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You are going in the direction that I was trying to explain to the other poster.Disclaimer: The below was derived from my experience alone. It may differ to most men's.
Rainman4707 - The more experienced and wild a woman is in bed, the less LTR/wife material she is.
50-60 years ago sex was supposedly this thing that couples did behind closed doors, not very often. It wasn't done that much outside a serious relationship. It wasn't talked about a lot, it wasn't advertised everywhere. Thus it had value.
A quality woman respects it, doesn't do it a lot (only at the perfect times), and is even a bit intimidated by it. The problem is that we as men crave the opposite, and are bombarded with it and brainwashed from MSM and porn.
And thus we are not attracted to/satisfied by quality women, because we are constantly craving a lot of s*x.
I uploaded this random attractive woman from a search, first one I saw.
So, let's say you are making out with this woman. You then fondle her breasts, then slip your hand underneath her top and continue doing so. You then take her top off and suck on them. Then you take her pants off after caressing her legs, then her panties, etc. before proceeding to have sex with her from a variety of positions. If you feel the need for her to do this weird butt play stuff something is ****ing wrong there. You shouldn't need to do this really weird stuff that you only see in more extreme porn videos.
Here is the thing, I believe that many people, both men and women but more so men, have been overexposed to porn over the last couple decades. Years and years ago looking at a picture of an attractive woman in a top or even nude was more than enough to get aroused. Now, given the sheer access of porn this simply loses it's novelty and you begin to start looking into more extreme stuff to have the same feelings of pleasure/enjoyment.
Seriously, the fact that some guys on here are actually asking women to do this to them is ****ing weird lol. I'd also be kind of concerned if a woman was totally down for something like that, as she's definitely done stuff like that before and to me that is a red flag for multiple reasons. In fact, even just thinking about a woman having most likely done this stuff before with another man is an immediate turn off and honestly disgusting.
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