Sh1t tests do NOT exist

[SmoothSmooth]

Disclaimer I am a chad. 6ft 2, 6 figures. Have been doing cold approach for 13 years. I probably have had better results than 99% of this forum and most pua coaches and I’m coming with genuine advic

Fellas there’s no such thing as a sh1t test. This whole concept pedestalises women as these extremely intelligent and calculating robots looking to deceive youand getting laid as a ‘game’ where you have to pass tests etc to get the prize. It was a concept created by false PUA coaches trying to get you to buy into their courses - ‘ you got rejected because you failed her genius level tests, I would have passed it, buy my course and I’ll show you how’ (funny how none of these coaches have genuinely hot 22 year old girlfriends)

After seducing so many women I can say with certainty than any experienced player will tell you this - women reveal their attraction/disinterest through their body language. This is a fact of nature and very easy to spot once you know what to look for. If she’s disinterested it will be obvious by her body language and tone, if she’s interested it will be obvious - IF YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE to know what to look for. Therefore pick up is actually very easy because I just approach and go off the signals she gives me.

There is a small % of women who are sociopathic and play crazy games - but these are women that you need to avoid unless you want ur life to be ruined - see the hot cold behaviour as a warning not a test, run.

Think of it like this. Do women sh1t test their bosses at work? Or their favourite celebrities?

at most, you can expect a late reply or a little obstacle before getting a date - in which a woman is trying to determine if you will get needy and start acting like an AFC (average frustrated chump).
These little obstacles are usually done in a very feminine and subtle way, are very easy to notice if you have any sense of social intelligence and don’t require much thought to figure out - and usually occur after the woman has already shown you many indicators of interested - women WANT you to pass them.

Here’s the thing. Women find most men unattractive and boring by default, so if she’s attracted to you, she will be ENJOYING THE INTERACTION WITH YOU. She will make it fun and enjoyable and it will flow freely.


If she’s not being feminine and warm, it’s low interest. For whatever reason. Just talk to someone else, unless you are desperate to convince a woman to ‘settle’ for you. My interactions with women are very simple. I start a simple convo and see if she ‘bites’, if she reciprocates my energy with equal/more interest then I just let it flow. But I never give more than I receive. I don’t need to. An attracted woman will keep the convo going.

when you are in a relationship with a woman, she may do a very subtle test of your strength here and there for example getting you skip work or you diet for her to see if she has power over you, but these are when she actually is invested in dating you…not a random stranger. Women do not care that much about random strangers cold approaching them to be thinking of schemes to sh1t test them

The truth is most women in life will reject you. Even me. With 13 years experience and having banged 8s and 9s (including same day lays), and being a chad, I get rejected MOST OF THE TIME. but realise it’s never a real rejection. It’s just indifference. And a woman’s default state is gonna be indifference because there are many factors out of ur control (ie her mood, logistics availability and preferences). Most women don’t think about sex as much as we do. It’s a numbers game. Most of the HOT women are not available, they are off the market because they are quick to find a guy from early.

 

[RazorRambo24]

To be fair, "Sh.it tests" is a complete buzz phrase that has no real definition.. so it's hard to say there aren't shi.t tests or they don't exist.. because its literally a buzz word that a variety of people might associate with different things.

There's definitely things women do on a psychological level to test a man-- and that goes without saying. Women's concept of reality is different in men in the sense that they utilize their psychological tactics to figure out things --where as men just go into things head on and use our assumptions to carry us, until proven otherwise- or we simply ask questions and try to figure things out. Women rely on the subtle arts of utilizing actions, bodylanguage, asking questions or telling stories to see our reactions, to figure us out and see what they like or don't like about us.

The rest of what you said is obvious stuff about interest and attraction.

Also, nice to see you made another post. I remember when you joined you had alot of posts that kept falling flat as people would disagree in droves.. then you'd keep making new posts and same thing would happen lol. But, Keep trying man maybe you'll convince someone of your perspectives, or might have some people who agree. However claiming you have 13 yrs of cold approach and are some chad, just to say you get "REJECTED MOST OF THE TIME" at the end of your post-- something doesn't add up..

