Off My Chest: Old One-Itis Returned To Life, Third Wheeling? Now What?

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You know what doesn't feel right? (And I'm guessing that OP feels the same);

At very least let "that woman " be one you sleep or slept with. It's doesn't feels good when the love of your life was a woman who always kept you in the fiendzome while she got passed around by everyone and his brother(literally).

I know you are compassionate, bu I'm just saying.
The "love of your life" being a woman you never slept with? How does that make sense? That is something a guy who is fully plugged in would say. And I know you aren't blue pilled - nor is the OP. I don't think that has any application here.

If someone does feel that way, they need to be introduced to this site ASAP and told to seek other women to dispel such a silly notion.
 

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You are each other´s emotional tampon, except your are getting the bad end of the deal anyways because you want to f0ck her.

Man up and go no contact bro. If you want an emotional tampon, find a female friend who doesnt pass the boner test.
 

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The "love of your life" being a woman you never slept with? How does that make sense? That is something a guy who is fully plugged in would say. And I know you aren't blue pilled - nor is the OP. I don't think that has any application here.

If someone does feel that way, they need to be introduced to this site ASAP and told to seek other women to dispel such a silly notion.
edit; perhaps i misread something? Please correct me if I'm wromg brothers!

I might be wrong obviously, but it feels like this woman has been special to Op for many ,many years. And we all had a crush left and right BUT at some point you got to say NO MAS to having crushes or as @BackInTheGame78 recently said: a delusion-ship.

Perhaps I'm just being cranky due to trying to do too much at once quiting fappin,quitting smoking, working 2 jobs ect. It all just sounds pathetic and actually makes me blood boil.

A woman putting me in the friendzoned while fecking everything that has a weenie in front of me...would anger me enough to start mma and become a bodybuilder haha.

For real. A woman you never slept with HARDLY ever deserves a thread, although I understand OPs need to both vent and secondly get some feedback. Unfortunately i can't feel anything but sadness and anger, and i HOPE the OP feels the same and manages to use this anger as fuel.


No man , no aspiring dj should have to face this kinda shyte.
 

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Long and emotional post!!!


Yo, my SS Family. Hopefully you won’t flame me too bad for this one lol. I got invited out for some drinks yesterday, and this re-ignited a whole host of issues that I’ve ran into in the past. I’ve discussed some of this with other members before, but I thought I’d make this an open discussion because I need some guidance. I’m going to be completely open and honest with how I feel about this situation, so don’t flame me too bad lol.

So I’ve told this story probably a million times. I used to play in a band, got very close with the female singer. Couldn’t make any romantic moves on her because she was in a multi-year LTR.

At one point, we fell out of touch. (I later learned that this was because of her controlling husband.) She was going through some very tough times, so she reached out to me and I took her under my wing. Eventually, she ended up going through a divorce.

Once some time had passed, I knew that if I didn’t escalate on her, I’d be kicking myself. So I made a move, but I was rejected and placed in the friendzone basically lol. The whole, “It would ruin our friendship” BS rejection. Even so, I still remained in touch with her.

The reason I did this was, it’s very nice to have a friend that I can lean on for emotional support, it really helps me out with how brutal/tough life is these days. It’s nice to be able to talk about deep emotional sh*t without being judged, call when anything good or bad happens, or to hash it out with someone when I’m going insane from the 60-65 hour workweeks lol. So in a strange kind of way, this relationship is filling an emotional void that I feel, I think. And as much as I love my game friends, it can be extremely refreshing to talk to my non-game friends too.

Since that divorce, and around the time I got rejected, she’s been going on an absolute rampage. If I had to estimate, I’d say that she’s been with 10-12 different guys since that divorce?

The main reason I’m making this thread is, my other close male friend invited me out for gin last night(which was exactly what I needed after last week’s crazy ass workweek.) While we were chilling, I found out that he was fvcking on her too. If you all really want to hear some tea, she had a boyfriend very briefly after the divorce, and she cheated on him and dumped him within a few months. I think the reason she gave was, “He was pushing for a relationship too fast.”

It makes me feel kind of off, because if she and my friend are together, then that means that by definition, I am third wheeling. Not good. And although I’m happy for my friend, that makes me feel a little weird about hanging out with both of them anymore. Also, even though I’ve come to terms with being rejected, it really sucks to hang with her at the bar and flirting with, or even wanting to go home with other guys. I feel like I’m putting myself in a very bad position here. It just feels bad after being rejected, to hear about other guys securing the pvssy in like an hour. Idk if this is accurate, but it feels like she’s telling me I’m not enough while other guys are.

