Why do you never hear men talk about attraction as a problem?

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I wonder what's up with that. The infamous "something " seems to be a feeling that's exclusively felt by women. Its literally 100% women talking, writing and commenting on it.

I've never met a man or even read something about a woman whose a "great catch" but "something's "missing. If there's "something off" a man most of the time can pinpoint at it . Already a big difference: men think in "something is wrong" but womem think in "something is missing".

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I wonder what's up with that. The infamous "something " seems to be a feeling that's exclusively felt by women. Its literally 100% women talking, writing and commenting on it.

I've never met a man or even read something about a woman whose a "great catch" but "something's "missing. If there's "something off" a man most of the time can pinpoint at it . Already a big difference: men think in "something is wrong" but womem think in "something is missing".

Chime in sosuave bros
Logical vs Emotional
 

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I wonder what's up with that. The infamous "something " seems to be a feeling that's exclusively felt by women. Its literally 100% women talking, writing and commenting on it.

I've never met a man or even read something about a woman whose a "great catch" but "something's "missing. If there's "something off" a man most of the time can pinpoint at it . Already a big difference: men think in "something is wrong" but womem think in "something is missing".

Chime in sosuave bros
Because most men have no issues just fvcking a woman if she looks good even if they aren't interested in anything long term. Most women aren't going to do that if they are looking for a relationship and aren't into hooking up.

At least not if they don't think there is potential for something more. They may be willing to start off as hooking up but only if they are interested in it being more than that down the road.

Men literally give no fvcks about that.

What would be funny if guys started saying this exact stuff back to women they weren't interested in and see how they react hearing their own lines used against them hahaha
 

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"He´s a great catch but somethings missing" is girl talk for:

"He´s a great catch but he doesnt give me vaginal tingles. I´m gonna put him in the friendzone while I wait around for Chad and/or ride the c0ck carrousel for a few more years. When Im a single mom and unable to compete with younger girls, he will probably still be available and he will be a good beta provider. I will do him the favor of marrying him then. "
 

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"He´s a great catch but he doesnt give me vaginal tingles. I´m gonna put him in the friendzone while I wait around for Chad and/or ride the c0ck carrousel for a few more years. When Im a single mom and unable to compete with younger girls, he will probably still be available and he will be a good beta provider. I will do him the favor of marrying him then. "
Don't be that guy. Most SoSuave forum posters are wise enough not to be that guy. Outside of SoSuave, there are plenty of men willing to be that guy because that's one of their better options for getting their penises wet.
 

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"He´s a great catch but somethings missing" is girl talk for:

"He´s a great catch but he doesnt give me vaginal tingles. I´m gonna put him in the friendzone while I wait around for Chad and/or ride the c0ck carrousel for a few more years. When Im a single mom and unable to compete with younger girls, he will probably still be available and he will be a good beta provider. I will do him the favor of marrying him then. "
So much truth spoken for the majority of women on this.

I can't resist but to add:

"And while I'm enjoying my c0ck carrousel in my early 30s let me f1uck around with guys and play hard to get and once I reach 35 and not a single guy will be interested in f1ucking me while they will be going for the 20-25 year olds I will start to regret my life decisions because i COULD have played it differently with that ONE guy I met who made my p1ussy wet but yet I still played it hard to get because that's who I am. Rule-based and structured and I'm the sh1t"
 

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"He´s a great catch but somethings missing" is girl talk for:

"He´s a great catch but he doesnt give me vaginal tingles. I´m gonna put him in the friendzone while I wait around for Chad and/or ride the c0ck carrousel for a few more years. When Im a single mom and unable to compete with younger girls, he will probably still be available and he will be a good beta provider. I will do him the favor of marrying him then. "
This is so true...another reminder to burn that cap that says CSAH ( Caption save a h0e)
So much truth spoken for the majority of women on this.

I can't resist but to add:

"And while I'm enjoying my c0ck carrousel in my early 30s let me f1uck around with guys and play hard to get and once I reach 35 and not a single guy will be interested in f1ucking me while they will be going for the 20-25 year olds I will start to regret my life decisions because i COULD have played it differently with that ONE guy I met who made my p1ussy wet but yet I still played it hard to get because that's who I am. Rule-based and structured and I'm the sh1t"
How come its all this damn predictable?
 

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I wonder what's up with that. The infamous "something " seems to be a feeling that's exclusively felt by women. Its literally 100% women talking, writing and commenting on it.

I've never met a man or even read something about a woman whose a "great catch" but "something's "missing. If there's "something off" a man most of the time can pinpoint at it . Already a big difference: men think in "something is wrong" but womem think in "something is missing".

Chime in sosuave bros
When “something” is missing it either means that you do not sell her the idea that it can be more than sex, either she is not sexually attracted to you. Or in some cases, you are so amazing that she does not feel that she deserves you ( mental block from her end )

I still remember the time when there were 2 girls ( 1 fat and one gorgeous ) and asked my wing to go talk with the ugly a bit so I can go in and make the hook with the good looking one. The ugly one was so shocked that the guy went to talk to her that she destroyed the whole set by acting like a retard
 
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This is a good observation by OP.

