article: The Harsh Reality Men Face on Dating Apps ... and why more men are chronically, involuntarily single.

[Pierce Manhammer]

Just about any man who isn’t horribly disfigured could arrange to have sex, might not be with the woman he’d like to have sex with, but they could get sex from a woman.

There really, truly is no such thing as a true involuntary celibate, they choose not to put in the effort to have sex. Again, sex is available if you want it, it just isn’t going to be with a woman you’d like to have sex with.

The incel CHOOSES not to improve his lot in life - they’ll sit here all day talking about how women this and that and chads this and that. Hell they KNOW what makes them less attractive - what do they do? Beetch and moan here, they’re not out there losing the 40lbs they need to, or getting ripped, or taking a public speaking class because it’s easier to complain than to move into action.

You are free to make your own choices, but you’re not free of the consequences of your choices.

p.s. would I like to bed hotter chicks? F-yeah I would, but I’ve risen to the level I play at, once in a blue moon I’ll be able to get a 8.5/9 but it’s very rare. I accept my lot in life.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Meanwhile I’ll never have a BBC

I’ll never be tall. We’re all missing something

 

[I_have_BDE]

They were bad before covid, the OLD sites but nothing like they're now. A lot better looking women before covid and not that hard to get an ok reply rate. Now I see tons more fat ugly women on OLD than hot ones.

 

[IKO69]

Just about any man who isn’t horribly disfigured could arrange to have sex, might not be with the woman he’d like to have sex with, but they could get sex from a woman.

There really, truly is no such thing as a true involuntary celibate, they choose not to put in the effort to have sex. Again, sex is available if you want it, it just isn’t going to be with a woman you’d like to have sex with.

The incel CHOOSES not to improve his lot in life - they’ll sit here all day talking about how women this and that and chads this and that. Hell they KNOW what makes them less attractive - what do they do? Beetch and moan here, they’re not out there losing the 40lbs they need to, or getting ripped, or taking a public speaking class because it’s easier to complain than to move into action.

You are free to make your own choices, but you’re not free of the consequences of your choices.

p.s. would I like to bed hotter chicks? F-yeah I would, but I’ve risen to the level I play at, once in a blue moon I’ll be able to get a 8.5/9 but it’s very rare. I accept my lot in life.

100%
Have to be willing to do whatever it takes, this will often entail stepping outside the comfort zone. For those unwilling: don't worry someone else will and will get the chix

 

[nismo-4]

Don’t swipe on apps. Let them come to you. Not only is that better leverage but it doesn’t destroy your algorithmic health

Let's all make a Tinder profile, play Minecraft, and then dimes will be swiping right on all of us a week later wanting to blow us.

Who are we kidding? If you're some male model Chad, Tyrone, or Charles, this could work in some capacity. If not, you'll need something to grab her attention. Women get too many DM'S, Men get too few DM'S.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Let's all make a Tinder profile, play Minecraft, and then dimes will be swiping right on all of us a week later wanting to blow us.

Who are we kidding? If you're some male model Chad, Tyrone, or Charles, this could work in some capacity. If not, you'll need something to grab her attention. Women get too many DM'S, Men get too few DM'S.

Do you feel better now?

 

[corrector]

The article may be showing a new trend from trying to distance from the term incel. Does saying "involuntary single and (unpaid) sexless" going to be becoming the new way of defining incel as that becomes staggeringly more common and feminists have demonized the incel term so that it's not possible to have a constructive dialogue (ie at least outside this board) on these types of topics without crazy feminists crying about patriarchy and that all incels are mass shooters, etc.... There is also a backlash against feminism as you see on youtube vids that guys aren't even bothering to show up to singles, or guys ghost girls that bring up feminism on a date, or even the backlash against the recent Barbie movie.

 

[Solomon]

You dont need to have one. A woman will be disappointed if they think I have one.

YOu're black? now things make sense but in a sad way

JBW is a reality. Easily adds a point to one’s SMV. It is undeniable.

I remember going out with a RSD in 2014 guy was 5'5, 140 pounds soaking wet, he was pulling left and right, mean I was 7 inches taller than him and in better shape and would get dust

Just about any man who isn’t horribly disfigured could arrange to have sex, might not be with the woman he’d like to have sex with, but they could get sex from a woman.

There really, truly is no such thing as a true involuntary celibate, they choose not to put in the effort to have sex. Again, sex is available if you want it, it just isn’t going to be with a woman you’d like to have sex with.

