Why women are so " complicated "

[alvinkels]

“Complicated” is just another word for damaged and messed up.

Not far from the truth... the more you deal with different types the more learn and avoid certain types. The love thing is a chemistry in the brain and if you allow yourself for that to happen and get consumed by it then it becomes a problem and women know this that's why they are extra careful when it comes to men because they know once they are in it difficult to come out. You can have a girl wanting to f**k your brains out but doesn't want to be with you. Most guys don't understand this and get attached. And their misunderstandings makes women complicated; know they are generally not you are the one absurd and obsessed

 

[pipeman84]

Just saw a video from a dating coach whose name I forgot , but it was about that the more intelligent a man is the more he might struggle with women.

His theory is that a "dumb" man simply thinks ,hot woman, ask her number and feck her. While a "intelligent " man thinks about all his theories and good and bad scenarios only to eventually shut down, or come across as a tryhard / awkward man.

100% agree with this. He basically described my attitude .. does that mean I'm an intelligent man?

And at 18-25 I was studying at university (I earned a BS and a BA in the same 4 years), was pre-Med, in student government and a sorority. I did not lose the V card until my early 20s with a serious boyfriend of 2 years. After that ended I dated the next boyfriend for 5 years. So ya. No carousel here, lol.

I had plenty of fun socializing but had no need to w h o r e around. I knew of girls who did of course and heard the disgusting things said about them too. I valued my reputation and always dated with an eye toward marriage. It’s how I was raised, and how I’ve raised my kids too.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but that doesn't make you an unicorn but a practically twice divorced woman. When you're with someone for 2 years, 5 years, you're for all intents and purposes married to the guy.
IMO both a former carousel rider and someone with a couple of several year-long failed relationships are poor prospects for LTR.

 

[Gamisch]

100% agree with this. He basically described my attitude .. does that mean I'm an intelligent man?


Sorry to rain on your parade, but that doesn't make you an unicorn but a practically twice divorced woman. When you're with someone for 2 years, 5 years, you're for all intents and purposes married to the guy.
IMO both a former carousel rider and someone with a couple of several year-long failed relationships are poor prospects for LTR.

it means you are socially not intelligent enough to understand the primal attraction game. Because, as I said, the process of talking to a woman and exchanging digits isn't rocket science.

Means you might understand Plato or whoever, but a 304 with a low iq intimidates you somehow..

 

[pipeman84]

Means you might understand Plato or whoever, but a 304 with a low iq intimidates you somehow..

It's not about intimidation ... I find the process of 'seducing' hoes an energy drain and also I just don't want to introduce into my life such a woman.
I also think we're not evolved to do this ... back in the day casual sex was linked either to prostitution or rape, while seducing was linked to the woman you wanted to protect, provide to and make her the mother of your children.

 

[Gamisch]

It's not about intimidation ... I find the process of 'seducing' hoes an energy drain and also I just don't want to introduce into my life such a woman.
I also think we're not evolved to do this ... back in the day casual sex was linked either to prostitution or rape, while seducing was linked to the woman you wanted to protect, provide to and make her the mother of your children.

How do you know you're seducing a h0e at first? Dont tell me you believe a woman in a suite or working in an office is not a h0e..

You'll only know if she's a h0e AFTER getting to know her.

Be honest: you're hding behind the mask being a man of principle. You are my age ,how you gonna find a;
- beautiful woman
-low count
-good characteristics
-good lifestyle
- younger than....30?
-smart
Ect ect ect.


Something gotta give bruh. I do like your style as you are a typical "guilty conscious" tuoe of dude ,but i cant keep but wondering what your date/sexlife looks like being so..stuck up on principles.

 

[SW15]

I wrote a thread several years ago here called How to Spot a Unicorn. I go into detail about what defines a good woman there.

And at 18-25 I was studying at university (I earned a BS and a BA in the same 4 years), was pre-Med, in student government and a sorority. I did not lose the V card until my early 20s with a serious boyfriend of 2 years. After that ended I dated the next boyfriend for 5 years. So ya. No carousel here, lol.

