The Pitfalls Of Dating Masculine Women!

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I have dated masculine women before and they are probably the hardest to handle in terms of getting them to reveal their feminine side.

I hated the whole experience it was just like dating a man, it was the same feeling. Over-aggressive trying to take control of everything and trying to change date plans, and time.

Now the good thing about this kind of women is they are usually quite good in bed. But that's it you can't have a relationship with this type of women you will suffer.

It will be a constant fight for power in the relationship.
 

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Do you mean me specifically? I don’t have an Eastern European woman and if I were single likely wouldn’t pursue an American woman born in Eastern Europe.

I simply sake you that question and similar ones to men who stay with women they don’t seem fond of.
There's pros and cons to everything in life. I gave you the most straightforward pros and cons not an explanation of why I don't like a person. I have dated NEET, traditionalist, and careerist or masculine women and I much prefer the cons of the masculine woman.
 

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1). Easier to get along with outside sex. Whether it is playing video games, athletics, growth mindset…You can bond with her easier than other girls because she values masculine things.

2). They tend to pay for you more or be willing to split the bill

3). They are more autonomous which gives you more space.

4). They tend to have the highest sex drives from my personal experience.

5). I rarely have to deal with their families or parents because they tend to be more financially independent.

6). We share more common interests. I just can’t mentally get along with a NEET or girl with low ambition.
Thats all more or less true..... and i am not gonna lie, its kinda cool as long as you are just fvckbuddies and see each other 2 days a week.


Its starting to get complicated when they move in, get married with kids. At this point you will rather want that compliant/obediant, feminine woman.

While it seems to be a good idea to have a woman thats doing masculine things with you (sports, shooting, fishing, whatever) in a FWB-situation, you will find out in a LTR that you have her on your back ALL THE TIME while you´d rather go do shyt on your own or with your buddies.

Also its most likely that she will fight you over everything else except the things you do together for fun.
 

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Its starting to get complicated when they move in, get married with kids. At this point you will rather want that compliant/obediant, feminine woman.
I disagree because they are more than likely to bring more of a financial contribution to the table vs a NEET or traditionalist woman will be a financial parasite. Things a traditionalist NEET woman can provide can simply be paid for in services or I do it myself. I can not just make an extra 100k plus k appear out of nowhere. In addition, any woman can turn in to a non-compliant cvnt tbh. Plus, if you get divorced from this woman than you have way more to lose due to her financial status.

While it seems to be a good idea to have a woman thats doing masculine things with you (sports, shooting, fishing, whatever) in a FWB-situation, you will find out in a LTR that you have her on your back ALL THE TIME while you´d rather go do shyt on your own or with your buddies.
This would be more of a problem with your NEET/Traditionalist woman because they are going to have less autonomy and more dependent on you. A more independent woman is going to more than likely have friends of her own, her own hobbies, and be more comfortable doing things by herself.

Also its most likely that she will fight you over everything else except the things you do together for fun.
Women that do not RESPECT you will fight with you, play constant shvt tests, and etc. This has nothing to do with the nature of the girl.
 

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Would I have rather not had to deal with the masculine things? YES. But they can be muted out if you're doing your part right. r/MarriedRedPill has a lot of solid content for these kinds of things. Probably not worth the effort if not married though.
This so much. These women tend to have lives and less time and energy to play bullshvt games.
 

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My wife had some masculine traits that irritated the f*ck out of me for a long while. Combative/argumentative? Yes. To be fair, I didn't know what the f*ck I was doing.

Then I started upping my game and made myself look sexy, 5x'd my income, started leading the relationship, made sure she knew other women were interested in me physically (dread, some active but mostly passive), then I started telling her I didn't like her combative side. She didn't see it, until I started pointing it out, saying "no" and putting my foot down regularly... then it started clicking. She realized that her value was going down while mine was going up - and if we split, that I could upgrade but she would HAVE to downgrade.

I also upped my sex game a lot. Went from relatively vanilla sex into **** and incorporating DEVI concepts. Sex frequency increased three or four-fold.

We've been restructuring our relationship for a couple months now and we've never been in a better place, or had sex this good or frequently. Crazy how that works.

Would I have rather not had to deal with the masculine things? YES. But they can be muted out if you're doing your part right. r/MarriedRedPill has a lot of solid content for these kinds of things. Probably not worth the effort if not married though.
I can see how putting this kinda effort is worthwhile in a marriage. Especially when you have financial ties and maybe have children together.

