Do You Guys Vet Your potential LTRs Friends?

[soulforge]

Women are designed to follow the strongest frame, they're like that, its not a bug, its a feature. They get so manipulated today cause the lack of masculine men without frame is rampant, and they attach their identities to the strongest frame.

If you have a bunch of masculinize fat lesbians competing against a feminine scrawny thirsty guy, who do you think the woman will attach her identity to?

James Bond will do well in this type of situation.. Or maybe super fvking Alpha Chad.. but you're average kinda guy will never command that unrealistic type of interest level, where she is willing to throw her life long friends away for you. (Especially when she has a less "controling option" available on Instagram.

We need to operate in reality!

 

[soulforge]

I'd like your explanation what are your metrics referring as average.

When majority of men are obese, broke, socially awkward, boring, living lives of quite desperation, feminine, weak minded, its not hard to be above average. In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed guy is king.

I get that... Most dudes are well below average. You happen to be the High Value guy who stands out. However.. when she has 1000+ options available on social media who she perceives, some to be high value.

She is left with a simple choice.

01.Dump her hoe friends who she has known pretty much most of her life.

02.Replace you for being too "controlling" with the next guy, who she also perceives as being the high value guy.

You are also not considering numbers here.. If your girl has low quality female friends, then it's likely the VAST majority of her friends are low quality.

Are you going to convince her to DUMP her entire social circle? Because you think your abit of a bad azz.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

no.

 

[zekko]

I don't vet my LTR's friends. I can't spend my time getting to know all of them, I've got better things to do.

 

[soulforge]

I don't vet my LTR's friends. I can't spend my time getting to know all of them, I've got better things to do.

So you would get into a relationship, six months later realise most her freinds are dirty slvts

 

[Bigpapa]

If she values you, she will dump them, if she doesn't do it, then its a plate. If she says she did it, but then went out with them anyways, you enforce your boundaries by breaking up.

If she likes you enough she will do this on her own, you do not have to tell her anything. Or reduce it extremely much, like close to zero

But yeah, if a woman does not value the time with you and wants to stay as much as possible with you then for sure you should not get into an LTR with that girl

Women have to chase for commitment

As a guy you just have to look that you do not judge her and let her true self be

If you start demanding this or that she might try to hold things from you in the future and this creates mistrust

In all fairness now, even us as guys get tired of even our closest friends if we spend too much time together. Women are the same

 

[zekko]

So you would get into a relationship, six months later realise most her freinds are dirty slvts

Well, to be fair, I'm not talking about a "potential" girlfriend here, I'm talking about my current girlfriend. She has a lot of friends, and there's no way I'm going to try to hang out with all of them. Eff that. Anyway, bottom line is, I would think that if she hung around with mostly dirty hoes, it would eventually reflect in her personality.

 

[Gamisch]

James Bond will do well in this type of situation.. Or maybe super fvking Alpha Chad.. but you're average kinda guy will never command that unrealistic type of interest level, where she is willing to throw her life long friends away for you. (Especially when she has a less "controling option" available on Instagram.

We need to operate in reality!

Well , stupid as it sounds, we DO have to aim to be some james Bond type of super Alpha dude. (In before durr dure alpha doesn't exist!!)

The average man doesn't even has a normal change anymore. And yeah i know yall see " average looking dudes with pretty women every day" but you have NO CLUE if dude is rich, a cuck, if its the honeymoon phase or a dead bedroom ect ect. Things hardly ever are as sweet as they look like to the untrained eye.

You must be the your absolute best version of yourself; attractive to most women and intimidating to most men. Pocket fulll of cash, strong as an ox, and well read and spoken.

If you operate from the "normal" pov and think you'll get away with it you'll get dumped /played over and over and over again. You're basically playing yourself at this point!

I get that... Most dudes are well below average. You happen to be the High Value guy who stands out. However.. when she has 1000+ options available on social media who she perceives, some to be high value.

She is left with a simple choice.

01.Dump her hoe friends who she has known pretty much most of her life.

02.Replace you for being too "controlling" with the next guy, who she also perceives as being the high value guy.