The incel CHOOSES not to improve his lot in life - they’ll sit here all day talking about how women this and that and chads this and that. Hell they KNOW what makes them less attractive - what do they do? Beetch and moan here, they’re not out there losing the 40lbs they need to, or getting ripped, or taking a public speaking class because it’s easier to complain than to move into action.

You are free to make your own choices, but you’re not free of the consequences of your choices.

p.s. would I like to bed hotter chicks? F-yeah I would, but I’ve risen to the level I play at, once in a blue moon I’ll be able to get a 8.5/9 but it’s very rare. I accept my lot in life.

Most incels are overweight and underweight, most incels also don't groom themselves (you ever seen these incels on livestreams when they came up? their hideous men)
Why would a hot chick with options lay down with a man she finds unattractive when she can lay with a man she finds attractive?
Most incels are entitled and think because they are "nice" guys, women should spread their legs i.e. Elliot "supreme Gentlemen" Rodger

The same incels wouldn't give a fat woman the chance, the mating game is survival of the fittest you wanna bang hotties you gotta be man of value whether it's game, looks, status, money, or all of the above.
Let incels cry their tears it makes the game easier for guys who are really putting the work in, AI girlfriends and companions are here most incels would settle for that and then try to improve to get a real woman, truly sad

 

[corrector]

Most incels are overweight and underweight, most incels also don't groom themselves (you ever seen these incels on livestreams when they came up? their hideous men)
Why would a hot chick with options lay down with a man she finds unattractive when she can lay with a man she finds attractive?
Most incels are entitled and think because they are "nice" guys, women should spread their legs i.e. Elliot "supreme Gentlemen" Rodger

The same incels wouldn't give a fat woman the chance, the mating game is survival of the fittest you wanna bang hotties you gotta be man of value whether it's game, looks, status, money, or all of the above.
Let incels cry their tears it makes the game easier for guys who are really putting the work in, AI girlfriends and companions are here most incels would settle for that and then try to improve to get a real woman, truly sad

But do you really believe that applies to everyone, or really to white incels who are just interested in hb7.5+ white women? You just said you were with an RSD guy who was 5'5, 140 lbs who was white and was pulling girls easy while you were in better shape, 7 inches taller, and just got dust. You also said you understand me in a sad way that I'm black.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

YOu're black? now things make sense but in a sad way



I remember going out with a RSD in 2014 guy was 5'5, 140 pounds soaking wet, he was pulling left and right, mean I was 7 inches taller than him and in better shape and would get dust

How? handsome? great game? super confident?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

YOu're black? now things make sense but in a sad way



I remember going out with a RSD in 2014 guy was 5'5, 140 pounds soaking wet, he was pulling left and right, mean I was 7 inches taller than him and in better shape and would get dust



Most incels are overweight and underweight, most incels also don't groom themselves (you ever seen these incels on livestreams when they came up? their hideous men)
Why would a hot chick with options lay down with a man she finds unattractive when she can lay with a man she finds attractive?
Most incels are entitled and think because they are "nice" guys, women should spread their legs i.e. Elliot "supreme Gentlemen" Rodger

The same incels wouldn't give a fat woman the chance, the mating game is survival of the fittest you wanna bang hotties you gotta be man of value whether it's game, looks, status, money, or all of the above.
Let incels cry their tears it makes the game easier for guys who are really putting the work in, AI girlfriends and companions are here most incels would settle for that and then try to improve to get a real woman, truly sad

My incel friends put almost no effort into their personal appearance. Eat junk. At least they don’t drink, smoke or do drugs. I told one friend, ‘lets go out & meet some girls.’. He said;’ I don’t like talking to people I don’t already know.’.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

That is why they are fakecel incel. Your ethnic friends are probably trucels (unless they had sex and never told you).

my Hapacel friend seems to get some positive attention from Asian women. But always tries (unsuccessfully) for White women. I’ve hinted he should consider Asian. But he just looks at me like I’m crazy.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Let's all make a Tinder profile, play Minecraft, and then dimes will be swiping right on all of us a week later wanting to blow us.

Who are we kidding? If you're some male model Chad, Tyrone, or Charles, this could work in some capacity. If not, you'll need something to grab her attention. Women get too many DM'S, Men get too few DM'S.

Ask a girl to show you her Tinder messages. The amount is staggering. My first Tinder date showed me her feed. over 60 guys were messaging her while we were setting up our date. I’m a guy and had way, way less Tinder matches than any girl. But even so, for me it was an information overload. I can’t even imagine what what hundreds of matches at once must do to ones brain.

