Michael's Story

[johnrambo]

From https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/michaels-story.316135

Hello. Is there an introduction board for this website? My name is Michael. I’ve been reading this website for 3 days. I’m shocked to see everything I’ve experiencing written in such a perfectly stated way. Never before have I seen a blog/media outlet so perfectly written. The writer is surely a genius. I’m amazed and relived to see so many responses. It means I’m not alone.


I’m 32 years old and have never been married. Unfortunately (or fortunately I’m not sure which anymore at this point) I have no kids. I am single and alone and not dating anyone. I live in Los Angeles. My income was $120,000.00 (net earnings after creative deductions and business taxes) in 2011. Income is projected to be $170,000.00 (net earnings after business taxes) in 2012. I’m exactly the kinds of “independent man” women claim they want. I drive a luxury car with an amazing apartment in Los Angeles directly on the beach. It’s quite a panty moistener and costs me $6,000.00 per month. I work from home because an office would cost at least another $2,000.00 month. I keep in great shape. Gym 3-4 a week + running + organic diet (I spend $700-$900.00 a month on organic foods and supplements) I was raised in a Christian “7th Heaven” (old TV show) type household. We always went to church. Strong hard working father figure was always present for me and my siblings. I went to private school, university, law school, and then started my own practice at 28 years old.


My parents met and married in college. They have been married for 39 years. And it hurts me to the core to be 32 and unmarried. Alone. Without a loving wife. I feel pain from it every single day. It’s like a sharp invisible dagger constantly stabbing at me. But perhaps I’m part of the problem listed in the graphs above. Let me explain why:


I went to the same college my parents met and married at. I was hoping to meet marry and settle down. Instead I was met with hundreds young college aged women who were NOT interested in marriage. They were interested in: 1) Partying 2) Having sex. College was 24/7 **** fest. At first I was able to begrudgingly “socialize” in this element. What do I mean by “this element” within this context? College: Extreme social promiscuity, cheating, drama, drugs, and parties. I was an observer but NEVER a direct participant because my heart would not let me. This eventually caused me to stick out as a third wheel observer on campus. Someone who was always “not mixing” or “participating”. As a result I never enjoyed the benefits. I rarely dated. Instead I was sneered at. Cute girls flicked their fingers at me. I was used by women as a person to tell their problems to. I was passed over. I was seen as “weak “lame” and “boring”. I was ignored in the hallways, library, classes, by these women. And it didn’t help I was cash strapped broke working a minimum wage job and eating Raman noodles..

 

[johnrambo]

The vast majority of these young hot girls vigorously pursued college life sex like you would not believe. They had sex with a large variety of guys. What I personally call “lily padding”. These girls did anything and anyone in the name of “fun” (fun=parties, fun= sex with new people, fun= drugs, fun= raves, fun = frat party etc.


It hurt me to watch these girls go out of their way to pursue and spread their legs for complete losers. COMPLETE LOSERS. I’m talking: Hi I work in a carnival part time, I’m covered in tattoos, I have no job, I failed my minimum wage drug test and I’m in a band. These guys were losers. Some did not even go to the college! They would hop a bus stay with friends and get laid THAT NIGHT.


Many nights I could not sleep because of the girls getting ****ed hard… 1,2,3,4 dorms down. The dorms were old military barracks from the 1940’s with vents through the ceilings. It was very loud. All the time. I remember how much it hurt to be rejected by one girl in particular I had my open hopeless romantic heart set on… We had allot in common. I pursued her like a complete gentlemen – and was eventually turned down. That same weekend after getting turned down I got to hear her getting ****ed hard and loud in the room next door. The guy who lived there was a super scraggly unattractive heavy drug user covered in tattoos majoring in “music studies”. This girl was young hot thin beautiful in her physical prime. I never said anything. But I felt so hurt she turned me down for casual sex with a guy like that. This guy was very open about his exploits with her and told me not to worry because practically every guy he knew ****ed her. As the years passed the same thing happened again and again, and again and again, in various ways with all kinds of unrelated girls. What I mean is: I was looking for a LTR leading to marriage. I would meet trade numbers talk and “feel” a girl was a good person. Then she would do other guys. Or I would find out things like this. When this kind of thing happens to me over and over all through my life….it hurts me and makes me doubt senses. What is wrong with me that my heart is telling me she is a good person when she is clearly not?