This is more nuanced than a one-itis case, I think. Because if you know me, you know that I go out to cold approach women nearly every weekend. I have successes that I can point to in my approach journal. But just because I have those successes to point to doesn’t change the way that I’m feeling about this. Maybe the issue is that I’m missing some kind of deep emotional connection that I’m not getting from my approaches? Idk.

So the main question here is, what actionable steps can I take to resolve this sticky situation that I’ve found myself in? I can see this going one of two ways.

One, just don’t even fvcking worry about it. Just keep that relationship around for emotional support, and continue to go out every weekend, and cold approach/meet women who are interested in me. It is what it is.

Two, back off from her, my other friend, or both, since this is such a sticky situation. I suppose this would stop the emotions I’m feeling, but I think that I would feel bad about this and miss them. I actually tried to go No Contact on her, but I ended up cracking. Why I’m feeling this attachment to a woman I’m not even sexually involved with, I have no clue. It also doesn’t make sense why I felt a void when I tried to go NC, even though I hang out with friends and meet new women every single weekend.

Sorry if this thread is a bit of a re-tread. I’m just not sure what the correct answer is, and I needed to get this off my chest since this came up again yesterday. Wanted to put this on here. Thoughts appreciated.
will reply more soon. Tell her you wrote some more songs ans want to duet with her…then when she shows up tell her you said want to do it with her not duet with her
 

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Oh i read it more.
She sees you more as a relative than someone she can f$&k

i have a coworker like this. Attractive enough and in an unhappy marriage. Ive known her for years. She came out to my birthday party and picked up a bartender at a bar we were at. I know spanish and helped her talk to the guy since he doesnt know much english and she doesnt know much spanish

my friends gave me some **** but i just dont find myself attracted to her because ive known her in a work context so long
 

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You get a car yet Nick? Sometimes the feeling of being stuck can be mitigated by actual freedom of movement. Going for a drive is a good way to clear your head
Saving for the car is going well. I’m no longer living check to check and the estimated date for me to be able to buy a car in cash is before this Christmas. I’ve saved up about $2K. Now that I’m no longer check to check I can put a date on it.

That will be a great Christmas gift to myself lol.

Tbh a long drive sounds fantastic rn
 

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What you prefer. Real mode? Or soft mode? Please dont get mad at me bro I am just gonna be dead honest.

The real problem is that you actually look down upon her. You didn't always did that, (especially when she was married you was jealous) but when you found iut she "went in a rampage " you wanted a piece of azz too. (And you see her husband was right all along and "contained " the h0e within her)

Despite this you tried the proven failing way if getting close to "be her shoulder to cry on". Well, you see how that ended..

Meanwhile literally every man and his brother know she AINT SHYTE. This is why you should NEVER befriend a woman unless she provides you p00sy or money. Preferably the latter.

I can ramble for hours bro. If you are indeed C approaching whats the issue? This woman is a h0e. Those others too. I dont buy that you're cold approaching every week if yous so stuck on this actually simplistic 304.

You should NEVER again in your damn life befriend a woman again. Because you are like me: we are NOT build for this. We assume women will think with their brains right? And see "the value " we add to her life.

Learn this lesson. Oh and one more thing. Two actually dont EVER mingle professional work with personal pleasure . And that's coming from a musician/frontman And dont stop hanging with your homie,(thats just a bytche move) BUt DO STOP hanging with HER. Its over. No mas. Dont mans-plain why and yadiya. Just delete her nr and forget about her starting.........

.3 2 1 NOW.


Feel free to make it a scuffle, read through my past post and find my flaws so you can roast me back and make it about me as it usually happens when I'm trying to help yall with the uncut truth..
Yeah, let me hear it for sure. Tbh I wrote this thread because I need people to tell me what I need to hear instead of what I want to hear.

That’s insane that the husband was right and that’s why he was so controlling:rofl:
I never thought about it like that.

Yeah, at this point we can definitely diagnose that she’s a h0e. Some more tea, even some of her girlfriends were calling her a h0e lol.

I have an approach journal that I update(maybe I’m stressed out because life has gotten in the way of me approaching for the last two weekends) but even so, this situation has still been distressing.

I deleted her number.
 

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How old is this oneitis? I guess she's in her late 30s to mid 40s, going through a midlife crisis, hence the c0ck carousel riding. She's trying to validate herself with body counts.
Same age as me, 26.
 

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Maybe your ego is over invested in how you wish to be seen. You're not going to fukk every girl you meet. We all know this when we approach and get turned down. But you know this girl well, and you know some people she's fukked, so the ego doesn't want to accept the rejection because it puts you outside of a group.

I don't think it's bad that you're friends with this girl or even that you deep down would bang her if given the chance. No need to call it oneitis. Keep it simple, it's called attraction. Nothing wrong with it and sometimes friends DO fukk.