However in a short relationship, 7-8 months, with you living separately and only seeing each other twice a week or so... I can see how the squeeze isn't worth the juice!

I mean it's likely you will get fed up of it all, well before you get to the leveling up stage.
 
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Likely the case. BUT if you are doing your part right, you've got not leveling up to do and she should already be turning that masculinity off for you... unless she's a brainwashed feminist.

IDC if my wife is masculine around other people - truly. So long as she is feminine with me and provides a great traditional role model for our daughter, I'm happy.

True but some girls are just crazy dude. You could have a great job, hitting the gym hard, on your purpose/grind, and she still acting crazy, especially if she is hot.
 

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I'd always rather my wife not work. I make enough where she doesn't have do. But I don't want her working because I don't want her to be submissive to anyone... Except me. I do want her to be entirely submissive to me, which is much harder to do if she's spending all day appeasing the wants/needs of another (probably male) leader (read: boss).
I never thought of it like that. A person only has so much capacity(to submit).
 

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I disagree because they are more than likely to bring more of a financial contribution to the table vs a NEET or traditionalist woman will be a financial parasite.

Things a traditionalist NEET woman can provide can simply be paid for in services or I do it myself. I can not just make an extra 100k plus k appear out of nowhere. In addition, any woman can turn in to a non-compliant cvnt tbh. Plus, if you get divorced from this woman than you have way more to lose due to her financial status.

This would be more of a problem with your NEET/Traditionalist woman because they are going to have less autonomy and more dependent on you. A more independent woman is going to more than likely have friends of her own, her own hobbies, and be more comfortable doing things by herself.

Women that do not RESPECT you will fight with you, play constant shvt tests, and etc. This has nothing to do with the nature of the girl.
Well its a theorie.... but no.

The more she earns, the more of a pain in the ass she will be. Its no coincidence that divorce rate is higher with "more educated" women.

Id rather have that obedient "parasite" that thinks i am the best that she can get vs. the boss biatch that will allways think she deserves better and feels entitled to demand from me.

The solution to not getting divorce-raped is dont get married. Thats what i would recommend.
If you get into marriage with a woman that earns more then you, it will be even harder to keep her on her heels.

Id say you dont know a lot about LTR´s and keeping/maintaining women. Why dont you get into a LTR for a change and move in with a boss biatch?
Lets see how your plan works out after a couple of years.

As Mike Tyson put it: Everyone has a plan until he gets punched in the mouth
 

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Well its a theorie.... but no.

The more she earns, the more of a pain in the ass she will be. Its no coincidence that divorce rate is higher with "more educated" women.

Id rather have that obedient "parasite" that thinks i am the best that she can get vs. the boss biatch that will allways think she deserves better and feels entitled to demand from me.

The solution to not getting divorce-raped is dont get married. Thats what i would recommend.
If you get into marriage with a woman that earns more then you, it will be even harder to keep her on her heels.

Id say you dont know a lot about LTR´s and keeping/maintaining women. Why dont you get into a LTR for a change and move in with a boss biatch?
Lets see how your plan works out after a couple of years.

As Mike Tyson put it: Everyone has a plan until he gets punched in the mouth
When the chick is earning more than her man... It never ends well for the dude. Divorce is looming!
 

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Well its a theorie.... but no.

The more she earns, the more of a pain in the ass she will be. Its no coincidence that divorce rate is higher with "more educated" women.

Id rather have that obedient "parasite" that thinks i am the best that she can get vs. the boss biatch that will allways think she deserves better and feels entitled to demand from me.
This has nothing to do with a female's nature but more so a female not having respect for you from either poor vetting from the guy or losing frame in the relationship.

The solution to not getting divorce-raped is dont get married. Thats what i would recommend.
If you get into marriage with a woman that earns more then you, it will be even harder to keep her on her heels.
Who said the career woman has to make more than you?

Id say you dont know a lot about LTR´s and keeping women. Why dont you get into a LTR for a change and move in with a boss biatch?
Lets see how your plan works out after a couple of years.
Watch 90 Day Fiancé or review the countless help topics of guys getting one sided by NEET, Eastern European, and lower goal seeking women and tell me how is that a solid plan though?
 

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Pitfalls of a masculine woman.....her legs and armpits are harrier than yours.

And I pray to God for those that date these types that she has no butt crack hair.
 
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