Good sex, disrespectful wife and child

Aralius

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Hey guys.

I've been in a 13 year LTR, of which 7 years married, 4yo boy.
It's been a year or so since I started reading RP material. NMMNG, WISNIFG, Sex God method, The Rational Male for the sole reason return to the good old days when my wife initiated sex.
Problem is, after getting sexlife "sorted out" she still name calls me, like she did since we met.
Biggest problem is that the kid learned to name call me and others, just like my wife does (idiot, stupid, retard etc.) whenever he acts bratty or gets into an argument with other children.
I keep explaining to him why it's wrong to talk like that but it all for nothing because the wife keeps talking like this all the time.
I feel like **** when my kid is calling me names in public.
I guess this is just a vent, but I'm curios if any of you went through the same thing and how you dealt with it.
 

soulforge

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Hey guys.

I've been in a 13 year LTR, of which 7 years married, 4yo boy.
It's been a year or so since I started reading RP material. NMMNG, WISNIFG, Sex God method, The Rational Male for the sole reason return to the good old days when my wife initiated sex.
Problem is, after getting sexlife "sorted out" she still name calls me, like she did since we met.
Biggest problem is that the kid learned to name call me and others, just like my wife does (idiot, stupid, retard etc.) whenever he acts bratty or gets into an argument with other children.
I keep explaining to him why it's wrong to talk like that but it all for nothing because the wife keeps talking like this all the time.
I feel like **** when my kid is calling me names in public.
I guess this is just a vent, but I'm curios if any of you went through the same thing and how you dealt with it.
Dude your wife calls you Idiot, Stupid, Retard?

Are you serious. How the fuk did things get this disrespectful in the first place. Did you not check her on this?

Me personally.. any chick calls me names like that once, I would check her on it... If it happened a second time? You bet your azz I would be showing her the door.

I know its complex with kids involved, but this level of disrespect started when you met.

Question is why did you stick around for this crap and put a kid inside her?
 

soulforge

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He is married with kids, so simply Walking out isn't the solution in his case.

But OP must have turned a blind to obvious diar from his wife from day one
 

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Oh hells no..she's been calling you these names since you first started dating? The hell you stay with her for? And now your four year old son is doin it? No no no.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Hey guys.

I've been in a 13 year LTR, of which 7 years married, 4yo boy.
It's been a year or so since I started reading RP material. NMMNG, WISNIFG, Sex God method, The Rational Male for the sole reason return to the good old days when my wife initiated sex.
Problem is, after getting sexlife "sorted out" she still name calls me, like she did since we met.
Biggest problem is that the kid learned to name call me and others, just like my wife does (idiot, stupid, retard etc.) whenever he acts bratty or gets into an argument with other children.
I keep explaining to him why it's wrong to talk like that but it all for nothing because the wife keeps talking like this all the time.
I feel like **** when my kid is calling me names in public.
I guess this is just a vent, but I'm curios if any of you went through the same thing and how you dealt with it.
Respect has been lost long time ago my friend.

You have a-lot of work to do, when your wife calls you stupid or retard and you don't check her on that you act like a little b1tch.

Now you have turned your kid into one since hi is mirroring the actions of her mother. Not sure what is your experience but you seem like a guy that has no clue.

Man up, tell her to respect you or file for divorce and leave.
 

Manure Spherian

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Hey guys.

I've been in a 13 year LTR, of which 7 years married, 4yo boy.
It's been a year or so since I started reading RP material. NMMNG, WISNIFG, Sex God method, The Rational Male for the sole reason return to the good old days when my wife initiated sex.
Problem is, after getting sexlife "sorted out" she still name calls me, like she did since we met.
Biggest problem is that the kid learned to name call me and others, just like my wife does (idiot, stupid, retard etc.) whenever he acts bratty or gets into an argument with other children.
I keep explaining to him why it's wrong to talk like that but it all for nothing because the wife keeps talking like this all the time.
I feel like **** when my kid is calling me names in public.
I guess this is just a vent, but I'm curios if any of you went through the same thing and how you dealt with it.
You have not mentioned anything about you assessing your wife’s behavior. Have you ever dealt with this head on with her?

In the first year of our relationship, before marriage, my wife was excessively critical of me. I tolerated it for a short while, but after that, I kept repeating, “It appears we’re not a good fit,” “it appears we’re incompatible,” or, “you’re free to go,” all of which conveyed the notion that if bad treatment continued the relationship would end.

We once got into a serious problem in our marriage, and I kept repeating, "this is headed in a bad direction. We are headed for a serious problem." I also stated, with no yelling, but firmly, what I will not tolerate. Quickly things improved and I consider our marriage a very good one now. We have children, so I was not weighing the matter lightly.

I will not give advice to strangers. However, I will give non-specific input for any man in such a situation. A man needs to firmly state what he will not put up and act accordingly. And from reading NMMNG, a book I read twice, once in the aughts, and anther go this year, you should be familiar with this.

I believe divorce is terrible for children, and for middle-class men it can be very expensive. So someone will wind up poor. I think it should be a last resort for unbearable situations. As I said, I won't give advice but I know what I would do in such a situation. I repeat, this is what I would do; it's not advice and I'm only offering my take on the matter for perspective.

1. State my problem and see if she understands it. And yes, I'd let her know how angry I am. You can simply say what will be the consequences of continued disrespect.
2. If she expressed understanding and respected me, both of us would inform the child that name calling parents is bad and must end, and follow through with disciplinary action if it is done again.

If that did not work, and the problem continued and I kept being emotionally abused, I would move onto other steps.