 

[itouchyou]

I think some women do test men, just to understand his dominance level, and especially if he appears weak. It's not anything genius as you say, but from a Machiavellian perspective women rank much higher by default than men, simply because from an evolutionary perspective that's how they are wired since they don't have the brawn to compete with men. It may come off as genius to some men because they're so far behind in terms of social calibration. For example there was this woman I met a while back, much older, and I revealed some personal information early on that was a bit much, and for that reason when I reflected on our conversation later I realized that the entire time she could've been making things up just to bait me into showing interest, for her validation. Stuff like that isn't genius, but is just a very high level of Machiavellianism and/or social calibration, which I think most women are capable of.

Any "test" that comes my way is something I usually meet with indifference and/or amused mastery. That was how I reacted before I even know what those things meant, it just came naturally due to social calibration. I don't provide the validation women seek from those tests, if they intend to get me to fall through a certain hoop to validate their belief, I don't do it. It's never failed me so far.

That being said, I'm interested in hearing about the body language you talk about recognizing in women. In my experience it's simply consistent and focused eye contact. Women never look away from me.

 

[RazorRambo24]

I think some women do test men, just to understand his dominance level, and especially if he appears weak. It's not anything genius as you say, but from a Machiavellian perspective women rank much higher by default than men, simply because from an evolutionary perspective that's how they are wired since they don't have the brawn to compete with men. It may come off as genius to some men because they're so far behind in terms of social calibration. For example there was this woman I met a while back, much older, and I revealed some personal information early on that was a bit much, and for that reason when I reflected on our conversation later I realized that the entire time she could've been making things up just to bait me into showing interest, for her validation. Stuff like that isn't genius, but is just a very high level of Machiavellianism and/or social calibration, which I think most women are capable of.

Any "test" that comes my way is something I usually meet with indifference and/or amused mastery. That was how I reacted before I even know what those things meant, it just came naturally due to social calibration. I don't provide the validation women seek from those tests, if they intend to get me to fall through a certain hoop to validate their belief, I don't do it. It's never failed me so far.

That being said, I'm interested in hearing about the body language you talk about recognizing in women. In my experience it's simply consistent and focused eye contact. Women never look away from me.

Well said man. I think when any guy who has high self esteem and is well socially calibrated and understands the psychology of what type of little tests and tricks women throw at you and why, it becomes easy to deal with them, and as you said amusing or cute to deal with. When it comes to flirting, the most confident chicks have ways of testing a man's social and mental fortitude and self esteem and women like that can be real fun to flirt with, especially if you know how to respond /react to their little challenges/tests.

Not all women test guys in the ways some might, but regardless, even the ones that do, usually don't do it just for kicks..In approach they might challenge a guy for kicks to see how confident he is but its more of a flirtacious way, and not just to demean him. Though in nightlife circuits, you'll find the odd girl who really wants to just try and see what your made of. Afterall, some of these girls are used to being approached by hundreds of dudes, some capable and many just beyond their sails.

I can also name several reasons why women do tests/challenges for reasons that make more sense/are not meant to be manipulative in any way but I'm really trying not to make everyone of my posts so long. Initially mentioned it in my original response but then cut all that stuff out to make it shorter.

 

[Foe]

This guy. Im a chad listen to me, I know blah blah blah.

The epitome of an argument from authority. The only thing of substance was that you acknowledge you get rejected, the rest is pure horse sh!t.

Reminds me of Lucy the movie, where the antagonist was this ultra smart person where in reality the writers only knew so much, what was then left to project the idea she was actually intelligent was to refer to what she knew rather then to actually explain anything she knew.

You are like a writer on the stage of game, you can only refer to knowing the game, you have nothing of substance to offer.

 

[Learning Curve]

Disclaimer I am a chad. 6ft 2, 6 figures. Have been doing cold approach for 13 years. I probably have had better results than 99% of this forum and most pua coaches and I’m coming with genuine advic

Fellas there’s no such thing as a sh1t test. This whole concept pedestalises women as these extremely intelligent and calculating robots looking to deceive youand getting laid as a ‘game’ where you have to pass tests etc to get the prize. It was a concept created by false PUA coaches trying to get you to buy into their courses - ‘ you got rejected because you failed her genius level tests, I would have passed it, buy my course and I’ll show you how’ (funny how none of these coaches have genuinely hot 22 year old girlfriends)

After seducing so many women I can say with certainty than any experienced player will tell you this - women reveal their attraction/disinterest through their body language. This is a fact of nature and very easy to spot once you know what to look for. If she’s disinterested it will be obvious by her body language and tone, if she’s interested it will be obvious - IF YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE to know what to look for. Therefore pick up is actually very easy because I just approach and go off the signals she gives me.