 

[corrector]

Ask a girl to show you her Tinder messages. The amount is staggering. My first Tinder date showed me her feed. over 60 guys were messaging her while we were setting up our date. I’m a guy and had way, way less Tinder matches than any girl. But even so, for me it was an information overload. I can’t even imagine what what hundreds of matches at once must do to ones brain.

That is added to the fact that the only way you can send messages on Tinder is if there is a match (ie both parties have right-swiped each other). That means she right-swiped 60 guys she was matched with and if she's selecting the same 5% of the top-tier guys, that means she has an exponetialy higher amount of left-swipes you don't know about where there are no messages. What that tells me is that even if you right-swipe and get a match, it could almost mean nothing as well.

That is why another poster said its so bad, you can get your foot on the door by posting fake chad posts of yourself, and then message the girl and 5/10 times she'll even forget it was you when you change your profile picture to your real face. If you are talking about 60 message that both parties right-swiped, then that strategy is plausable.

 

[corrector]

My incel friends put almost no effort into their personal appearance. Eat junk. At least they don’t drink, smoke or do drugs. I told one friend, ‘lets go out & meet some girls.’. He said;’ I don’t like talking to people I don’t already know.’.

You have an interesting crew.

 

[corrector]

How? handsome? great game? super confident?

because he was white (I think Solomon said he was black in another post and sympathises with me because I'm black (although borderline white-passing as I'm lighter complexion then some dark whites, however...if my hair longer than an half-an-inch and if my skin darkens a bit more under the sun, along with some of my facial features, then I'd appear more black)).

 

[nismo-4]

Ask a girl to show you her Tinder messages. The amount is staggering. My first Tinder date showed me her feed. over 60 guys were messaging her while we were setting up our date. I’m a guy and had way, way less Tinder matches than any girl. But even so, for me it was an information overload. I can’t even imagine what what hundreds of matches at once must do to ones brain.

I actually had a girl once show me her DM'S from POF in 2019. Over 200. Oh, and she's past 60. And I smashed the first night. Women do have options, your quest is to be the best of those options. Those other guys were lame and boring to the 5th power, so I got in. Alas, there's competition for every woman. Pics of the woman in question enclosed.

 

[corrector]

I actually had a girl once show me her DM'S from POF in 2019. Over 200. Oh, and she's past 60. And I smashed the first night. Women do have options, your quest is to be the best of those options. Those other guys were lame and boring to the 5th power, so I got in. Alas, there's competition for every woman. Pics of the woman in question enclosed.

No wonder the dating market is fvcked up.
You are actually bragging about dumpster diving and claiming you had to be a top tier guy to hook up with that? Totally gross. No wonder guys have to check out.

If you aspire to be a top tier guy you might be able to pull a bottom feeder.

Wow. I can't believe I read that post. That sick on so many levels. You can't blame anyone for not wanting to self-improve at this point. You are better off escortcelling. At least you get young 20-something year olds that look hot.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

That is added to the fact that the only way you can send messages on Tinder is if there is a match (ie both parties have right-swiped each other). That means she right-swiped 60 guys she was matched with and if she's selecting the same 5% of the top-tier guys, that means she has an exponetialy higher amount of left-swipes you don't know about where there are no messages. What that tells me is that even if you right-swipe and get a match, it could almost mean nothing as well.

That is why another poster said its so bad, you can get your foot on the door by posting fake chad posts of yourself, and then message the girl and 5/10 times she'll even forget it was you when you change your profile picture to your real face. If you are talking about 60 message that both parties right-swiped, then that strategy is plausable.

That is added to the fact that the only way you can send messages on Tinder is if there is a match (ie both parties have right-swiped each other). That means she right-swiped 60 guys she was matched with and if she's selecting the same 5% of the top-tier guys, that means she has an exponetialy higher amount of left-swipes you don't know about where there are no messages. What that tells me is that even if you right-swipe and get a match, it could almost mean nothing as well.

That is why another poster said its so bad, you can get your foot on the door by posting fake chad posts of yourself, and then message the girl and 5/10 times she'll even forget it was you when you change your profile picture to your real face. If you are talking about 60 message that both parties right-swiped, then that strategy is plausable.

Girls have insisted on facetiming before the meet.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

because he was white (I think Solomon said he was black in another post and sympathises with me because I'm black (although borderline white-passing as I'm lighter complexion then some dark whites, however...if my hair longer than an half-an-inch and if my skin darkens a bit more under the sun, along with some of my facial features, then I'd appear more black)).

I can’t believe a short skinny guy can slay judt because he’s White.