Beware the attention *****, the female equivalent of creepiness (story time)

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I would've ignored her until she approached me, but I don't go to gyms.
I don't approach women. They tend to approach me, but I'm not that interested. I have sex on a regular basis with several women, so I'm not looking for more.
And here is the part, you don't even go to the damn gym and probably have no idea wtf I'm even talking about lol. You've probably never seen what gym thot behavior is even like. Do you have any clue as to what I'm discussing here?
 

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Bro.......wtf are you talking about? This woman did NOT have a boyfriend and was interested in using me for validation and attention. Do you not understand what attention whoring is? Have you never experienced it?
You don't have to get so defensive.
IF she was only interested in validation and attention, why did you validate her with your attention? Maybe it's you who does not understand how to deal with attention wh0res?

You should also factor in that this is coming from a white man that is 6'4", 235 and one of the fittest guys you'd see at any gym. If a guy like me has had bad experiences in a gym environment that should say a lot, unless of course I was just incredibly unlucky.
If this is true, you're not 'unlucky'. If you're such an Adonis, the story fits quite well. She expressed interest in your appearance, but the moment you opened your mouth she back-pedalled.
Guess you have to work on your verbal game and your vibe, because you should be able to slay all these attention wh0res, whether they have a boyfriend or not. It sure won't be your appearance that messes it up.
 
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So, I meant ask for her number.
From a tactic standpoint, this is a weaker approach than asking for the date, then collecting her number after arranging the date. There's no need to get a number without an arranged date.

As for the interactions. It included her going out of her way to say hi and bye to me but also approaching me and having actual conversations with me. Stuff like approaching me and saying "Hey, how's it going" and then proceeding to have a conversation with me while smiling the entire time. This is NOT an environment where there was any need for further interaction, this was a very large commercial gym with tons of space and equipment. We were NOT friends, acquaintances, coworkers, classmates, etc. This was a woman that was going OUT of her way to interact with me and encourage me to interact with her. The simple answer is because she liked the attention, how do you guys not understand this?
These are relevant details. It is good you are re-stating them.

this thread should be a warning of the issues of approaching in a gym environment and how to spot the signs of attention whoring from creepy inconsiderate women there with poor social skills.
Yes, makes sense.

Maybe it's you who does not understand how to deal with attention *****s?
Seems like he learned how to deal with attention whorres 5 years after this incident.
 

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And here is the part, you don't even go to the damn gym and probably have no idea wtf I'm even talking about lol. You've probably never seen what gym thot behavior is even like. Do you have any clue as to what I'm discussing here?
The fact that I don't go to gyms filled with vain attention seekers doesn't mean I haven't ever been to a gym. I'm not interested in people who care mostly about their physiques. I prefer to exercise in the open air.
 

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I've had several gym approaches and literally none of them amounted to anything and all but 1 actually turned out to be terrible experiences for me.
Maybe gym approaches are just not your forte...
 

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You clearly don't understand what the hell is even being discussed. I see you are in Amsterdam, so I'm going to logically assume that English is not your first language and thus why you may be struggling to fully understand what I'm writing about on here.
You didn't read my signature, did you? Your prose is not so complicated, even if your delivery is muddled. I won't go into the spelling and grammar, but you may want to sue your educators.

Enjoy the gym.
 

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If you don't believe the boyfriend was real, deploying a boyfriend destroyer would have been applicable. Boyfriend destroyer lines are meant to call out women for the phony boyfriend excuse or show that you have objectively higher value than a real boyfriend. At 6'4" and 220+ with big muscles, you have that going for you.



It is surprising that you aren't a top seducer at the gym as a 6'4", 235 lbs fit guy with big muscles. The more average height guy and average-slightly above average size muscle guy is likely having challenges capturing attention at the gym.

I've noticed a few "gym thots" at my gym. I've seen women at my gym who were top 5% fitness gals taking pics and video for Instagram while in the free weights/barbells section of my gym. All the "gym thot" women have dressed seductively too while taking their pics and video for Instagram and possibly even OnlyFans.
There are a ton of gym thots in my area and I've noticed it's a trend become increasingly more and more common over the last 5 years. I don't think these people on here have ever actually seen this for themselves or been around it lol. You are totally correct about the way they dress, some of them wear gym attire that is incredibly revealing and it's clearly a means to garner as much attention as possible. As for the pics they take, it's a ton of gym selfies for the most part and stuff that borders on pornography lol. I'm talking like where they set up a video camera and will record themselves doing a squat but from a view where you see nothing but their back end lol. I've seen this stuff on their instagram profiles but I'm not 100% sure if they also use OnlyFans but I suspect something along those lines may be correct.

There are a lot of these women I see semi regularly, so I recognize who they are, that are in their early to mid 20s and yet have very expensive outfits, jewelry, trips, that they'll post on their social media. I know for a fact these women aren't able to afford this on their own so it's totally believable they have a sugar daddy, OnlyFans, etc. In fact, there is actually one gym thot that I knew of from a few years back that had a profile on seekingarrangements lol.