There is a small % of women who are sociopathic and play crazy games - but these are women that you need to avoid unless you want ur life to be ruined - see the hot cold behaviour as a warning not a test, run.

Think of it like this. Do women sh1t test their bosses at work? Or their favourite celebrities?

at most, you can expect a late reply or a little obstacle before getting a date - in which a woman is trying to determine if you will get needy and start acting like an AFC (average frustrated chump).
These little obstacles are usually done in a very feminine and subtle way, are very easy to notice if you have any sense of social intelligence and don’t require much thought to figure out - and usually occur after the woman has already shown you many indicators of interested - women WANT you to pass them.

Here’s the thing. Women find most men unattractive and boring by default, so if she’s attracted to you, she will be ENJOYING THE INTERACTION WITH YOU. She will make it fun and enjoyable and it will flow freely.


If she’s not being feminine and warm, it’s low interest. For whatever reason. Just talk to someone else, unless you are desperate to convince a woman to ‘settle’ for you. My interactions with women are very simple. I start a simple convo and see if she ‘bites’, if she reciprocates my energy with equal/more interest then I just let it flow. But I never give more than I receive. I don’t need to. An attracted woman will keep the convo going.

when you are in a relationship with a woman, she may do a very subtle test of your strength here and there for example getting you skip work or you diet for her to see if she has power over you, but these are when she actually is invested in dating you…not a random stranger. Women do not care that much about random strangers cold approaching them to be thinking of schemes to sh1t test them

The truth is most women in life will reject you. Even me. With 13 years experience and having banged 8s and 9s (including same day lays), and being a chad, I get rejected MOST OF THE TIME. but realise it’s never a real rejection. It’s just indifference. And a woman’s default state is gonna be indifference because there are many factors out of ur control (ie her mood, logistics availability and preferences). Most women don’t think about sex as much as we do. It’s a numbers game. Most of the HOT women are not available, they are off the market because they are quick to find a guy from early.

Your analogy of women that do not ****test boses or celebrities does not really make any sense to be honest.

I understand where you are coming from saying that you figured out the game, and six figures and all that. But if you believe that women do no test the strength of a man and is just "body language" as you state i believe you don't understand the core analogy of how women work.

Sh1test yes i agree it has been developed by pickup artists as a name for something that women do to essentially test men. But whatever the name implies it actually exists. Women will sh1test guys without them even knowing they are doing it. You have to understand that since you have been doing this for 13 years if a hot 10 has 20 guys approaching her, with the same dysfunctional beta behavior she has no choice but to sh1test a guy to remove and filter the needy ones.

Body language is a part-of it. Yes.

You also said that women do not think about sex as much as we do. I strongly disagree with this.

This depends on the woman. Most women do think about sex as much as guys do. And it's normal this is nature and how it works.

Some women display their sexual intentions some do not. This depends on how you show up, and once you actually get familiar with a woman and she is open to you she will display her sexual intentions as long as you are leading the way.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

It's only a sh*t test if you make it one.

 

[kavi]

****s test definitely do exist but it is a general and vague term that could just refer to female 'Game' in general. Being a good looking guy is one thing, but that is not high quality in a womens eyes, a woman still needs to test a guys mettle, cos even good looking chad tier guys could be a soft and weak on the inside, and women dont want that, hence the reason for sh1t tests.

Next thing you'll be saying Game doesnt exist lols.

 

[characternote]

Disclaimer I am a chad. 6ft 2, 6 figures. Have been doing cold approach for 13 years. I probably have had better results than 99% of this forum

very nice! You're an alpha male super chad. Lucky to have you on the forum!

But yeah, I think '**** tests' are a bit over-rated too, although i guess it also depends on context.
In terms of cold approaching a hot young girl at a bar, a lot of people are like ''She was $hit testing me by ignoring me and not talking back and I guess I didn't pass the tests'' but in reality, he just wasn't her type. It wasn't a 'test'. It was a way for her to get him to leave her alone lol

 

[SargeMaximus]

Proof of Chad status is required even tho I agree with most of what you say

 

[Hal9000]

I agree with the OP that if a sane woman is in to a guy there are no tests or games. They tend to be putty in your hands and make things unbelievably easy. Now if the interest isn't really there then some of that may occur at which point you need to realize whats happening and head in the opposite direction. Why bother with a disinterested woman who wants to play childish games like you're some kind of circus clown?

