Deceptive Shady Practices by Bumble Dating App

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I was swiping on Bumble with a one month premium subscription. While swiping it expired. I had just ran out of people in my search criteria. The app reloads, prompts me to buy another subscription (which I don't), and then tells me I have 50+ interests, and 21 new. Quite the improvement in just a few seconds. I start swiping and here are 8 new hotties in my area that I have never seen. Just magically appeared!
A few minutes ago there were no people to swipe on.

You can't believe anything these apps put out. All bullschitt smoke and mirrors. I definitely wouldn't waste another dollar on a subscription to Bumble. About the only difference I noticed was with the paid service you had unlimited swipes.
 

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There is a certain value in keeping off of the apps and only meeting women in person.

I have found that I am mentally healthier when I keep my initial interactions with women to in-person methods.
 

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I got some deal on a lifetime Bumble sub a couple of years ago, like less than $100 US - the apps are made to keep us on them, how else do they make money?
 

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Yeh I paid the premium just as a one off.

End of the month I'm done with it.

My focus will be mostly cold approach
 

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I don't blame the app people for making a dollar. I do blame them for their questionable ethics. It why so many businesses are governed by some sort of regulatory agency. These dating app companies are getting away with all sorts of corrupt things. Just look at how many times Match Group has been to court. They got Trump topped. (And no BillTx this isn't political.)
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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The dating apps business model is to sell a problem not a solution

They don't really want to pair people up that are well suited and may actually build a relationship because then that's two less customers and two less revenue sources

The algorithm quickly figures out an individual's SMV and then ensures you always get matches like 2-3 points below
 

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I don't blame the app people for making a dollar. I do blame them for their questionable ethics. It why so many businesses are governed by some sort of regulatory agency. These dating app companies are getting away with all sorts of corrupt things. Just look at how many times Match Group has been to court. They got Trump topped. (And no BillTx this isn't political.)
Yep. It seems around fall 2020 is when the old sites really went downhill. Before covid not nearly the amount of pay walls and the women were better looking too. Match group sites taken a huge hit. I guess with the litigation they had to find ways to make money to pay for it. All the old sites even non match llc owned have gone way down. Bumble just figured they cluld be pay to play too. They give you not many swipes before you gotta pay now.
 

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They give you not many swipes before you gotta pay now.
That's why most men need to pay. Most men have a less than 1% match rate on their right swipes. Most men will need to pay to do enough volume of swipes to offset that match rate.

Most men are considering either paying Match Group/Bumble or going out and doing a lot of stranger approaches, playing in a co-ed sports league, etc.

I've considered everything and determined in-person approaching is better.
 

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I was swiping on Bumble with a one month premium subscription. While swiping it expired. I had just ran out of people in my search criteria. The app reloads, prompts me to buy another subscription (which I don't), and then tells me I have 50+ interests, and 21 new. Quite the improvement in just a few seconds. I start swiping and here are 8 new hotties in my area that I have never seen. Just magically appeared!
A few minutes ago there were no people to swipe on.

You can't believe anything these apps put out. All bullschitt smoke and mirrors. I definitely wouldn't waste another dollar on a subscription to Bumble. About the only difference I noticed was with the paid service you had unlimited swipes.
Wow, Dukie.

Not only are you guys getting flaked on by women, but you are also getting flaked on (played) by dating sites.

Here, hold this L.

Lol.
 

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The dating apps business model is to sell a problem not a solution

They don't really want to pair people up that are well suited and may actually build a relationship because then that's two less customers and two less revenue sources

The algorithm quickly figures out an individual's SMV and then ensures you always get matches like 2-3 points below
If we have to believe the narrative that the ratio men women is 65 /35 ,then it could be that women have so much more options that they dont have to and probably wont ever date 3 points below their smv.

Although it makes sense that each profile individually will be targeted, no matter what gender or smv one has.

Funny sidenote: so now we often say we have both an online smv and a "real life" smv...tricky territory, where one would rather believe that his real life smv is higher than his online SMv..
 

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You are confusing "deceptive" with "capitalistic".

You are all think Bumble cares if you match? Bumble's main goal is to use your vulnerability, lack of looks, lack of game to its benefit. They have discovered that their is money is to be made from men who want to connect with women but can't. They will use any trick in the book to get your money.

The people with money are much smarter than me and you.
 

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Wow, Dukie.

Not only are you guys getting flaked on by women, but you are also getting flaked on (played) by dating sites.

Here, hold this L.

Lol.
Amigo, nobody is fooling this s.o.b. Too many miles traveled. I've never disagreed with your methods. I know it works. Just not exactly my style.
 