With all of this out of the way. These women are displaying all of the traits of being attention seekers. Some of them do this more indirectly through social media but others are actively going OUT of their way to troll men. One interesting trend I've noticed though is that all of these women seem to be perpetually single OR bounce from one relationship to the next. These are the worst types of women to have the misfortune of crossing paths with and they should be avoided as much as possible.
 

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Maybe her train of thought was for her to be your gym friend? Make you her orbiter? or have the privileged of both of you flirting with one another without any commitment nor s*x? Maybe a more nonchalant approach would have worked. Maybe she would have dropped her boyfriend for you if you played your cards right. Who knows, but in reality, the hit rate of dating medium to low interest girls is really low.

I knew someone that was able to date a gym girl around 2015. It started with smaller comvos, to them playing ping pong with us in the rec room, to him being able to take her out. It did take awhile to get to this stage, and I guess it helped he had a nice BMW, but since the girl was friendly, not cold, and not distant with everyone, anyone with enough game could have bang her.
 

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I noticed a trend with guys who don't get any or are desperate.. they see or think that girls like them with basic interaction. Why? because they'r enot used to much of any interaction with women to begin with.. SO they take small tlak and hi's and hello's to be more than what it is.. Its sad.. but it happens.
I see this all the time:
"The cute cashier flirted with me, can I ask her number?"
"I met a cutie with her dog and I spoke with her about my dog and she flirted back and then I asked for her number and she IHABed me."
"The cute blonde Flight Attendant who serviced me all during the flight flirted with me when I left the plane (she smiled widely and hoped I had a great flight!) and suddenly ignored me when I asked for her number, I've never been so humiliated!"

Being that we're on SoSuave, that makes much more sense than to think this girl was attention whoring him lmao.. Real attention *****s will lead a guy on till no tomorrow.. The final BYEEEEEEE says it all. and now she avoid shim like the plague. EVERYTHING you need to know about this situation is RIGHT THERE for you to read.
Another problem is that many of these people have such a rigid mindset that the only feedback they want is the one that confirms their bias, and their victimhood (bad women!). The ability to read people is important in any type of persuasion, whether it's seduction or sales, and these people don't learn from making the wrong approaches or approaching the wrong people.

Funny thing is that it's probably an 'age' thing as I see the same in women getting rebuffed - the cluelessness.
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Maybe her train of thought was for her to be your gym friend? Make you her orbiter? or have the privileged of both of you flirting with one another without any commitment nor s*x? Maybe a more nonchalant approach would have worked. Maybe she would have dropped her boyfriend for you if you played your cards right. Who knows, but in reality, the hit rate of dating medium to low interest girls is really low.

I knew someone that was able to date a gym girl around 2015. It started with smaller comvos, to them playing ping pong with us in the rec room, to him being able to take her out. It did take awhile to get to this stage, and I guess it helped he had a nice BMW, but since the girl was friendly, not cold, and not distant with everyone, anyone with enough game could have bang her.
This one I'm positive was an attention seeker. I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but a couple months after I stopped talking to her this other guy from the gym came over to me and asked me about her, as he had seen us talking before. Anyway, he then said that she did something similar with him. I'm sure that this woman probably behaved in a similar manner with any man that approached her at the gym.

I believe that the gym environment can be a problematic one for both parties if things line up in a strange way, like with my story. It's an environment where most of the people there are familiar strangers, meaning you recognize their faces but you don't really know them. You are highly likely to run into these people repetitively, so there is the possibility of awkwardness for sure.

In my honest opinion, there is nothing wrong with approaching in the gym but there needs to be some clear boundaries. If you approach a woman and she says "I have a boyfriend" and say "Nice to meet you" and go about your day that should be the end of the interaction. There is no further need for interaction at that point and there is nothing awkward about it. However, it becomes awkward when the woman starts behaving in a manner where she is not only encouraging further interaction but actively creating it.

Something else is that many women at the gym are attention seekers. Anyone that goes to the gym knows exactly what I'm talking about, @SW15 is quite aware of what I was discussing earlier. These women are addicted to attention and the gym environment is the perfect way to gain orbiters. They can reject you but still have you around for attention where they feel comfortable in a non isolated environment.

To sum up what I'm saying, I don't think the gym environment is a great way to meet women and there is a degree of potential for it to backfire on you.
 
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That just tells you, that you are social awkward, you're pretty much what people refer as a gymcel, the moment you open your mouth, you're toast. Talking requires skills too, just like muscles. I imagine you're one of the guys when people make fun of you accusing of steroids and you get all butthurt and try to explain whether you're natural or not.
I'm not on steroids lol. Also, if anyone has read my replies on here, as well as with many of my other threads, it's obvious I have good writing skills and can communicate my ideas and thoughts well.