As time went on I was labeled “husband material” by the girls on my campus. This phrase continued to plague me into my late 20’s. This label resulted in ZERO DATES all through college. I wasn’t “down with it”. I wasn’t “participating” etc (sex, drugs, parties, etc.) My heart wasn’t into it. So I wasn’t entitled to any of the benefits (having sex with young attractive girls in their prime etc.). However party guys, flash in a pan athletes, loser guys in bands, wanna be DJ’s and self-professed “club promoters” – were ALWAYS getting these girls at their youngest hottest physical prime. Basically the more of a loser the guy was… the more these women would have sex with them. Hot sorority girls flocked to Football players like a butterfly’s on a beast. It didn’t even matter if the guy was black. College athletes did not even TRY to get laid.


One night I had enough. I confronted a room of 8-10 gorgeous white girls. These girls were 18-24 years old. I asked them if they planned to get married. All seemed to say more or less – YES. I asked what their future husband would think about their behavior. I was immediately met with hostility. I was told the future husband would “never know” and “it’s none of his business”. The girls said they knew exactly what they were doing and were planning to “have their fun” (fun= partying, fun=sex, fun=going on spring break etc.) and would “settle down later”. I asked: when are you planning to settle down? They said: “It depends” and “probably around 27, 28” or “maybe sooner it depends”. I really put the girls on the spot. During our exchange they saw I was upset. They told me I should be happy because “nice guys finish first in the end”. I told them you cannot have your cake and eat it to. Then I was told by Kaylene (a young thin super sexy blonde with curves in all the right places (who BTW refused to date me even though we were friends and according to her roommate had sex with almost 30 guys in one semester ) she told me “Michael let me tell you something: not only am I going to have my cake eat it and eat it too. I’m going to have it with ice cream and sprinkles”. All of the girls laughed and smiled in agreement.

 

[johnrambo]

I thought things would change after college. They didn’t.


Now at 32 and successful these women are hitting me. In my mind these are the same women who rejected me. I’m not interested. The Bible says something to the effect of “don’t forsake the wife of your youth” or something like “remember your young wife”? Something like that. How am I supposed to remember something I never had? I have no history with these women. Ticking ovaries are scandalous. They will lie and say anything to get what they want. Which is: BABIES AND A LOVING HUSBAND TO PAY THEIR BILLS. Yet these women did not even give a few good years of their youth!


As a man I am very visual. God made me this way. I cannot help finding a physically beautiful woman attractive. Why did these women not at least give me a few years of their youth so I would have time to fall in love with them and permanently burn their image in my mind’s eye? I need something to remember when we are 50 and married. Yet she spent her 20’s parceling herself out to guys who gave her nothing and offers nothing to the guy who gives her everything. I’m expected to commit hard earned resources to raising children with what is ultimately a suspect woman whose history I know nothing about. A 30+ unmarried women has very high chance of having a questionable past and baggage. I believe the more men a woman has been with the less likely she is to be emotionally committed each subsequent one. When you have handed out little pieces of your heart over years to dozens of different men what is left for the husband you proclaim to truly love? What value do the words “I love you” mean when she has stared into the eyes of 10-100+ different men and said the same thing?


