Height and Dating: A Message to Men Under 5'8"

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It was actually kinda funny because they seemingly did the reverse, put their height down an inch or two.

They claimed to be 5'8" which would have meant we would be the same height but they were clearly taller and both were wearing flat shoes, not heels.
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For the most part, simply being taller than her is enough. Women have very poor concepts of what various heights are. Obviously if you are 5'5" and put that you are 6'0", it's going to be a non starter but you can easily add 2-3" to your height most times and very very rarely will they notice. I am 5'8" and always put 5'10" on my profiles and out of 150 dates maybe 1 or 2 said anything about it.
Women lie about their height too on OLD btw. In sports this is VERY common as well. Especially the NHL. The NHL guys 6 feet and under they generally add 2-3 inches to a players height and some weight too. Brad Marchand is listed as 5-9 but people who meet him say he's at the very max 5-6. Martin St. Louis even talked about this how they added a couple inches to his height. If you're 5-8 you should be listing yourself as 5-11. Celebs also do this.
 

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Women lie about their height too on OLD btw. In sports this is VERY common as well. Especially the NHL. The NHL guys 6 feet and under they generally add 2-3 inches to a players height and some weight too. Brad Marchand is listed as 5-9 but people who meet him say he's at the very max 5-6. Martin St. Louis even talked about this how they added a couple inches to his height. If you're 5-8 you should be listing yourself as 5-11. Celebs also do this.
Yes, but in most instances they lie the opposite direction...a 5'10" woman will put 5'8" on her profile.
 

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Yes, but in most instances they lie the opposite direction...a 5'10" woman will put 5'8" on her profile.
Hmm. Anyway, in a lot of cases the shorter women are more picky about height. I'm barelt 5 foot 9 and most my old dates women about 5-8
 

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Height is only important until it isn't.

It is pretty obvious that height is part of the "looks" requirement department and that subconsciously height is associated with better genes. Genetics is an important factor when it comes to mating, but not so much in modern dating. Any girl that just wants to have fun will override this "requirement" with the right male.

We have spoken about this over and over: Rules are only for simps and incels. Period.
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

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We have spoken about this over and over: Rules are only for simps and incels. Period.
Women make rules for betas and break rules for alphas. However, few women would consider a guy 5'8" or under alpha. Women, especially White women, express a strong preference for men 6'0"+. My 5'10" height seems very neutral to women.
 

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Even now, studies1 show that a man’s height is correlated to his average salary and position at work; the taller the man (to a point) the higher his salary and/or position is likely to be.
I don't disagree, but that view is on a micro level, what would happen in one instance. On the macro level, shorter men make more money over their lifetimes than taller men. It probably has to do with simply putting more effort into money and career.
 

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Height is important more so when she is younger.
Right on.

When a woman is younger, hotter and fertile, she wants the height, at least 6’0 or more or there is no chance. When she is older and uglier, and close to menopause, she can sacrifice some height for security and access to resources. Even then, it’s iffy,

Get tall or ruin your life.
 

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Right on.

When a woman is younger, hotter and fertile, she wants the height, at least 6’0 or more or there is no chance. When she is older and uglier, and close to menopause, she can sacrifice some height for security and access to resources. Even then, it’s iffy,

Get tall or ruin your life.
 

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height wasn't a big deal 10-15 years ago

I barely remember it being a thing back in my early 20's

Nobody really wanted a partner shorter (male) or taller (female) than them but it wasn't anywhere near the big deal it is now

Dating apps, social media and reality tv came along and basically brought in that 6ft minimum requirement over night

its become a little bit of an obsession within the dating pools

The problem is the average male height is about 5' 7 - 5-8

Over 6ft is in a far lower percentile meaning there quite simply isn't enough 6ft plus men on earth too meet the demand

Then of course not every man over 6ft is highly desirable in other areas , he may be over weight , in an ethnic minority , weird , already in a relationship , broke

Basically what I am getting at is vast majority of women state this height requirement as if its an absolute cert they will achieve a partner with it when in reality the chances of them actually getting a 6ft+ guy they vibe with and are attracted too are probably 1:100 If not more
 

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Just last night I saw the height thing at play. Had went out to eat with my mother. Just as we were leaving the restaurant this really tall black guy was walking in the door. He had to have been 6’5 at least. She stopped and said to him “Wow, you are tall, i love it. Do you play basketball?” He said “well yes i do ma’am” . Super super nice guy. Mom is 77 and have the early stages of dementia. Lesson learned: women always love height, even the older “forgetful” ones! :rofl:
 

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Just last night I saw the height thing at play. Had went out to eat with my mother. Just as we were leaving the restaurant this really tall black guy was walking in the door. He had to have been 6’5 at least. She stopped and said to him “Wow, you are tall, i love it. Do you play basketball?” He said “well yes i do ma’am” . Super super nice guy. Mom is 77 and have the early stages of dementia. Lesson learned: women always love height, even the older “forgetful” ones! :rofl:
haha , he’s black, he’s tall, he must play basketball.

