Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

[self_is_an_illusion]

1. Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

2. If a woman, point blank says, “I’m not having sex with you until X, Y, and Z happens”, what is her medium telling you? That there is a precondition that’s more important to her than fu—cking you with genuine, unconditional passion. You want her to be so into you that she’s willing to break the rules. The ideal situation is for her genuine passion to be so uncontrollable for you that she’d renounce her religion and throw her convictions to the wind to be with you. That might seem a bit dramatic, but you get the idea. The good news now is that she’s being overt, which means she’s exhausted her reserves to be covert and, assuming you’re not so desperate as to delude yourself, you can NEXT her and move on.

- Rollo Tomassi, The Rational Male

Don’t wait, kings. Next.

 

[pipeman84]

Well, it depends. If she's a virgin and the reason she's postponing sex is to get to know me better, then by all means. Yes, we want genuine desire, but also intelligence and self control.
If she's the harridan from this thread and the reason is that she's waiting for the guy to spend $2,000 on her first, then of course, NEXT her.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Why are we reposting Rollo quotes? Pretty much everyone knows them brah.

 

[self_is_an_illusion]

Well, it depends. If she's a virgin and the reason she's postponing sex is to get to know me better, then by all means. Yes, we want genuine desire, but also intelligence and self control.
If she's the harridan from this thread and the reason is that she's waiting for the guy to spend $2,000 on her first, then of course, NEXT her.

I would argue that even virgins that want you bad won’t make you wait.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Well said, when a woman make you wait for sex it means that attraction is low at best but when she is vocal and direct about it she doesnt even respect you as a man.

 

[pipeman84]

I would argue that even virgins that want you bad won’t make you wait.

I don't know why some people equate genuine desire, 'wanting something bad' with being reckless, jumping head first. Oh, if she first wants to know you better, make sure you're for real and not some guy faking it, then it means she doesn't really want you. How do you think she managed to finish high school as a virgin? Because she had enough brains (and probably good upbringing) for instance to meet several times with that jock she was physically attracted to and realize in reality he's an immature, self centered jerk.

 

[Glassguy]

If you have a rotation/other options, let this kind of woman fight for your time.

She will change her tune or go bye bye.

If it's a very high value woman, you might have to put in a little time. 2-4 dates is sufficient. If things aren't sexually progressing by then, time to cut bait and move on.

 

[Hal9000]

It really does depend. I've had women make me wait til the third date, or whatever, and it was totally worth the wait. However if they are making all kinds of demands or making you wait forever it makes the entire thing seem very transactional which eliminates all of the attraction for me. I can assure you that any woman who does this to you has plenty of men out there she would bang, no questions asked, immediately so if you are getting the run around it's a sign of low interest or that they are going to take you for a ride like a chump.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

There is a difference between a woman who is actively engaging you, kissing, touching, and showing active interest but you haven't had sex with yet, and a woman who is cold and will not allow you to escalate in any way. I gauge if I'm going to continue to see the women on her actions, beyond the second date.

It really does depend. I've had women make me wait til the third date, or whatever, and it was totally worth the wait. However if they are making all kinds of demands or making you wait forever it makes the entire thing seem very transactional which eliminates all of the attraction for me. I can assure you that any woman who does this to you has plenty of men out there she would bang, no questions asked, immediately so if you are getting the run around it's a sign of low interest or that they are going to take you for a ride like a chump.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

There is a difference between a woman who is actively engaging you, kissing, touching, and showing active interest but you haven't had sex with yet, and a woman who is cold and will not allow you to escalate in any way. I gauge if I'm going to continue to see the women on her actions, beyond the second date.

Their attitude towards sexting is a big reveal between the two types ime.

 

[9-3enthusiast]

I gauge if I'm going to continue to see the women on her actions, beyond the second date.

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I have a 2nd date on Sunday Night - If it doesn't go the distance that night, then I'll only see her again if I think she's going to come across very soon.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Why is this mind blowing information?

 

[BillyPilgrim]

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I have a 2nd date on Sunday Night - If it doesn't go the distance that night, then I'll only see her again if I think she's going to come across very soon.

Start sexting or sexually flirting over text if you haven't done so yet already. It's a very good litmus test in my experience.

 

[NealIRC]

What if the wait is over and you already scored with other women?

 

[self_is_an_illusion]

Well said, when a woman make you wait for sex it means that attraction is low at best but when she is vocal and direct about it she doesnt even respect you as a man.

Tuff.

 

[The Duke]

Well, it depends. If she's a virgin and the reason she's postponing sex is to get to know me better, then by all means. Yes, we want genuine desire, but also intelligence and self control.
If she's the harridan from this thread and the reason is that she's waiting for the guy to spend $2,000 on her first, then of course, NEXT her.

How many virgins have you fuhked?

 

[BadBoy89]

If a woman, point blank says, “I’m not having sex with you until X, Y, and Z happens”, what is her medium telling you? That there is a precondition that’s more important to her than fu—cking you with genuine, unconditional passion. You want her to be so into you that she’s willing to break the rules. The ideal situation is for her genuine passion to be so uncontrollable for you that she’d renounce her religion and throw her convictions to the wind to be with you. That might seem a bit dramatic, but you get the idea. The good news now is that she’s being overt, which means she’s exhausted her reserves to be covert and, assuming you’re not so desperate as to delude yourself, you can NEXT her and move on.

- Rollo Tomassi, The Rational Male

Give me a break Rollo. Like any man wouldn’t accept those pre conditions IF the girl was under 27 and hot.

Sydney Sweeney “I need 4 dinners and 2 gifts to have sex with you.”
Sosuave members: “Next!!”

Now, if the girl was over 30, then OK, he has the point, But if the girl was under 27 and hot, Sosuave members would fly to Japan to f her, let alone spend on a few dinners,

 

[9-3enthusiast]

Start sexting or sexually flirting over text if you haven't done so yet already. It's a very good litmus test in my experience.

Yep! - Already happening, and she's reciprocating - Seems very keen so far....

Fresh bedding is on standby...

 

[The Duke]

Give me a break Rollo. Like any man wouldn’t accept those pre conditions IF the girl was under 27 and hot.

Sydney Sweeney “I need 4 dinners and 2 gifts to have sex with you.”
Sosuave members: “Next!!”

Now, if the girl was over 30, then OK, he has the point, But if the girl was under 27 and hot, Sosuave members would fly to Japan to f her, let alone spend on a few dinners,

Nah, there are several that wouldn't and have been in that situation and didn't.

 

[Dr.Suave]

If she's a virgin

That´s the only good reason to make a guy wait for sex imho. There was a poster (I cant remember his name) that used to say something along the lines of "Unless she´s a virgin, she has 0.5 seconds to take off her clothes and jump on my d1ck" I love that.