At 30+ women’s physical appearance has nowhere to go but DOWN. Is this what women mean by “saving the best for last”? Marrying at 30+? How can women spend trillions of dollars a year on beauty products yet at the same time claim a women’s age “shouldn’t be important” to a man? And what about children? Did they ever think their husbands might want to have children? What’s more likely to naturally produce a quicker pregnancy and healthy offspring? A fertile 24 year old in her physical prime… or a 35 year old aging womb? What if I want multiple children? At 30+ a women can easily before infertile after her first pregnancy. As a result of everything I’ve seen and experienced in my life I would like to make an announcement to all the desperate 30+ year old women out there: I would rather suffocate and die then spend my hard earned income, love, trust, and substance on you. Your entitled, ageing, feminist, jaded, baggage laden and brainwashed. And if I cannot marry a women in her 20’s I REFUSE TO EVER GET MARRIED. Given my high income this should not be a problem. However I’m concerned at some point I will have to start looking overseas (Ukraine, Russia, Eastern Europe etc.). I’m not going to marry one of these 30+ ageing entitled females who clearly have an agenda of their own. I intend to get married once. Marriage is meant to be forever. I will not be a starter husband for one of these used up women. I can’t tell you the number of men I’ve known who married late and were rewarded by losing everything they spent their lives building…

The way I see it I’ve been given the following choices:

1. Marry a 30+ women.
2. Marry a women in her twenties
3. Be single and enjoy my money.

 

[Gamisch]

Damn bro. I can see and feel the conflict and confusion seeping through your posts.

You are extremely prejudicial and thus not flexible with your vision. On the other hand you are seemingly a "top dude". My first thoughts is you still need to reframe.

You claim victimization from the fact your parents (mother) are a solid yet extremely difficult example to follow. Yet you are fully aware of your worth.

The fact you have trouble with women is because of your own beliefs. Ever heard of rich people talking about trying to look poor? You try to impress women but they're not impressed. What was the definition of insanity again ? Uhm lets say, ah i remember! To do what you've already done but expect a different result.

- step away from WANTING to get married ESPECIALLY with your assets.
-try having some damn fun
-SMILE!!!!
- reframe why you do what you do. If you have a crib jist to impress women yet there's never a woman, you might as well move and BUY a house wherever YOU like it, or rent for twice as cheap in a less" panty moisturizing " environment. Because the panry also gets wet behind a dumpster for as you said " a ugly drugs addict ". Yet you wouldn't think TWICE to marry such a woman..c'mon now.

Y'all never listen when I say that game is mostly INTERNAL. Yes ,you must look the part ,but ill repeat: looks are the vehicle, but GAME is the motor. No car can drive without a working motor no matter how expensive the material is.

@sangheilios , I know you ignore me on a regular. Yet I challenge you to respond to this thread/my post. @SW15 , I also summon you to repsond. Because this thread debunks your theory and proves AGAIN how important INTERNAL game is.(but you know I love you bro dont be offended).

 

[SW15]

I’m 32 years old and have never been married. Unfortunately (or fortunately I’m not sure which anymore at this point) I have no kids. I am single and alone and not dating anyone. I live in Los Angeles. My income was $120,000.00 (net earnings after creative deductions and business taxes) in 2011. Income is projected to be $170,000.00 (net earnings after business taxes) in 2012. I’m exactly the kinds of “independent man” women claim they want. I drive a luxury car with an amazing apartment in Los Angeles directly on the beach. It’s quite a panty moistener and costs me $6,000.00 per month. I work from home because an office would cost at least another $2,000.00 month. I keep in great shape. Gym 3-4 a week + running + organic diet (I spend $700-$900.00 a month on organic foods and supplements) I was raised in a Christian “7th Heaven” (old TV show) type household. We always went to church. Strong hard working father figure was always present for me and my siblings. I went to private school, university, law school, and then started my own practice at 28 years old.

$120,000 salary in 2011 was good in most US markets. In Los Angeles, $120,000 in 2011 would have been like $80,000 in a place like Dallas or Denver. A guy making $80,000 in Dallas or Denver in 2011 was nothing special.

Los Angeles has been a very competitive dating market. There has long been an oversupply of men there.

Spending $72,000/year on rent when he makes $120,000/year is not wise financially. Perhaps his luxury brand car was older then.

Other than having a good body from gym visits, he's a debt ridden beta male in a competitive market trying to lead with his wallet.

I thought things would change after college. They didn’t.