I think if I were him, I would say. No ma’am, believe it or not, I’m a country singer.
 

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There is a large emphasis and advantage derived from height in today’s dating pool. Every girl seems to have a specific height preference. But why? Why is height so important and does it mean, as a man, you can’t date someone taller than you?


The reason why height seems to be so important in dating is based in genetics, with some influence from evolving social norms. In its basic form, women wanting a taller male partner is rooted in the basic need to feel protected and secure. This was ingrained in us from thousands of years of our shared hunter-gatherer culture. Back when a woman felt safest and had the most food security by partnering with the best hunter, who was typically the biggest. Over thousands of years of social evolution and the decline of hunting and gathering as a way of life, height has somehow maintained its symbolism of personal security and evolved into social power. Even now, studies1 show that a man’s height is correlated to his average salary and position at work; the taller the man (to a point) the higher his salary and/or position is likely to be. Naturally this plays into the attractiveness of someone on the surface, as the ability to provide and protect (both of which can be derived from money) are huge factors in a person’s selection in a mate, whether it is a conscious consideration or not.

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If one’s face is top notch. Height (or lack of it) is really a very minimal factor. However. There certainly is a point where (say…5’3”?) where lack of height becomes dramatic. There are way more tall men than there are handsome men.
 

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If one’s face is top notch. Height (or lack of it) is really a very minimal factor. However. There certainly is a point where (say…5’3”?) where lack of height becomes dramatic. There are way more tall men than there are handsome men.
Being too tall too. Like Zedno Chara was called goofy looking and clumsy when he first came to the NHL. If you're like 6-8 and skinny and such you look goofy. I think 6-2 is the sweet spot.
 

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height wasn't a big deal 10-15 years ago
I would say it’s been going on since the dawn of time. It’s in a woman’s DNA to want a man 6’0 or taller.

In the mid 90s I was 17 and working at a gas station during the summer, They they hired this hot chick 2 months in. Every guy who worked there asked her out and she said no. Then one Saturday night I was working with her and my acquittance from my high school came. Nice guy, he was 17 and probably 6’4 at the time. After he left I mentioned he is single and looking for a girlfriend and the girl flipped out; “really? What his number? I’ll go out with him right now.“ I said “you don’t even know his name” She said “it doesn’t matter, he is tall, that is good enough for me.”

Get tall men. If you don’t get tall it will hurt you when you older.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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I would say it’s been going on since the dawn of time. It’s in a woman’s DNA to want a man 6’0 or taller.

In the mid 90s I was 17 and working at a gas station during the summer, They they hired this hot chick 2 months in. Every guy who worked there asked her out and she said no. Then one Saturday night I was working with her and my acquittance from my high school came. Nice guy, he was 17 and probably 6’4 at the time. After he left I mentioned he is single and looking for a girlfriend and the girl flipped out; “really? What his number? I’ll go out with him right now.“ I said “you don’t even know his name” She said “it doesn’t matter, he is tall, that is good enough for me.”

Get tall men. If you don’t get tall it will hurt you when you older.
Any tips for getting tall?
 

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Any tips for getting tall?
That I don’t know.

I just know women love tall men and a man has to get tall, at least 6’0, for him to be successful with women,
 

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Damn these replies...as per these guys short dudes should just commit Seppuko, except it wouldn't be Seppuko because it would be dishonorable and disrespectful, so just another lousy suicide. Tall or medium height folks won't understand your woes, shorties.

You short dudes, you ever tried for a soccer team and wasn't picked because "You're short?" . Perhaps you gave up on playing soccer then. What you should have done instead is practice, practice, practice and show up to the coach demanding another shot, when the coach saw how you smoked other guys on the team, guess what would've happened, you'd be playing soccer on the team. Who knows you could've become a star player. You sure don't , because you gave up.

You've spent who life feeling discriminated. Channel it into something positive. Don't turn the pain into bitterness, turn it into strength.

Dating/Don Juaning is like all masculine things bodybuilding/sports/martial arts..there will be *******s who wanna tell you, you can't do it because you don't have a few inches of bone length extra ,even if they suck themselves.

To the short dudez, take control of your destiny, do what you can, where you are , with what you have ---> Max out all of your other stats and "Embrace the Complex".

(Yeah i'm talking about embracing the Napoleon Complex).
 
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I would say it’s been going on since the dawn of time. It’s in a woman’s DNA to want a man 6’0 or taller.

In the mid 90s I was 17 and working at a gas station during the summer, They they hired this hot chick 2 months in. Every guy who worked there asked her out and she said no. Then one Saturday night I was working with her and my acquittance from my high school came. Nice guy, he was 17 and probably 6’4 at the time. After he left I mentioned he is single and looking for a girlfriend and the girl flipped out; “really? What his number? I’ll go out with him right now.“ I said “you don’t even know his name” She said “it doesn’t matter, he is tall, that is good enough for me.”

Get tall men. If you don’t get tall it will hurt you when you older.
Being tall is like being big boobed. It will get you the attention but unless the person is super shallow , you won't keep the attention.
 

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