article: The Harsh Reality Men Face on Dating Apps ... and why more men are chronically, involuntarily single.

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Be careful he'll call you a Chad.

So you can decide the reason why you aren't getting laid just like that? Cool.

I'm a busycel when I don't have time to smash.
I'm a sleepcel when I would rather sleep.
I'm a whitecel when I can't pull girls because I'm white (self-proclaimed).
I'm a liftcel when I'd rather be lifting weights.

It's like trans rationale meets inceldom.

Pretty sure "incel" was the only term needed... if women aren't sleeping with you and you're fat, broke, ugly, and have a bad personality - maybe fix those things before blaming something else.
 

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-Cel is a cope.

I'm fat - wah
I'm short - wah
I'm bald - wah
I'm only attracted to women way hotter than me, its unfair - wah

If you have a problem that can be fixed through action, you don't have a problem.

YOU'RE FRAKIN LAZY.
 

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-Cel is a cope.

I'm fat - wah
I'm short - wah
I'm bald - wah
I'm only attracted to women way hotter than me, its unfair - wah

If you have a problem that can be fixed through action, you don't have a problem.

YOU'RE FRAKIN LAZY.
Yep. I think everyone of my Cel- friends could escape inceldom if they put in the effort. They won’t get hotties. But they’ll get an appropriate mate. As most people do.
 

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So you can decide the reason why you aren't getting laid just like that? Cool.

I'm a busycel when I don't have time to smash.
Why are you busy? If you are busy because you are at work and need to pay the bills, then that's more like poorcel.

Money & Muscle said:
I'm a sleepcel when I would rather sleep.
Why are you sleepy? If it's because you are juggling two or three jobs, or long work hours, because you need the money to pay the bills and are in a grind, then that's poorcel too.

Money & Muscle said:
I'm a whitecel when I can't pull girls because I'm white (self-proclaimed).
Are you going after ethnic girls or just hb7.5+ white girls?

Money & Muscle said:
I'm a liftcel when I'd rather be lifting weights.
You are Gymmaxxing by building muscles to raise your SMV (ie looks)
 

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So you can decide the reason why you aren't getting laid just like that? Cool.

I'm a busycel when I don't have time to smash.
I'm a sleepcel when I would rather sleep.
I'm a whitecel when I can't pull girls because I'm white (self-proclaimed).
I'm a liftcel when I'd rather be lifting weights.

It's like trans rationale meets inceldom.

Pretty sure "incel" was the only term needed... if women aren't sleeping with you and you're fat, broke, ugly, and have a bad personality - maybe fix those things before blaming something else.
I think you miss the point of the -Cel term. Any negative trait that has bearing on the ability to secure women is a regular -Cel trait: ShortCel, FaceCel, FrameCel, BaldCel, PoorCel, EthnicCel, AutCel, etc. But traits which should be positive but not end up helping much are ironic -Cel traits: GymCel, CareerCel, ReligionCel, etc. It should be noted that there pretty much isn't the RichCel category since you could be all the other -Cels combined, and you'll still slay.
 

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Come to think of it, I might not be a poorcel (ie despite my income is around $ 20K per year, which would definitely put me in that category), as much as a locationcel (ie living situation). My living situation is more dominant than my low-income at the moment, or perhaps, both are evently split.

Just found that new definition today: https://incels.wiki/w/Locationcel

Whites who can't get girls because they are white, are also at best Locationcels (ie because they are in the wrong location). Tend to see this with a number of people here thb.

This looks like it was added recently.
 

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I think you miss the point of the -Cel term. Any negative trait that has bearing on the ability to secure women is a regular -Cel trait: ShortCel, FaceCel, FrameCel, BaldCel, PoorCel, EthnicCel, AutCel, etc. But traits which should be positive but not end up helping much are ironic -Cel traits: GymCel, CareerCel, ReligionCel, etc. It should be noted that there pretty much isn't the RichCel category since you could be all the other -Cels combined, and you'll still slay.
I disagree slightly as I think too many labels is confusing and looks crazy. By selecting one or two that's the MOST impactful I think is the best way to go. For example, you are a shortcel. I'd leave it at that. That is because you talk about height allot in your posts, etc...
I might also label you as as an escortcel because you've self-admitted to regularly visiting escorts.

The escortcel one is a wierd label since it doesn't fit the profile your other cel definitions. In my opinion, it should not be called "cel/celling", but more like cope (ie escort-cope, or escort-coping), unless of course you really love visiting escorts and talking about it to every prospecting girl you are meeting and throwing them off, then that would be a more appropriate cel suffix, lol! But then that would be a "mental-cel".
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Anyone in a country with high levels of immigration are pretty much going to be LocationCels, and the same thing for any Muslim country. Of course, this can be countered by GeoMaxxing.
So if you can't afford to GeoMax, is the dominant cell still locationcel or poorcel (ie as you can't afford to travel or have a high enough income, or can work abroad and get paid for online work, etc...). Passport bros have effectively eliminated ethnicels to a degree and replaced that a bit to geomaxxing/poorcel (if can't afford to geomaxx) as well.
 

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I saw a YouTube video recently that said the breakdown on Tinder is 70% men and 30% women. Take out the bots and <HB7 women and that eliminates another 60% of the 30% so that's about 12% of the women getting swipes by huge volumes of men. I've been on Tinder the past 2 weeks and can say the action is much slower for me vs Hinge and Bumble. They all suck, but I'd say Hinge has been the best for me.
 