BTW, did you miss the part where I said this was from 2018?
 

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If you approach a woman and she says "I have a boyfriend" and say "Nice to meet you" and go about your day that should be the end of the interaction. There is no further need for interaction at that point and there is nothing awkward about it. However, it becomes awkward when the woman starts behaving in a manner where she is not only encouraging further interaction but actively creating it.
Because, why would a woman want to interact with a man if it's not about sex and romance?

Women wanting to be friends with men? It boggles the mind.
 

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What will I do with my life now....
At least he told you lol.

Told yall this lil b1tch will ignore me haha. Its oke.

This man is proof that you can be a 6,4 gaint, but it just makes you a giant p00sy who doesn't get any p00sy.

This man is clearly on the spectrum, and seemingly has monologues rather than trying to get actual advice from fellow men.. Every thread he makes he ends up puttung people on his ignore list. Must be crowded up in there

I love this!

*MJ popcorn gif*
 

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I've had several gym approaches and literally none of them amounted to anything and all but 1 actually turned out to be terrible experiences for me. The one that was not a bad experience was a brief interaction that didn't play out that well and I immediately ejected myself, this in 2017. This woman afterwards would stare at me blatantly to get my attention like she wanted me to approach, I'm talking like I'm standing someplace and she is making direct eye contact with me from not that far away. I just ignored it because I was not interested in being strung along.

All of the other situations though involved women that were going out of their way to lead me on, flirt, talk to me, ask me out, etc.

I think the problem with the gym environment though is the possibility of running into them semi regularly and it turning into an awkward scenario. What I ended up learning from my experience is that the gym environment is a terrible place to try to approach or meet women.

You should also factor in that this is coming from a white man that is 6'4", 235 and one of the fittest guys you'd see at any gym. If a guy like me has had bad experiences in a gym environment that should say a lot, unless of course I was just incredibly unlucky.

The gym environment, especially more recently, is filled with "gym thots" that are obsessed with instagram. These women have programmed themselves to seek as much attention as possible. This should definitely be on your mind whenever approaching in the gym.

It depends what type of guy you are

Most guys are pretty bland and awkward I mean just this Weekend a girl was telling me how a guy approached her in the gym ( WHILST SHE WAS RUNNING ON THE TREADMILL ) made her stop her exercise and asked if she was South American

( we live in Britain there are very very few South Americans here)

she said no and apparently he asked if she was sure ....., she said no again and he just wondered off

I mean this is the social equivalent of taking a shotgun out and blowing your own leg off

The worst thing is the girl said she found him moderately attractive but after the encounter she just completely turned off him

An environment like the gym really is like a chessboard , if your going to make a move make sure you know your next one and try too guess your opponents too
 

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I dated many truly fit athletic women throughout my life (most of them flexible rope bunnies). None of them I met in a gym, but they all went to the gym 2-6 times a week. ALL of them complained about guys approaching them, even when they were wearing headphones and busy exercising. Half of them enjoyed the lecherous stares from the men in the gym and they liked to watch some of the more handsome muscular men, but none of them were interested sexually in these men.
 

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It depends what type of guy you are

Most guys are pretty bland and awkward I mean just this Weekend a girl was telling me how a guy approached her in the gym ( WHILST SHE WAS RUNNING ON THE TREADMILL ) made her stop her exercise and asked if she was South American

( we live in Britain there are very very few South Americans here)

she said no and apparently he asked if she was sure ....., she said no again and he just wondered off

I mean this is the social equivalent of taking a shotgun out and blowing your own leg off

The worst thing is the girl said she found him moderately attractive but after the encounter she just completely turned off him

An environment like the gym really is like a chessboard , if your going to make a move make sure you know your next one and try too guess your opponents too
He might not have even been interested in her and was just asking a question out of curiosity. Him opening a conversation with her whilst she is running on the treadmill is definitely strange though, as it shows a lack of gym etiquette. Gym floor approaches should be when someone is NOT in the middle of exercising or doing something very passive, like if they were casually walking on the treadmill, pedaling on a bike, etc.

Going back to that specific interaction, it sounds like it was incredibly brief and he just went about his day. It's totally possible he might have just been walking by, noticed her and spontaneously decided to ask her that question. I really don't think that interaction was really that big of a deal, as it was very brief and a slight annoyance for her that she quickly was ejected from.

The story I talked about with this thread is the last time I ever approached or talked to a woman at the gym. I'm naturally disregarding staff that work there or interactions like "How many sets do you have left?" or "Would I be in your way if I'm working here?", stuff like that. If I ever see a woman try to make extended eye contact with me or stare at me I completely ignore it. One, I'm not interested in being strung along again for attention and I also don't want to compromise an environment that I regularly frequent and enjoy.
 
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It's hilarious reading back some of the posts on this. What world are you guys living on where this isn't attention whoring behavior lol?
 
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