 

[SmoothSmooth]

To be fair, "Sh.it tests" is a complete buzz phrase that has no real definition.. so it's hard to say there aren't shi.t tests or they don't exist.. because its literally a buzz word that a variety of people might associate with different things.

There's definitely things women do on a psychological level to test a man-- and that goes without saying. Women's concept of reality is different in men in the sense that they utilize their psychological tactics to figure out things --where as men just go into things head on and use our assumptions to carry us, until proven otherwise- or we simply ask questions and try to figure things out. Women rely on the subtle arts of utilizing actions, bodylanguage, asking questions or telling stories to see our reactions, to figure us out and see what they like or don't like about us.

The rest of what you said is obvious stuff about interest and attraction.

Also, nice to see you made another post. I remember when you joined you had alot of posts that kept falling flat as people would disagree in droves.. then you'd keep making new posts and same thing would happen lol. But, Keep trying man maybe you'll convince someone of your perspectives, or might have some people who agree. However claiming you have 13 yrs of cold approach and are some chad, just to say you get "REJECTED MOST OF THE TIME" at the end of your post-- something doesn't add up..

actually it shows I’m honest. Unlike most pua coaches.
Chads get rejected most of the time, unless we want to go for girls way below our smv. But the difference is that as a chad we know our value due to years of positive feedback, so we laugh off the rejections and strike gold more than most men.

for example I have been rejected by 4 girls this week but I also have one yes from a hot blonde for a date next week.

Eminem said it best ‘women they come and go’

 

[SmoothSmooth]

Women are not insanely socially calibrated or Machiavellian. If you think they are, you have no idea what you’re talking about. This idea of sh1t tests was created by socially awkward men that may have Asperger’s etc to make women and seduction seem like a complex battle.

In reality It’s men that are extremely Machiavellian, that make the best spy’s, run organised crime gangs etc and are way more able to climb dominance hierarchies using cunning and deception. Women are much less able to hold frame and see beyond their immediate needs and emotions.

Guys with low social skills/autism etc get into relationships with exploitative sociopathic/narcissistic women and call their behaviour ‘sh1t tests’. They are in relationships where the woman has all the power and ‘rewards’ them for passing tests. They know nothing of normal male-female dynamics based on attraction.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

****s test definitely do exist but it is a general and vague term that could just refer to female 'Game' in general. Being a good looking guy is one thing, but that is not high quality in a womens eyes, a woman still needs to test a guys mettle, cos even good looking chad tier guys could be a soft and weak on the inside, and women dont want that, hence the reason for sh1t tests.

Next thing you'll be saying Game doesnt exist lols.

Most of ‘game’ does not exist. That’s why most pua coaches from the 2000s have disappeared or ended up settling with mediocre women (or running boot camps in third world countries where they rely on their status/passport to get women).

the ONLY game that exists is high status behaviour and body language, knowing how to act smooth (appear non needy). that’s the only thing you can ‘learn’ and modify in your behaviour to improve interactions with women. Otherwise it’s just the obvious common sense of appealing to a woman’s instincts (looks, money, status, leadership/power).

A guy cannot get a girl through techniques eg push/pull, tease etc if she isn’t already attracted to him. And if a girl is already attracted to you, you don’t need to do any of that (or much at all). You just need to be non needy and a bit playful.

The guys you see pulling girls left and right in clubs have never heard of sh1t tests. Neither have frat bros, attractive musicians, athletes etc. the dynamic is simple. Stand out and women will show subtle interest . Capitalise on the interest by starting a simple convo and asking them out. Don’t be needy. Escalate. That’s it.

using basic logic, if a girl likes a man, why tf would she act hot and cold or testy knowing the man will also be interacting with OTHER more feminine and more attractive women! She is just hurting her chances of getting the alpha. She assumes the man is used to receiving high level treatment from previous girlfriends etc and would want to out compete them and show herself to be the most memorable girl

 

[SmoothSmooth]

also guys that think women are extremely socially calibrated and Machiavellian by default are just whipped by their beauty. Wait till you see some of the same girls from your college years at 30 years old - single, posting cat face filtered pictures on instagram, overweight with a very small social circle, stalking guys from 15 years ago on social media - so much for socially calibrated!