Personally when this happens to me I don't sweat it. If a girl rejects me she's within her rights and it's no hard feelings on my end. If she wants to continue being "friends" (hang out socially) that's cool. OP as long as you are doing approaches and getting laid who cares. If she is a cool chick she will wing you or even throw a girl or two your way. Look at it like she is orbiting YOU.

On the other hand if you just need a break and space then yeah, you can put her on ice. For me this whole "game" is all about me being 100% the most authentic version of me, no self-delusion. That means chicks (among other people) can get on the trolley if they want. I'm doing me.

Look at the bright side, you took your shot. Most guys wouldn't even do that. Bottom line is she still knows you're high value, I wouldn't sweat any of this other than being careful not to alienate your male friend.
You make a very good point. That’s probably why I was feeling that emotional friction, excellent way to put it.

Yeah, when cold approaching and you get rejected it’s fvcking hilarious. It does feel a bit different when it’s someone you know though.

Yeah, definitely need to keep in touch with the homie.

This situation bugs me but it would escalate to TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE if I weren’t meeting new women.
 
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OP,

First, don't feel bad that you have a weak spot for this chick. I think if a lot of us were honest, we would admit there is always that one chick in our lives that no matter how toxic and how much sh1t they put us in we feel this pull towards her. I still routinely run into one of my exes who is an attorney. I have never put myself in a situation where anything could happen, but as the time as grown since our relationship she has become more and more friendly again towards me. I know that if she and I were out at night grabbing a drink just the two of us (something she would likely be open to at this point), that something could easily happen. Hence why I don't even put myself there to begin with. But I know I would have a lot of trouble saying no to her if she came on strong in that situation because there IS a part of me, despite all the bad sh1t she brings to the table, that finds her extremely attractive - and not just because of her looks.

You have to have some control over your urges. If you know this woman is going to elicit this kind of response out of you, you have to be strong enough to say no to anything. Clearly, she loves the attention from you. Her coming back into your life is already putting you in a bad head space. What does that tell you? Cut this off now before you get yourself deeper and deeper.
Yeah, she does love the attention lol. If this continues it’ll just get worse. I think I’ll take your advice and nip it in the bud before this gets out of control.
 

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I think you misunderstand what I mean by purpose; this is in reference to how you spend your free time, not how you make a living necessarily, if you have free time, you don't have a purpose... Free time is where all these emotional thoughts are given an open door to enter your life, you must eliminate all free time in your life.
Ah, I see. In that case, my purpose would be music. Unfortunately my practice time is extremely limited due to life heating up, but we keep pushing.
 

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You know what doesn't feel right? (And I'm guessing that OP feels the same);

At very least let "that woman " be one you sleep or slept with. It's doesn't feels good when the love of your life was a woman who always kept you in the fiendzome while she got passed around by everyone and his brother(literally).

I know you are compassionate, bu I'm just saying.
As much as it still does hurt to delete her contact, because of the super long shared history we have together. Something in the pit of my stomach(my instinct I guess?) is telling me that something is very, very, very wrong that I’m in the friendzone while she’s throwing the pvssy around, getting passed around, and banging literally dozens of dudes. It’s telling me that I can’t let this go on any longer before it actually gets out of control. Even when I am meeting other women. That’s why I wanted to make this thread, tbh.

I didn’t care much when she had a BF but this feels different somehow.
 
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One itis is still a thing in 2023? I can understand in the 90s and 2000s, attention wh0res were uncommon and you’d run into a beautiful chick here and there and develop one itis. But developing one itis in 2023? What are your standards, she only had 25 matches on tinder vs 100?
 

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The **** carousel at its finest.
Only one way outta the friendzone. Sex. Escalate.
Divorcee's are prime for 3 ways OP. Next time she says it will ruin your friendship tell her yes ruin it like im going to ruin your puzzy.
These situations require dirty talk. She wants **** as you verified.

Stop with all the mooshy its nice to have a mommy crap.
Now your wanking it while your buddy is boning her.

If you want her. I higy advise she sees you with other women and I mean them hanging on you. Then she might see you as a sexual man instead of her brother.
Just being strait with you.
Yeah. Now that I think about it my gut is telling me that it’s unacceptable for me to put myself in this situation.

I will say though, my homie is actually my friend though. I’ll detail that later in the thread because why not.
 

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You are each other´s emotional tampon, except your are getting the bad end of the deal anyways because you want to f0ck her.

Man up and go no contact bro. If you want an emotional tampon, find a female friend who doesnt pass the boner test.
Honestly, ur right homie
 

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edit; perhaps i misread something? Please correct me if I'm wromg brothers!

