relationships with women aint for me.

Also, if a woman wants me to bring her happiness, I should be able to ask for access to her whole bank account in exchange. If a woman wants it all she needs to give it all up. Idk why I feel bad about bringing this up with women in the future. I think its fair, she can take it or leave it.

Keep your money and ego and take your chances out there in normie world or come with me but you have to pay with everything.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE MARRIAGE AND MONOGAMY SYSTEM FIRST CREATED EQUALITY AMONGTS MEN. This hurt the Alpha Males most as it raised betas to higher status. Then women raised themselves above betas.

Now its all ****ed cos no one wants an Alpha male at the top of society, betas more than anything, and I know society is fcked so its all good for me I can watch and be amused at the failure of women and men due to them having egos and not showing respect or acknowledgement to the actual alpha males of society.

This is the dumb sh!t people read about and then try and internalize that ends up fvcking them up.

Listen here is the thing.

Men and women are different and have different strengths and weaknesses. The best matches compliment each other and bring out the strengths in the other person(which are typically weaknesses in their partner) while helping to balance their weaknesses. It has nothing to do with being better or worse than you.

You should be looking for a person who compliments you and balances you as a person while challenging you to improve your the areas that you are weak in. Or is that the real issue? That you are afraid they will see you are a weak man and you want to try and hide from that truth?

Are you really this fragile emotionally and need your ego to be stroked constantly?

You are setting up any relationship with a woman as an adversarial one right off the bat. That is going to get you nowhere. At least nowhere good long term.

No different than good managers looking to hire people who are smarter and better than they are because they know that's how they succeed where weak managers feel threatened by anyone like that and are afraid they will take their job.

You feel threatened by these women because you are afraid they will see thru the facade you have created.

Honestly, sometimes I feel half this board needs to go to therapy to deal with the issues with women they have because it comes from a place of hating them and despising them because of their past traumas.

 

[zekko]

One result of women going to work is that now it (usually) requires two incomes for a couple to live. The cost of living has gone up as the economy has adjusted to this. Of course, more things are now seen as necessities than in simpler times. Like TV cable or streaming sites, computers, cellphones, cell service, internet service, a car for each person instead of one family car, etc.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

While certainly true, it goes BOTH ways.

With female empowerment came male feminization, and the watering down of gender/sex roles both of which one can argue are bringing an ironic imbalance in society and effectively adding up to the vast mental health issues that exist in society today.

I believe we got this whole "equality" thing wrong. The bottom line idea is noble, but the definition and approach are wrong. If we can bring equity into the equation we can start to move progress for both sexes and everything in between.