I had plenty of fun socializing but had no need to w h o r e around. I knew of girls who did of course and heard the disgusting things said about them too. I valued my reputation and always dated with an eye toward marriage. It’s how I was raised, and how I’ve raised my kids too.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but that doesn't make you an unicorn but a practically twice divorced woman. When you're with someone for 2 years, 5 years, you're for all intents and purposes married to the guy.
IMO both a former carousel rider and someone with a couple of several year-long failed relationships are poor prospects for LTR.

While @BeExcellent has a lower partner count that she could have had in theory, @pipeman84 also makes accurate statements here.

If @BeExcellent didn't lost her virginity until her early 20s, that was later in life than her peer group. In the 1984-1992 time period (when she would have been 15-23), most women were losing their virginity in the range of ages 15-18. So if @BeExcellent lost it at 22, that would have been 4-7 years later than most of her peers of that era, so they had 4-7 years more time to put up more partners. That reduced her potential partner count.

At a certain point, everyone is going to have a certain number of failed relationships and baggage from them. A history that includes a failed 2 year non-marital relationship, a failed 5 year non-marital relationship, and a divorce involving 3 kids is going to be a damaging. The last situation has the most damage on a woman's SMV. I'm not sure it is fair to count failed LTRs of 2+ years to be quasi marriages. If we count failed 2+ year relationships as "marriages", the average 30+ year old has more "divorces" to their names.

After how many partners does someone become a carousel rider? There are data points that show that the more partners a woman has prior to marriage, marital outcomes are typically worse. This focuses more on first time brides, but we do know that 2nd and 3rd marriages tend to fail more than 1st marriages. If a 1st marriage fails, many people might be wise in forgoing any future marriages if they want to avoid future divorces.

 

[Redwood]

There is another factor thzt is causing men to be unable to connect with women. Diet and environment. I pesonally think something in the environment is causing men to be more feminized.

I'd say it's moreso the environment.

 

[CornbreadFed]

This is nonsense. We eat relatively the same thing and drink the same water.

 

[pipeman84]

How do you know you're seducing a h0e at first? Dont tell me you believe a woman in a suite or working in an office is not a h0e..

The point is that one knows very early on based on word of mouth, appearance, body language, how she carries herself and interacts with you and other people if that person is LTR material or not ... ever heard married people say 'I knew within the first month I'm gonna marry him/her' ?
Many times it takes just a look and it's enough ... for instance I see a woman with tatts, bolt-ons and injected lips ... am I gonna seduce that? Why would I invite that in my life?

 

[CornbreadFed]

Who is this aimed at?

the diet making men more feminine

 

[pipeman84]

I'm not sure it is fair to count failed LTRs of 2+ years to be quasi marriages. If we count failed 2+ year relationships as "marriages", the average 30+ year old has more "divorces" to their names.

I think it is, because it shows you what kind of 'expiration date' her relationships have. You're practically forewarned you're dealing with a bomb with delayed firing. So you have a woman who reaches 30yrs old and has had 2 relationships, one of 2 years and one of 5 years. Now you're going to marry her and start a family? Firstly, you're taking on legal responsibilities to get what the other 2 guys got for free so to speak. Secondly, you really must feel lucky or be naive to think you'll happily pass the 5yrs mark.

 

[Gamisch]

The point is that one knows very early on based on word of mouth, appearance, body language, how she carries herself and interacts with you and other people if that person is LTR material or not ... ever heard married people say 'I knew within the first month I'm gonna marry him/her' ?
Many times it takes just a look and it's enough ... for instance I see a woman with tatts, bolt-ons and injected lips ... am I gonna seduce that? Why would I invite that in my life?

I still haven't figured out whether I should love you or hate you bruh

 

[CornbreadFed]

Do you think the man who eats 100% soy protein, and only enough to meet minimum FDA values (50g/day) looks more or less feminine than the man who eats a variety of meats at 1 gram per pound of bodyweight?

Do you think vegans are equally masculine to those on high protein diets?

This depends on the individual and their lifestyle/exercise. It is possible to build muscle and look masculine on a vegetarian/vegan diet with the correct ratio macros, genetics, and exercise. When your average American man looks like a fat busted can of pilsbury biscuits and isn't practicing veganism/vegetarianism at all...Idk how you can make this statement.