You are also not considering numbers here.. If your girl has low quality female friends, then it's likely the VAST majority of her friends are low quality.

Are you going to convince her to DUMP her entire social circle? Because you think your abit of a bad azz.

Again, the h0e friends aren't even the biggest isseu.

I am from the Caribbean. Not white. My experience the last couple of years has been: EVERY (most) woman I've met :

-traveled to either (south )America or Africa or Australia ALONE.
-some lived there for some time .
-thus ditched their entire social circle to find some exotic Chad/Tyrone
-came back "home" not even less delusional with tons of mileage and notches.
-and they'll ALWAYS have one slvtty friend who they have an "arrangement " with( they don't care about past isseus as much as men do amongst each other!!).

As Coach Greg Adams said: they ALL wanna get throttled in Jamaica . They rather spend money on a trip to find some "super organic Tyrone" than to stay "home with you and build a legacy ". Watch what happens when your "dream girl" gets an invite from a rich Chad asking her to visit him in Aruba...

So yeah, a woman will definitely ditch her circle, her parents ,even her kids. Just NOT FOR "YOU"( not you Soul, but you =all of us,you me ,Gainz , all of us who refuse to see things for what thy really are)

We have to accept this. It's starts to daunt on me more and more, that the world is smaller than ever. Your competitors are Chads and Tyrones from all over the world. All you can and must do is get your fecking money up, become a physical BEAST,be the most stylish dude in town, and learn to obtain the dark traits so you won't ever fall in love and manage to stay in control at any given moment!!

 

[Gamisch]

1. If she doesn't do that, she didn't consider you her best option, you were more into her than she into her
2. Women don't replace what they think is her hypergamy best option

She can have all the orbiters she wants, nothing scares women more than losing what she considers her best option.


That's the wrong approach, if during the early stages, she keeps seeing her friends, partying out, you have an idea what she's like, don't be surprise for the future. If she ask for exclusivity, you lay down your terms, boundaries and enforce them, one of those could be, I don't commit to women who go out with her SLVTY friends to bars. If she values you, she will dump them, if she doesn't do it, then its a plate. If she says she did it, but then went out with them anyways, you enforce your boundaries by breaking up.

She might agree with this TEMPORARILY. 6 months, 1,2 maybe 3 years max. Then she'll get back to her old ways.

Realize this. Its already an accomplishment to make a woman submit like this for a extended period of time, to make her submit for life is nearly impossible, and shouldn't even be your end goal. If it is you'll ALWAYS be left butthurt and in pain...

 

[soulforge]

She might agree with this TEMPORARILY. 6 months, 1,2 maybe 3 years max. Then she'll get back to her old ways.

Realize this. Its already an accomplishment to make a woman submit like this for a extended period of time, to make her submit for life is nearly impossible, and shouldn't even be your end goal. If it is you'll ALWAYS be left butthurt and in pain...

This is the feeling I get.. If she has had these freinds over several years, and is very close to them, to the level that her family members have met her etc & social gatherings etc.. These are pretty deep ties.

Honestly how long is she going to completely ditch/dump them for.

Its possible if she see's you as high value, you could lay down the boundary when the "what are we conversation" happens.

but prepare to be disappointed 8 months down the line when she is hanging with that h0e again.

 

[Gamisch]

This is the feeling I get.. If she has had these freinds over several years, and is very close to them, to the level that her family members have met her etc & social gatherings etc.. These are pretty deep ties.

Honestly how long is she going to completely ditch/dump them for.

Its possible if she see's you as high value, you could lay down the boundary when the "what are we conversation" happens.

but prepare to be disappointed 8 months down the line when she is hanging with that h0e again.

Just remember that, again , SHE'S the one picking the h0e friend. People are seasons. If a person decides to keep one around, better believe there's politics involved.

What I say is similar to the man who tries to delete the man she's cheating with on him. Instead of blaming HER the dude (who might be oblivious to the fact she had a relationship) gets hunted down. Often times the man will eventually "forgive " his cheating wife , and turns his anger towards the man.