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I disagree slightly as I think too many labels is confusing and looks crazy. By selecting one or two that's the MOST impactful I think is the best way to go. For example, you are a shortcel. I'd leave it at that. That is because you talk about height allot in your posts, etc...
I might also label you as as an escortcel because you've self-admitted to regularly visiting escorts.

The escortcel one is a wierd label since it doesn't fit the profile your other cel definitions. In my opinion, it should not be called "cel/celling", but more like cope (ie escort-cope, or escort-coping), unless of course you really love visiting escorts and talking about it to every prospecting girl you are meeting and throwing them off, then that would be a more appropriate cel suffix, lol! But then that would be a "mental-cel".
No, the idea is to EscortMax, not just be an EscortCel. I don't think Cope is the proper term either since Cope would mean not even EscortMaxxing.
 

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No, the idea is to EscortMax, not just be an EscortCel. I don't think Cope is the proper term either since Cope would mean not even EscortMaxxing.
EscortMaxxing? I've never heard of that term. What would you gain by going with escorts, in terms of that spilling over into civvies and finding a girlfriend who loves you? You've used escorts, did a gf magically pop out of space afterwards? In an eerie sense, when I did visit an escort back in December, 2014 I did meet a girl the next year and often attributed both events together. It's like visiting an escort created a love-void (for women) where I felt I was going to connect with love in a specific bike trail, and I ended up approaching a girl and french kissing her in 2015.

Escort-coping makes sense because while it's not directly helping you meet real "civvie" (assuming you don't subscribe to any hocus-pocus), it is managing the pain of rejection and giving you access to female attention & touch which can be theraputic in and of itself. Much like onlyfans is like escort-lite coping (ie if subbing and interacting with escorts through that medium).
 

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Come to think of it, I might not be a poorcel (ie despite my income is around $ 20K per year, which would definitely put me in that category), as much as a locationcel (ie living situation). My living situation is more dominant than my low-income at the moment, or perhaps, both are evently split.

Just found that new definition today: https://incels.wiki/w/
interesting site. Trying to dx my friend-cels. maybe a spectrum from mentalCel to nerd.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I work full time and have a 2 hour daily commute. I also attend school full time in pursuit of a higher paying degree. I also lift 3-4x weekly for an hour a day. I also like to spend time with my wife and daughter on occasion. I also still get laid 5-6x weekly, just not every day, so I'm usually only an incel for a day or two at a time.
I make ~150k/year when working 40 hour weeks at 29 years old; does that qualify as a poorcel?


That's where you're wrong. I lift to keep the voices away. The byproduct of that is looking better than fatcels, or skinnycels, or any other -cel you want to make up.
based. Lifting to keep the voices away.
 

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I saw a YouTube video recently that said the breakdown on Tinder is 70% men and 30% women. Take out the bots and <HB7 women and that eliminates another 60% of the 30% so that's about 12% of the women getting swipes by huge volumes of men. I've been on Tinder the past 2 weeks and can say the action is much slower for me vs Hinge and Bumble. They all suck, but I'd say Hinge has been the best for me.
Hinge is goated for the hot girls. I have a better body than 98% of dudes and i still get matched with fatties and get the hotties once in a while.
 

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Enter the judge.

No wonder the dating market is fvcked up.

So what are you doing to adapt? Crying won't help you. Level up instead. I'll commend you if you're improving yourself.

You are actually bragging about dumpster diving and claiming you had to be a top tier guy to hook up with that? Totally gross.

Well she was getting a lot of attention in the club. And whatever dating apps she used. Having perky nipples at 60 helps! ;) She was a case of attracted to me from the get-go AKA saw me as Tyrone. For most guys that aren't high value, there's a 1/256 chance that happens. I'm not some male model, I just chose to get out the house. I've never gotten laid by sitting and playing Crash Bandicoot, nor have I gotten a job offer from Naughty Dog to design levels for it. For me, this was just a "right place right man right time." And I'm not completely a Tyrone.

No wonder guys have to check out.

Chad and Tyrone aren't checking out. Bob and John are checking out, many are becoming "Passport bros." Women here don't care about that since it makes S-tier men more visible. I have a passport, yes. Just to travel and enjoy life outside of Nintendo. I got laid in Tahiti earlier this year on vacation while levelling up. You should do the same if not similar.

If you aspire to be a top tier guy you might be able to pull a bottom feeder.

Always be improving yourself. I'm not a millionaire yet, nor am I Tyrone. I just have standards and carry myself like Tyrone.

Wow. I can't believe I read that post.

I can. I wanted to grip a woman's body instead of my Playstation controller, and my D hadn't released in 6 weeks at the time.

Sick on so many levels. You can't blame anyone for not wanting to self-improve at this point.

The more fitting question is how are you self-improving? Not self-improving is sick on so many levels. I can pull younger and hotter, just not consistently like I'd prefer to. But if a cute milf showed sexual interest in you in a bar/club, you'd smash instead of going home alone to play Fortnite. Please don't kid yourself.

You are better off escortcelling. At least you get young 20-something year olds that look hot.

At 1K an hour, that money's better spend elsewhere. I have a Lexus which is nicely modified and doing so is a hobby. I do the same for both my dad's Chrysler and his fiancée's Toyota. All of these are running nicely and I'm gonna make sure they stay that way. I'm making 60K this year via work, and I'm investing in sensible stocks. I don't do the escort stuff. FAIK any given woman I smashed this year could be a sex worker or stripper by night.


Read betwe- You know what to do.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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