1. Inform my woman that I will no longer stand for this and because I want to salvage the marriage, I shall remain in the home, but lead a separate life, but with no intention of cheating or seeking other women. Aside form being there for taking care of children (family dinner, education, recreation, helping them with whatever else, showing love), I would come and go as I please. Kids are asleep or with in-laws? OK, see ya.
2. No sex, no affection.
3. Communicate in a respectful manner and keep a peaceful home for the children. When children are not present, communicate on a need-to-know basis.
4. Cease going to all social events as a couple, including those with in-laws.
5. Stop having my checks go to a joint account.

If someone does not shape up after that, then there is a serious, unmanageable problem. I have not done the above, but that would be my way of dealing with an out-of-hand situation.

Of course I would not resort to such measures if a situation was not extreme. And I don't know how bad your situation is. But I believe one should keep upping the ante until a problem is solved, and mean business when dealing with abuse of any sort, emotional or physical.

I even did this with a manager who was mistreating me. I said, "Here's the deal: you fire me or I quit on you, whichever comes first! I am not going to be jammed up in this stupid situation." I never had a problem at that job since staying that.
 

AmsterdamAssassin

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Problem is, after getting sexlife "sorted out" she still name calls me, like she did since we met.
And you still had kids with this woman? I'm sorry, but were you so hard up that you mated with a disrespectful partner? That shows (not just to her) that you don't respect yourself. You should've put your foot down earlier, but perhaps you can still recuperate and make her respect you, but you really have to 'man up' and not allow people to disrespect you without consequences.

Biggest problem is that the kid learned to name call me and others, just like my wife does (idiot, stupid, retard etc.) whenever he acts bratty or gets into an argument with other children.
Yes, children will copy their role models. Again, because you didn't put a stop to this right at the beginning, you will have an uphill battle to correct this. You may try the Rights - Duties - Privileges approach

I guess this is just a vent, but I'm curios if any of you went through the same thing and how you dealt with it.
I never allowed myself to be used as a doormat, but I have counselled people in abusive relationships. You may not feel abused, but If your wife and kid treat you like a retard, you are a doormat and you need to establish some boundaries to prevent people from walking all over you.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

ThisIsSparta

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Hey guys.

I've been in a 13 year LTR, of which 7 years married, 4yo boy.
It's been a year or so since I started reading RP material. NMMNG, WISNIFG, Sex God method, The Rational Male for the sole reason return to the good old days when my wife initiated sex.
Problem is, after getting sexlife "sorted out" she still name calls me, like she did since we met.
Biggest problem is that the kid learned to name call me and others, just like my wife does (idiot, stupid, retard etc.) whenever he acts bratty or gets into an argument with other children.
I keep explaining to him why it's wrong to talk like that but it all for nothing because the wife keeps talking like this all the time.
I feel like **** when my kid is calling me names in public.
I guess this is just a vent, but I'm curios if any of you went through the same thing and how you dealt with it.
There is no easy way out. As it seems, she either never had any respect for you or is just low class trash that belongs to the streets.

You are at a point where you need to make a decision for the sake of your kid. If you let this level of disrespect continue, your kind will end up as the same pile of trash his mother is and could end up in jail sooner or later due to a lack of a strong fatherly role model in his life.

YOU are personally responsible for your boy to learn what it means to respect someone. How are you going to teach that boy ANY values at all if he thinks you are an idiot?

For the sake of your boys future, you CANT tolerate that level of disrespect any longer.

Look that biatch of a woman in the eye and tell her this **** stops or you are checking out of this relationship.

Make no mistake, you NEED TO MEAN IT and follow through if neccessary!

If you cant walk away right now, get yourself in a position where you can walk away at any point BEFORE you escalate with that biatch.

Otherwise she will call your bluff and lose even more respect if there is any left.

Talk to a lawyer about an exit scenario, get your finances together, have a plan B so you wont be homeless and can continue life.

It is better to walk away with dignity then your kid seeing you as his wifes doormat for the next 15 years.



In the first year of our relationship, before marriage, my wife was excessively critical of me. I tolerated it for a short while, but after that, I kept repeating, “It appears we’re not a good fit,” “it appears we’re incompatible,” or, “you’re free to go,” all of which conveyed the notion that if bad treatment continued the relationship would end.
I was there man, bluepilled AF and had to learn my lesson the hard way.

My wife turned int a harpy when our kid was born. My life turned into hell for 1,5 years untill i managed to overcome her. The last 4 years have been way better and stable, while it is still a fight to keep her in line.
I dont think you will ever get this behaviour completely out of a woman. The best thing is to keep her in check for as long as it takes.

How did you fare after you sorted things out? How are your kids holding up in this environment? Are they on anyones side?

In my marriage i totally see that my wife is trying hard to take every decision from me that she can get away with. Choosing a school over the one that i would have wanted for example.

In my oppinion, for the first years mommy is everything for kids. What i am trying to work out now is, when will the boy(6) stop being mommys boy and how can i get him on my side.

Any suggestions/experiences?
 

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Problem is, after getting sexlife "sorted out" she still name calls me, like she did since we met.
Wait...she's been calling you names since you met and you still decided to wife her up?? Why???

I don't know if this situation is salvageable. She's been sh!tting all over you for 13 years with no repercussion. Psychologically, it's going to be very difficult for her to start respecting you at this point. You can try pushing back hard (but without physical violence) and telling her that if she keeps talking to you this way, she will be a single mom sifting through d!ck pics in her DMs. However, you have to be prepared to actually walk away if this doesn't work. No self-respecting man should ever tolerate this kind of abuse.
 
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Because I had no self respect.
Will be very difficult to take the masculine role in this relationship again.

You thought about putting this bich in a headlock? Nah joking don't do that lol

Anyway I heard you mention that you have been getting the sex life right and on track etc?

Could it be that you prioritised sex over maintaining boundaries in the relationship?
 

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Because I had no self respect.
Clearly, but how do you think you can shift from doormat to the Man she needs some discipline from?
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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