Now at 32 and successful these women are hitting me. In my mind these are the same women who rejected me. I’m not interested. The Bible says something to the effect of “don’t forsake the wife of your youth” or something like “remember your young wife”? Something like that. How am I supposed to remember something I never had? I have no history with these women. Ticking ovaries are scandalous. They will lie and say anything to get what they want. Which is: BABIES AND A LOVING HUSBAND TO PAY THEIR BILLS. Yet these women did not even give a few good years of their youth!

He's beta bait. Second fiddle. Over the hill women who rode the penis carousel want him now because he's looks the part of a dutiful beta male and he's in shape.

The way I see it I’ve been given the following choices:

1. Marry a 30+ women.
2. Marry a women in her twenties
3. Be single and enjoy my money.

He doesn't offer enough at 32 to attract a lot of 20 somethings.

One night I had enough. I confronted a room of 8-10 gorgeous white girls. These girls were 18-24 years old. I asked them if they planned to get married. All seemed to say more or less – YES. I asked what their future husband would think about their behavior. I was immediately met with hostility. I was told the future husband would “never know” and “it’s none of his business”. The girls said they knew exactly what they were doing and were planning to “have their fun” (fun= partying, fun=sex, fun=going on spring break etc.) and would “settle down later”. I asked: when are you planning to settle down? They said: “It depends” and “probably around 27, 28” or “maybe sooner it depends”. I really put the girls on the spot. During our exchange they saw I was upset. They told me I should be happy because “nice guys finish first in the end”. I told them you cannot have your cake and eat it to. Then I was told by Kaylene (a young thin super sexy blonde with curves in all the right places (who BTW refused to date me even though we were friends and according to her roommate had sex with almost 30 guys in one semester ) she told me “Michael let me tell you something: not only am I going to have my cake eat it and eat it too. I’m going to have it with ice cream and sprinkles”. All of the girls laughed and smiled in agreement.

Many of those women were able to do exactly what they said in part due to male thirst.

@SW15[/USER] , I also summon you to repsond. Because this thread debunks your theory and proves AGAIN how important INTERNAL game is.(but you know I love you bro dont be offended).

I have never said that internal game was unimportant. It's relevant. I'm not impressed with this Michael character.

 

[Gamisch]

$120,000 salary in 2011 was good in most US markets. In Los Angeles, $120,000 in 2011 would have been like $80,000 in a place like Dallas or Denver. A guy making $80,000 in Dallas or Denver in 2011 was nothing special.

Los Angeles has been a very competitive dating market. There has long been an oversupply of men there.

Spending $72,000/year on rent when he makes $120,000/year is not wise financially. Perhaps his luxury brand car was older then.

Other than having a good body from gym visits, he's a debt ridden beta male in a competitive market trying to lead with his wallet.



He's beta bait. Second fiddle. Over the hill women who rode the penis carousel want him now because he's looks the part of a dutiful beta male and he's in shape.



He doesn't offer enough at 32 to attract a lot of 20 somethings.



Many of those women were able to do exactly what they said in part due to male thirst.



I have never said that internal game was unimportant. It's relevant. I'm not impressed with this Michael character.

Sharp observations about the income vs rent. I missed that and deemed him to be a " topguy". But this equation actually shows he's working to chase something he cannot catch. Might as well become more minimalistic and focus your money on other shyte.

I agree its ESPECIALLY men like Michael who're facilitating that women think like this. I thought he'd say" then i went into a room with 3 girls and asked them for a foursome". But no he threw a tantrum why they won't marry a man like him only to(ofcourse ) get burned. A red pill moment if you let it be, a moment a man can use to change his perception...

 

[SW15]

Sharp observations about the income vs rent. I missed that and deemed him to ne a " topguy". But this equation actually shows he's working to chase something he cannot catch. Might as well become more minimalistic and focus on your money on other shyte.

I agree its ESPECIALLY men like Michael who facilitating that women think like this. I thought he'd say" then i went into a room with 3 girl and asked them for a foursome". But no he threw a tantrum why they qont marry a man like him only to(ofcourse ) get burned. A red pill moment if you let it be, a moment a man can use to change his perception...

