Invites me out often, sleeps with me on my bed to cuddle, gives me hickeys, but won't kiss me on the lips?

[Millard Fillmore]

Be nice, he's a newbie

Wasn't ripping him, the guy knows his sh*t

 

[Barrister]

How traditional is her family? I think @Pierce.Manhammer is right you may be dealing with some cultural blockades here.

Probably not what it is, but I have had some girls who have STDs do weird pull backs before. If she felt like she may have a herpes outbreak coming on it may explain why she was avoiding your lips.

 

[Solomon]

I used to have sex with this muslim girl who was betrothed to some guy in her own country. No PIV intercourse, but anal and oral, because she had to remain a virgin. She enjoyed fellatio and irrumatio but not French kissing, because that was 'too intimate' and she was afraid she'd fall in love with me. She craved rough sex, because she expected gentle intimacy from her future husband.

 

[Solomon]

This is why I laugh hard at the "she has to be a virgin" trope.

So many Redpill noobs and incels really think they will find their perfect "virgin 10" a lot of cope and delusion this is the same as women looking for a 6 foot, 6 figure, 6 series driving, 6 pack alpha Chad or Tyrone who is gonna wife them

Delusion

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Probably not what it is, but I have had some girls who have STDs do weird pull backs before. If she felt like she may have a herpes outbreak coming on it may explain why she was avoiding your lips.

Good point.

 

[Dr.Suave]

This is why I laugh hard at the "she has to be a virgin" trope.

That´s fair. I would still consider a girl like Amsterdam Assassins´s muslim girl for marriage in a serious way but that´s just me.

 

[Dr.Suave]

"Virgin 10"

A virgin girl who is a dime? That´s like 0.001% and a girl like that is going to have an insane abundance of options. And she would be very young, like @BeExcellent lost her v-card at 20 if Im not mistaken

 

[corrector]

That´s fair. I would still consider a girl like Amsterdam Assassins´s muslim girl for marriage in a serious way but that´s just me.

This could be another JBW hor thing for those types. You sure about that? There is allot of hardcore porn on even that niche (lbfm, which I dont look at). Makes you think twice.

 

[Gamisch]

A virgin girl who is a dime? That´s like 0.001% and a girl like that is going to have an insane abundance of options

That girl is literally worth billions of dollars.

 

[corrector]

Yeah, some serious lbfm sh1t.

 

[Dr.Suave]

You sure about that?

If I didnt have better options, yeah, I would consider her for marriage. Not necessarily go through with it.

 

[Dr.Suave]

That girl is literally worth billions of dollars.

And the other thing is she would be very young, like BeExcellet lost her v-card at 20 if Im not mistaken

 

[corrector]

If I didnt have better options, yeah, I would consider her for marriage. Not necessarily go through with it.

Fair enough.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Annecdotally, I also saw a muslim girl about 10 years ago. We did everything. However, when I was going to put it in she put her hand like a fist below her vagina, as in she wanted me f*** her fist. I am not sure if she was a virgin but that's their mentality I guess.

Needless to say I ghosted her after that.

 

[Smok1nAce]

whole thread can be summed up to....dont stick you d1ck in crazy.

 

[itouchyou]

Can't speak for anyone else, but for hookups I don't kiss on the mouth. To me that's more intimate than anything else, maybe that's her issue.

Found out a good friend of mine was the same way.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Can't speak for anyone else, but for hookups I don't kiss on the mouth. To me that's more intimate than anything else, maybe that's her issue.

Found out a good friend of mine was the same way.

I find this hard to believe lol

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Annecdotally, I also saw a muslim girl about 10 years ago. We did everything. However, when I was going to put it in she put her hand like a fist below her vagina, as in she wanted me f*** her fist. I am not sure if she was a virgin but that's their mentality I guess.

You should've taken her oral exam. Roosters are still halal.

 

[CyrusTheGreat]

@mrmars most guys here aren't familiar with the culture. Like most middle Eastern girls, Iranian girls take a bit of time to warm up specially if they are virgin. Given that she is born and raised in London, being virgin is unlikely. Sometimes they like to play hard to get even if they've lost the v card.

Overall, if this was a 100% western chick, I would have said she is totally playing you. But considering her background, I'd say it's 50-50. She may be testing your commitment or might just be playing you.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Given personal experience. I can tell you that the likelihood is higher than many here would claim, that she is highly inexperienced in sex if not a virgin. That’s all I’m going to say.