She picks out HER OWN GARBAGE FRIENDS. Its pointless to blame her slvtty friend , I'd even say women like this USE the slvtty friend as an excuse to make YOU believe it's "not her fault " entirely..

 

[Bigpapa]

This is the feeling I get.. If she has had these freinds over several years, and is very close to them, to the level that her family members have met her etc & social gatherings etc.. These are pretty deep ties.

Honestly how long is she going to completely ditch/dump them for.

Its possible if she see's you as high value, you could lay down the boundary when the "what are we conversation" happens.

but prepare to be disappointed 8 months down the line when she is hanging with that h0e again.

If you are not sure, keep her as a fwb. That is the right thing to do

She will either start spending less and less time with her friends ( on her own ), either you will find someone better. In both cases, you win

Having discussions about these type of stuff with women never lead anywhere. Actually discussions in general with women rarely go anywhere

 

[zekko]

The average man doesn't even has a normal change anymore. And yeah i know yall see " average looking dudes with pretty women every day" but you have NO CLUE if dude is rich, a cuck, if its the honeymoon phase or a dead bedroom ect ect.

Or she could genuinely be emotionally involved with him. Attractive women are fairly common, at least in a certain age group. From what I see, the reason women stay with a particular guy is that she has formed an emotional attachment to him.

The other thing I would say is (and maybe I'm just speaking for myself here), guys have a hard time seeing what makes another guy appealing to a woman. I know I will hear somebody say some dude is hot or whatever, and I'm like "Whaaaat?". Sometimes you can tell that a guy is hot, and sometimes you can't. They may have more going on for themselves than you think. I've dismissed many guys as average only to find out they attract either a lot of woman or one very hot one. Maybe it's our competitive nature, maybe it's because we're just not wired to be attracted to males ourselves.

 

[soulforge]

Just remember that, again , SHE'S the one picking the h0e friend. People are seasons. If a person decides to keep one around, better believe there's politics involved.

What I say is similar to the man who tries to delete the man she's cheating with on him. Instead of blaming HER the dude (who might be oblivious to the fact she had a relationship) gets hunted down. Often times the man will eventually "forgive " his cheating wife , and turns his anger towards the man.

She picks out HER OWN GARBAGE FRIENDS. Its pointless to blame her slvtty friend , I'd even say women like this USE the slvtty friend as an excuse to make YOU believe it's "not her fault " entirely..

Yes a get out clause... Sorry Soul I didn't want to ride Tyrone's dik, but my 304 freinds encouraged me to do it..

 

[Gamisch]

Or she could genuinely be emotionally involved with him. Attractive women are fairly common, at least in a certain age group. From what I see, the reason women stay with a particular guy is that she has formed an emotional attachment to him.

The other thing I would say is (and maybe I'm just speaking for myself here), guys have a hard time seeing what makes another guy appealing to a woman. I know I will hear somebody say some dude is hot or whatever, and I'm like "Whaaaat?". Sometimes you can tell that a guy is hot, and sometimes you can't. They may have more going on for themselves than you think. I've dismissed many guys as average only to find out they attract either a lot of woman or one very hot one. Maybe it's our competitive nature, maybe it's because we're just not wired to be attracted to males ourselves.

I agree

I am just saying that it always one moment in time . I've been that dude 100s of times, walking around with a woman while.any other man might've felt like you described about ME.

At the end of the day it all doesn't matter if ,lets say she strays after 5 years. 5 years the neighborhood felt like wtf this Gamisch dude got it GOING ON,yet one moment of misery is enough to completely shatter a relationship.

 

[zekko]

At the end of the day it all doesn't matter if ,lets say she strays after 5 years. 5 years the neighborhood felt like wtf this Gamisch dude got it GOING ON,yet one moment of misery is enough to completely shatter a relationship.

Yeah really, five years is a pretty good run. Few things last forever, and most relationships have a shelf life.
The only real disaster is if you got married with kids and then get taken to the cleaners by the court.

 

[soulforge]

Yeah really, five years is a pretty good run. Few things last forever, and most relationships have a shelf life.
The only real disaster is if you got married with kids and then get taken to the cleaners by the court.

Yeh if you didn't have kids with her, your pretty much got our clean!