Our current society is still kinda based on the monogamous marriage type of system, so evry guy wud get a wife, and in this system there was not much competition for women cos with 1-1 paring evry1 got paired with their socio-ecomic-looks match.

But in nature it is not like this. In nature it is primarily men competing for women.

For the guys that 'something' is not important in women, cos men are competing for women, they just care if they get the woman.

For a woman tho, that 'something' is what causes her to be attracted and stay with the man. It is what causes him win her over other guys.

Hence, that something is only found in men. In reality that 'something' is what characterises Alpha males.

That 'something' is what pimps had in ubundance. Its the ability to draw ppl esp women towards you, a type of power that causes others to talk and think about the guy.

Women definitely also have that 'something' but they all have it and the main thing is that women dont vary as much as men. But most men dont have any, That 'something' is just Game.
 

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This is a good observation by OP.

Our current society is still kinda based on the monogamous marriage type of system, so evry guy wud get a wife, and in this system there was not much competition for women cos with 1-1 paring evry1 got paired with their socio-ecomic-looks match.

But in nature it is not like this. In nature it is primarily men competing for women.

For the guys that 'something' is not important in women, cos men are competing for women, they just care if they get the woman.

For a woman tho, that 'something' is what causes her to be attracted and stay with the man. It is what causes him win her over other guys.

Hence, that something is only found in men. In reality that 'something' is what characterises Alpha males.

That 'something' is what pimps had in ubundance. Its the ability to draw ppl esp women towards you, a type of power that causes others to talk and think about the guy.

Women definitely also have that 'something' but they all have it and the main thing is that women dont vary as much as men. But most men dont have any, That 'something' is just Game.
Great great post.

So we back at "game". Whats your definition of "game"?
 

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Great great post.

So we back at "game". Whats your definition of "game"?
This is so hard to explain.

TBH since I've been here I've wanted to talk about how I interact with women ie Game but guys here and out there dont do things like this or get it. So I think there is v v little real Game out there from men. If there were women would be engagely much more with the dating market and with men in general.

Game can be expressed in many ways, starting from different concepts, but all ending in the same thing. Game is internalisation of ALL things positive that results in a winning psychology in Life.

Game is that which is expressed outwards, of a pyschology WITHIN, that causes a male to succeed in Life.

In a nutshell, imagine a guy who has evrything, more importantly he has no concerns, no need for validation, say he is content, not hungry, not suffering, not stressed, he has no urgency or immediate concerns. He has only good things in him.

How does such a person (male or female) behave and engage with the world and people. It is not the same the one who is hungry, stressed, suffering with many immediate concerns. The former is a winner lets say and the latter a loser.

In interactions with women, the winner is all about enjoying the interaction and not necessarily trying to get somewhere. More importantly, this guys doesnt feel pressure to act or behave in any way especially to move things forward quickly or try and hit some small window of opportunity.

Because this guy is emotionally stable and attuned he has the same emotional response to the interaction as the women. Thus this guy knows how the woman feels, more importantly, she feels how he feels, so if he keeps his emotional energy right she will feel the right energy.

Game is an objective thing meaning feelings are real. If the interactions between a man and a woman go coherently, then both parties will feel the same thing. For the guy, this is his Game. So the Game is that which you both feel. For the guy to feel what the woman is feeling he needs to be emotional stable enough not to let his own feelings get in the way. To be attuned means your own daily emotions need to be more calm. It also requires lots of empathy. Cats have lots of empathy, being hunters they need to be able to understand their prey in order to catch them. Hence you see pimps refer to themselves as cats.

Now, this is to do with winning energy, which is positive energy. You have to understand that energy is absorbed from others also, so a guy will absord energy from those he spends time with and emotionally engages with. So for most men, working and making money will cause them to lose positive energy in many way. One by being tired and stressed due to time spent at work, and possibly even worse, by spending time with other blue pilled normie losers and seeing himself as one of them. It is what it is. People have to do it.

You have to remember that normie society doesnt understand Game, even tho normie women do. This is why women have more freedoms at work like clothes and style.

As a guy, 90% of normal life will cause you to lose Game. This is why so few men have high Game. The biggest reason is interacting with normie men.

On top of that the relationship market and even other social conventions cause men to lose Game. For instance, many men lose power to women by feeling scarcity and accepting time pressure to move on opportunities.

Game requires that men take things slowly and allow things to drag on. Time can either be a friend or an enemy. The better guy always wins out over time. So Time favours Game. But men cannot use time to their advantage.

Most of mens flaws are because of monogamy. There is no point in developing Game if a guy is gonna have a job and be married to one girl. For men to realistically be able to elevate their Game, they will need to get into the Pimp mindset and aim to live with a few woman as wives, then he can use their income to live while his 'job' is to look after the house and do other side hustles or part-time work to make money. This is the only setuip I can think of that can cause men to raise their Game level.
 

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This is so hard to explain.

TBH since I've been here I've wanted to talk about how I interact with women ie Game but guys here and out there dont do things like this or get it. So I think there is v v little real Game out there from men. If there were women would be engagely much more with the dating market and with men in general.