Your typical non vegetarian american looks like this:

You call this strong and masculine?

 

[CornbreadFed]

This is an incredible display of a bad faith argument.

You literally opened up with a bad faith argument lol.

I asked you to compare two types of people who adhere to dietary requirements (vegans and likely bodybuilders), and you go off to compare the average american.

Again, case in point, opening with a bad faith argument. Bodybuilders are aiming to build muscle which is a masculine quality. Vegans are vegans due to a lifestyle not to achieve a masculine look. The stupidest thing is that you can be a vegan and a bodybuilder too. You know how Proteins and Building Muscles work right??? Does it really matter if you are getting the correct macros from beans vs hamburger meat? Not really! I bet you the dude at the bottom could pull a hotter girl than that fat fvck though.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Nice cherry picked picture, autistic bro . That fata$$ doesn't eat meat only, he eats processed foods all the time, like pizza, donuts, cakes. Try to eat 1,000 calories in meat only and you'll see how full you'll be. Stop embarrassing yourself.

So is your water source and every detailed ingredient in your diet coming from your backyard self controlled farm or are you buying the same shvt from Kroger just like us and injesting the same tap water/bottled water?

 

[CornbreadFed]

I have a Puronics Filtering System that they use in NASA with 2 systems of filtering the water

As a former mega conspiracy theorist, I still believe in some lol...I wouldn't trust anything the US government uses lol. This is just a personal opinion though. What about your farm, mill, and etc?

 

[CornbreadFed]

So is he more or less masculine than the fat*ss you posted?

I'd say more so, but you will probably disagree. Dude literally looks like a pilsbury doughboy, other guy looks like he could pull off some Viking/Gallowglass look if he put in the effort.

 

[Gamisch]

I'd say more so, but you will probably disagree. Dude literally looks like a pilsbury doughboy, other guy looks like he could pull off some Viking/Gallowglass look if he put in the effort.

Perhaps they are both douchebags?

I agree that the skinny dude has WAY more potential.

 

[BeExcellent]

Here’s the thing @pipeman84 the first boyfriend I dated who I lost the V card to etc., he cheated on me, because of my inexperience. Ain’t that a thing? Broke my heart too. I left him because I’m not going to be with a cheater.

The five year boyfriend proposed to me very early on (six months into the relationship) and I didn’t feel I knew him well enough at that point to get married. We dated another 4.5 years. I discovered almost 5 years in that he was sleeping around behind my back here & there. He loved me but thought he could get away with it. It broke the trust, and I broke it off, which broke his heart in a major way. His mother, who I was very close with, told me a number of times that he often lamented how he treated me, I was the one that got away.

So nope, those are nowhere near divorces. Those are guys who were not worth marrying in the end.

The thing you guys need to understand is this. When you are an attractive woman men give you every opportunity to have sex at random. It takes principle & character to say no to this constant bombardment. I don’t think the average man has any idea about this because the average man doesn’t have women throwing themselves at him constantly the way a beautiful woman does, and so the whole concept is foreign. Every man wants something off a beautiful woman, and so as a beautiful woman you have to know that and be quite choosy in who you get involved with.

Some guys here are going to find fault with any woman. Ok fine. Good luck with all that, seriously.

 

[pipeman84]

Here’s the thing @pipeman84 the first boyfriend I dated who I lost the V card to etc., he cheated on me, because of my inexperience. Ain’t that a thing? Broke my heart too. I left him because I’m not going to be with a cheater.

The five year boyfriend proposed to me very early on (six months into the relationship) and I didn’t feel I knew him well enough at that point to get married. We dated another 4.5 years. I discovered almost 5 years in that he was sleeping around behind my back here & there. He loved me but thought he could get away with it. It broke the trust, and I broke it off, which broke his heart in a major way. His mother, who I was very close with, told me a number of times that he often lamented how he treated me, I was the one that got away.

They both cheated on you ... you're the common denominator here. I don't believe there were no signs these 2 guys were no good ... actually I think they were 'bad boys' and you thought you're going to tame them. And after two relationships, one of 2yrs and the other of 5yrs you married your husband after 6 months of dating. How does that work?! A marriage that unsurprisingly ended in divorce. (of course, his fault, according to you.)