I might be wrong obviously, but it feels like this woman has been special to Op for many ,many years. And we all had a crush left and right BUT at some point you got to say NO MAS to having crushes or as @BackInTheGame78 recently said: a delusion-ship.

Perhaps I'm just being cranky due to trying to do too much at once quiting fappin,quitting smoking, working 2 jobs ect. It all just sounds pathetic and actually makes me blood boil.

A woman putting me in the friendzoned while fecking everything that has a weenie in front of me...would anger me enough to start mma and become a bodybuilder haha.

For real. A woman you never slept with HARDLY ever deserves a thread, although I understand OPs need to both vent and secondly get some feedback. Unfortunately i can't feel anything but sadness and anger, and i HOPE the OP feels the same and manages to use this anger as fuel.


No man , no aspiring dj should have to face this kinda shyte.
I appreciate the brutal honesty. It’s what I needed to hear.

I can’t say that I really felt anger yet, but sadness yes. Upset, yes!

CONSENSUS: Go no contact, and then go all in, 100% on my Game quest that I’ve been doing. Meet women who are attracted to me.
 

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Oh i read it more.
She sees you more as a relative than someone she can f$&k

i have a coworker like this. Attractive enough and in an unhappy marriage. Ive known her for years. She came out to my birthday party and picked up a bartender at a bar we were at. I know spanish and helped her talk to the guy since he doesnt know much english and she doesnt know much spanish

my friends gave me some **** but i just dont find myself attracted to her because ive known her in a work context so long
You know, now that I think about it, she’s explicitly said to me in the past that she views me as family. I’m not quite sure what I expected lol.

When I got curved, the exact words that she used were “I’m very emotionally reliant on our friendship and if I were to sleep with you, it’d never be the same” lol. That rejection still falls under the category of “it would ruin our friendship” though.
 

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One itis is still a thing in 2023? I can understand in the 90s and 2000s, attention wh0res were uncommon and you’d run into a beautiful chick here and there and develop one itis. But developing one itis in 2023? What are your standards, she only had 25 matches on tinder vs 100?
Maybe One-itis isn’t the correct term, tbh.
 

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As much as it still does hurt to delete her contact, because of the super long shared history we have together. Something in the pit of my stomach(my instinct I guess?) is telling me that something is very, very, very wrong that I’m in the friendzone while she’s throwing the pvssy around, getting passed around, and banging literally dozens of dudes. It’s telling me that I can’t let this go on any longer before it actually gets out of control. Even when I am meeting other women. That’s why I wanted to make this thread, tbh.

I didn’t care much when she had a BF but this feels different somehow.
i can tell you're a real man. Being a real man isn't about your results and destination, but about your journey to get there. And that is always with ups and downs.

Something tells me you should / could do the following; I'd "little sister " her azz. Or feck that, straight up put her in the platonic fiendzone.

This woman doesn't do anything wrong. She's just not to be taken serious as wifey material ANYMORE by YOU.

I'd laugh it off at some point. I'd become bold and unapologetic at this point. Play the " i was drunk " card. The " just give me a handjob " card . Thats IF she insists to stay in my life.

Otherwise you gotta take this L like a man, turn around and walk away. There are SO MANY fascinating women out there...once you rediscover 1. The game 2. Yourself ,you'll be happy that you didn't make any crazy sacrifices for her.

You got this man. Introspection is key, and everything will get better from there.
 

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An Update From The Homie

Okay, let’s make this story extra spicy and pour some more tea before I end all of the updates in this thread.

So I kicked it again with my homie the other day. He invited me for some drinks after I was done with work.

He’s actually the homie. He texted me the very next morning saying how he was hoping he didn’t offend me(although he said he really wanted the pvssy, apparently :rofl: ) I told him a *little* bit of this story, not as much detail as I told you guys, and he was like “Oh wow. I had no idea you felt that way.”

I got a bit more of the story. So the morning after with the girl, he woke up to her being hit with 6 phone calls in a row from some guy. He was like, “who is that?” She was like “my boyfriend.”

My homie was shocked because he was under the impression that she had broke up with that dude. But no, she was cheating on her new BF of 1-2 months with my homie.

My homie was shocked because that was exactly what happened with his last GF: she was cheating on him with some other guy.

My homie was like: “I really feel for dude. He’s done nothing but treat her well, and she’s already cheating on him. And they’re back together.”

She then said, “It’s fine. Tbh, no matter what I do, I know he’ll try to make it work.” She also was mentioning how she needed a free place to stay so that she didn’t have to live with her parents.

Yikes.

Consensus

So at this point the answer is obvious… break it off no matter how much it hurts, and go all in, 100% on my game efforts to find women who truly want to be with me. And never get friendzoned again. Sound advice from the guys on the board.
 
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