Game can be expressed in many ways, starting from different concepts, but all ending in the same thing. Game is internalisation of ALL things positive that results in a winning psychology in Life.

Game is that which is expressed outwards, of a pyschology WITHIN, that causes a male to succeed in Life.

In a nutshell, imagine a guy who has evrything, more importantly he has no concerns, no need for validation, say he is content, not hungry, not suffering, not stressed, he has no urgency or immediate concerns. He has only good things in him.

How does such a person (male or female) behave and engage with the world and people. It is not the same the one who is hungry, stressed, suffering with many immediate concerns. The former is a winner lets say and the latter a loser.

In interactions with women, the winner is all about enjoying the interaction and not necessarily trying to get somewhere. More importantly, this guys doesnt feel pressure to act or behave in any way especially to move things forward quickly or try and hit some small window of opportunity.

Because this guy is emotionally stable and attuned he has the same emotional response to the interaction as the women. Thus this guy knows how the woman feels, more importantly, she feels how he feels, so if he keeps his emotional energy right she will feel the right energy.

Game is an objective thing meaning feelings are real. If the interactions between a man and a woman go coherently, then both parties will feel the same thing. For the guy, this is his Game. So the Game is that which you both feel. For the guy to feel what the woman is feeling he needs to be emotional stable enough not to let his own feelings get in the way. To be attuned means your own daily emotions need to be more calm. It also requires lots of empathy. Cats have lots of empathy, being hunters they need to be able to understand their prey in order to catch them. Hence you see pimps refer to themselves as cats.

Now, this is to do with winning energy, which is positive energy. You have to understand that energy is absorbed from others also, so a guy will absord energy from those he spends time with and emotionally engages with. So for most men, working and making money will cause them to lose positive energy in many way. One by being tired and stressed due to time spent at work, and possibly even worse, by spending time with other blue pilled normie losers and seeing himself as one of them. It is what it is. People have to do it.

You have to remember that normie society doesnt understand Game, even tho normie women do. This is why women have more freedoms at work like clothes and style.

As a guy, 90% of normal life will cause you to lose Game. This is why so few men have high Game. The biggest reason is interacting with normie men.

On top of that the relationship market and even other social conventions cause men to lose Game. For instance, many men lose power to women by feeling scarcity and accepting time pressure to move on opportunities.

Game requires that men take things slowly and allow things to drag on. Time can either be a friend or an enemy. The better guy always wins out over time. So Time favours Game. But men cannot use time to their advantage.

Most of mens flaws are because of monogamy. There is no point in developing Game if a guy is gonna have a job and be married to one girl. For men to realistically be able to elevate their Game, they will need to get into the Pimp mindset and aim to live with a few woman as wives, then he can use their income to live while his 'job' is to look after the house and do other side hustles or part-time work to make money. This is the only setuip I can think of that can cause men to raise their Game level.
But how does a man ..pff how do I word this. How does a man chases p00sy without the NEED for p00sy? Because far as I can tell a lotta men are(seemingly) content without women, but they basically also never have a woman. Makes sense, you only go after what's important to you.


I wonder how a man can chase something without needing it. If I refer to your cat/pimp metaphor, I think of "playing with the food".

Its rare to see a man being able to play the game with amused mastery rather than "frustrating necessity ". Eventually the latter seems to even push a man toward hookers or below average women for example. " I HAVE to get p00sy NOW, no matter what it takes!!!" Boom. 200 bucks lost in ten minutes and nothing to be proud of, OR boom hb5 wants a relationship now.
 

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Don't be that guy. Most SoSuave forum posters are wise enough not to be that guy. Outside of SoSuave, there are plenty of men willing to be that guy because that's one of their better options for getting their penises wet.
I agree . Just fecking DON'T be him. Although its seems like a reoccurring theme in modern dating.

I have to say that lately I'm practicing nofap( I will pay respect to the nofap thread later) . Not because of "pheromones " or some (imo) bs to become more attractive, but rather as a way to get more control over mu feeling of lust. Because ,as I said in my previous post and other posts in the past, I DID lower my standards now and then to get my D wet.

Since I'm practicing nofap i have SEEMINGLY more control over myself. E.g an hb5 (slvtty,
degenerate looking y'know the kind) I vaguely know via my friend yesterday crossed my path in a store and was literally undressing me with her eyes. She wants me for years now I'venoticed, I just almost never see her. So I felt (FELT) the familiar "(easy) p00sy alarm " but kept it at a light convo and moved on. At home I first felt like " shoulda coulda woulda" but a little later I realized that it would probably take one moment of " post nut clearity " to get tired of her azz, and be in another dramatic situation with a woman.

Felt like a victory. Small step for men, HUGE step for Gamisch...
 

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Frame. Frame is everything.

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Speak bro speak! Iam ESPECIALLY curious to your opinion tbh.

I kinda feel yall tho..a frame of total power, selfcontrol ,self fulfillment and confidence and experience ..like you're walking with a fefking crown on your head?
 
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