 

[itouchyou]

Women are not insanely socially calibrated or Machiavellian. If you think they are, you have no idea what you’re talking about. This idea of sh1t tests was created by socially awkward men that may have Asperger’s etc to make women and seduction seem like a complex battle.

In reality It’s men that are extremely Machiavellian, that make the best spy’s, run organised crime gangs etc and are way more able to climb dominance hierarchies using cunning and deception. Women are much less able to hold frame and see beyond their immediate needs and emotions.

Guys with low social skills/autism etc get into relationships with exploitative sociopathic/narcissistic women and call their behaviour ‘sh1t tests’. They are in relationships where the woman has all the power and ‘rewards’ them for passing tests. They know nothing of normal male-female dynamics based on attraction.

Wrong on so many levels. When's the last time you met a socially awkward woman?

You talk about men being more Machiavellian, yet you're talking about the best of the best. Majority of men are blue pill suckers who don't have an ounce of it in them, and can't read body language.

You've been watching too much TV and seem to think people like Thomas Shelby constitute most men. That is far from reality.

Just lol at talking about men being spies using cunning and deception as an example of Machiavellianism, what are you, 12?

 

[SmoothSmooth]

Wrong on so many levels. When's the last time you met a socially awkward woman?

You talk about men being more Machiavellian, yet you're talking about the best of the best. Majority of men are blue pill suckers who don't have an ounce of it in them, and can't read body language.

You've been watching too much TV and seem to think people like Thomas Shelby constitute most men. That is far from reality.

Just lol at talking about men being spies using cunning and deception as an example of Machiavellianism, what are you, 12?

Women are socially awkward all the time. Maybe not in your rose tinted eyes. The reason you think men are more socially awkward is because men get SHAMED by society and women for any behaviour that is slightly out of the norm where as women don’t. ask any club promoter - who gets banned and kicked out of clubs more - women. if you’re a chad or high value man or celeb you’ll see women act weird and socially awkward all the time, eg do the craziest things for some clout, throwing up in public places, say things which make no sense, lie about their life and what they do, post fake pictures on instagram, some models will even fake entire holidays on instagram etc etc

have you never had a girlfriend?

 

[itouchyou]

Women are socially awkward all the time. Maybe not in your rose tinted eyes. The reason you think men are more socially awkward is because men get SHAMED by society and women for any behaviour that is slightly out of the norm where as women don’t. ask any club promoter - who gets banned and kicked out of clubs more - women. if you’re a chad or high value man or celeb you’ll see women act weird and socially awkward all the time, eg do the craziest things for some clout, throwing up in public places, say things which make no sense, lie about their life and what they do, post fake pictures on instagram, some models will even fake entire holidays on instagram etc etc

have you never had a girlfriend?

We are talking about a man and woman speaking to one another, sober. Not mentally ill women doing crazy things in public or drunk women unable to handle their liquor. The lying you speak of is textbook Machiavellianism. Do you even know what Machiavellianism is?

Oh didn't realize you were OP. Makes sense, a 6'2" most likely white Chad that thinks game is fake. Just lmao.

"Just be confident bro." "Just walk up to her and say hi." "No such thing as game bro".

Lmaoo

 

[Dr.Suave]

Tests do no exist when she has high interest and she´s not bitter/jaded.

 

[Bigpapa]

very nice! You're an alpha male super chad. Lucky to have you on the forum!

But yeah, I think '**** tests' are a bit over-rated too, although i guess it also depends on context.
In terms of cold approaching a hot young girl at a bar, a lot of people are like ''She was $hit testing me by ignoring me and not talking back and I guess I didn't pass the tests'' but in reality, he just wasn't her type. It wasn't a 'test'. It was a way for her to get him to leave her alone lol

What we can sh1t tests, in reality is just female game

The important thing is to calibrate between showing interest and being a simp

sh1t tests are used to gauge how bold you are or how interested you are

like for example, her saying that she does not like you but smiling when saying this. This is a sh1t test in most cases