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The dating apps business model is to sell a problem not a solution

They don't really want to pair people up that are well suited and may actually build a relationship because then that's two less customers and two less revenue sources

The algorithm quickly figures out an individual's SMV and then ensures you always get matches like 2-3 points below
I feel like I'm trapped and have no choice but to use apps. Cold approach won't work for me and it's not worth it to learn it, and I'm never in any situations where I can meet women I can date irl. For the past few years I've wanted to phase out apps and meet women irl but I have no other option. It's maddening but there's really no way out. I wish there was a way to meet women irl for guys like me
 

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If we have to believe the narrative that the ratio men women is 65 /35 ,then it could be that women have so much more options that they dont have to and probably wont ever date 3 points below their smv.

Although it makes sense that each profile individually will be targeted, no matter what gender or smv one has.

Funny sidenote: so now we often say we have both an online smv and a "real life" smv...tricky territory, where one would rather believe that his real life smv is higher than his online SMv..
Yes but you have to remember the 35% of women on them are mostly going to be very low quality HB 2 - 6 and usually carrying a raft of social / physchological issues too

If you think about it from the female perspective

being an attractive / beautiful woman on a dating app is pretty much admitting she cannot attract males in real life which for a healthy normal and feminine woman is a cardinal sin as the majority of their existence centers around attracting & seducing men and physically competing with other women

A woman doesn't want to go to brunch with her girlfriends and talk about men on swipe apps

Its icky and borderline shameful for them

" eww becky what do you mean your seeing a random guy from a dating app are you that desperate you need to be on them apps "

( and yes women do talk about and perceive apps in this manner )
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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I feel like I'm trapped and have no choice but to use apps. Cold approach won't work for me and it's not worth it to learn it, and I'm never in any situations where I can meet women I can date irl. For the past few years I've wanted to phase out apps and meet women irl but I have no other option. It's maddening but there's really no way out. I wish there was a way to meet women irl for guys like me
I like it whenever a dating coach says something I haven't heard before.

Coach eo says a man should DEFINITELY cold approach in his twenties. You have 3 years left, go get em boi!
 

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I feel like I'm trapped and have no choice but to use apps. Cold approach won't work for me and it's not worth it to learn it, and I'm never in any situations where I can meet women I can date irl. For the past few years I've wanted to phase out apps and meet women irl but I have no other option. It's maddening but there's really no way out. I wish there was a way to meet women irl for guys like me
This is nonsense your just trapped in your own mind

As males we HAVE to make the first move nothing can change this that's the masculine role to put your balls on the line and make things happen , nobody cares if cold approach hasn't worked for you , or your job doesn't let you meet women or you aren't in the right environments

NOBODY CARES ,

I get stuck in my own mind a lot too , but then occasionally I just get a burst of testosterone and I go and make a move and afterwards wether it goes well or not im ALWAYS glad I did it

the vast majority of normal feminine women know and accept men have to do this , yes a lot you approach won't be interested for a myriad of reasons but every so often you'll come across a few that are interested and because she knows you have the balls to approach her in real life and make her feel comfortable

she will usually give you a lot of bonus points and that's how you end up building a rotation and getting a lot of sex
 

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This is nonsense your just trapped in your own mind

As males we HAVE to make the first move nothing can change this that's the masculine role to put your balls on the line and make things happen , nobody cares if cold approach hasn't worked for you , or your job doesn't let you meet women or you aren't in the right environments

NOBODY CARES ,

I get stuck in my own mind a lot too , but then occasionally I just get a burst of testosterone and I go and make a move and afterwards wether it goes well or not im ALWAYS glad I did it

the vast majority of normal feminine women know and accept men have to do this , yes a lot you approach won't be interested for a myriad of reasons but every so often you'll come across a few that are interested and because she knows you have the balls to approach her in real life and make her feel comfortable

she will usually give you a lot of bonus points and that's how you end up building a rotation and getting a lot of sex
This .

The reason why OP struggles with this is because its "unnatural " to rely solely on OLD. From that pov he should be HAPPY it doesn't work and now he MUST go approach women somehow some way.

Talking bout work, also a "natural " thing a man must do. If you dont work something inside of you dies, something that needs to be nurtured. Working out is another one.
 

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I like it whenever a dating coach says something I haven't heard before.

Coach eo says a man should DEFINITELY cold approach in his twenties. You have 3 years left, go get em boi!
In other posts I've gone into depth why me trying to learn cold approach isn't a good idea
 

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This .

The reason why OP struggles with this is because its "unnatural " to rely solely on OLD. From that pov he should be HAPPY it doesn't work and now he MUST go approach women somehow some way.

Talking bout work, also a "natural " thing a man must do. If you dont work something inside of you dies, something that needs to be nurtured. Working out is another one.
You don't understand, it's not worth it for me to learn cold approach and I have no way of meeting women naturally. I got both of these things working against me
 

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