He's not a top guy at his $120,000 earning level in 2011. If he hit his $170,000 income projection in 2012 (that's a big if), he's closer to a top guy, but still not it. A $170,000 annual salary is respectable and he has some solid lifetime achievements, but it's not top tier. This is a beta with a nice body and a decent solo law practice. If he were in a bigger law firm, he'd be associate/senior associate level with the partners breathing down his neck to bill more hours, leaving him less free time to try and seduce.

We also don't know what kind of "luxury" car he drives, but I would guess that in 2011-2012, he was driving a 7+ year old entry level luxury car like a BMW 3 Series or Mercedes C-Class. His rent was taking up way too much of his earnings. Again, those are respectable cars, but it's not enough if you're solely leading with your wallet.

All I saw is a beta male who likely has a lot of debt, a nice body, and leading with his wallet.

He's likely boring AF on dates to 23 year old 7+ women. 27-31 year old Los Angeles gold diggers weren't impressed either because they knew there was enough gold to dig to be bothered.

When he was in college and law school, he didn't offer anything besides a better than average body (and likely not exceptional body) so that's why he was ignored then too. And he probably didn't have the salary or the 7-10 year old entry level luxury car either.

 

[Gamisch]

He's not a top guy at his $120,000 earning level in 2011. If he hit his $170,000 income projection in 2012 (that's a big if), he's closer to a top guy, but still not it. A $170,000 annual salary is respectable and he has some solid lifetime achievements, but it's not top tier. This is a beta with a nice body and a decent solo law practice. If he were in a bigger law firm, he'd be associate/senior associate level with the partners breathing down his neck to bill more hours, leaving him less free time to try and seduce.

We also don't know what kind of "luxury" car he drives, but I would guess that in 2011-2012, he was driving a 7+ year old entry level luxury car like a BMW 3 Series or Mercedes C-Class. His rent was taking up way too much of his earnings. Again, those are respectable cars, but it's not enough if you're solely leading with your wallet.

All I saw is a beta male who likely has a lot of debt, a nice body, and leading with his wallet.

He's likely boring AF on dates to 23 year old 7+ women. 27-31 year old Los Angeles gold diggers weren't impressed either because they knew there was enough gold to dig to be bothered.

When he was in college and law school, he didn't offer anything besides a better than average body (and likely not exceptional body) so that's why he was ignored then too. And he probably didn't have the salary or the 7-10 year old entry level luxury car either.

Ouch.

As always the truth hits like a truck. Yet Micheal at least has some good fundamentals to work from. If i get my networth up to that level..pff bro then its OVER and y'all better hide y'all mothers and daughters! Working HARD on it tho..

 

[johnrambo]

Damn bro. I can see and feel the conflict and confusion seeping through your posts.

This is not me. I am re-posting. The article was too long. I had to break it into segments. I thought it was a good post. I repost here in case the original site go away.

 

[SW15]

Ouch.

As always the truth hits like a truck. Yet Micheal at least has some good fundamentals to work from. If i get my networth up to that level..pff bro then its OVER and y'all better hide y'all mothers and daughters! Working HARD on it tho..

Michael's number 1 problem is frame. He has a weak frame in relationships. I sense a lot of insecurity in his posts. It's my hope that his frame isn't weak if he has to go into a courtroom. That's not going to benefit his clients.

I am curious as to why he's a solo practitioner at age 32 so early in his career. Did he not get hired by an established law firm coming out of law school? I'm also curious where he went to undergrad and law school. I don't sense he went to a Top 25/Ivy League law school based on the insecurity that permeates his posts. While it's not necessary to go to a Top 25 or Ivy League program, a lot of non-Top 25 law school graduates feel insecure about where they went to law school because it wasn't top tier.

Working out of his house to save money on office space is quite cheap too. A top tier lawyer doesn't do that.

He overleveraged himself on his bachelor pad by the beach. It seems like he was a renter at the time, so he could have let that lease end and move somewhere less expensive.

He comes off as trying too hard and insecure. It's likely that beyond his internal frame, his height is mediocre, and his physique might be above average, but it's not elite and won't compensate for his other faults.