Is it more difficult to get laid during the summer, or is it just me?

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While your overall conclusion is correct that @BPH needs to move to a larger area, your categorization of Wilmington, DE as a bum town is incorrect. Wilmington, DE alone has slightly over 70,000 people. However, Wilmington is a part of New Castle County in Delaware. New Castle County is a small area with over 450,000 people. In theory, New Castle County would be a large enough dating pool. In practice, that 450,000 population within a quite short distance isn't as good as it sounds.

The biggest problem with Wilmington/New Castle County is that it sits in the shadow of Philadelphia. Downtown Wilmington to Downtown Philadelphia is only 32 miles. There's a valid argument that Wilmington/New Castle County is simply a large bedroom community type area for Philadelphia. Philadelphia is a metro area of 6.2 million+ (including the 450,000 in New Castle County in Delaware) and the boundaries of that metro are defined in the picture/article below.


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In the Greater Philadelphia area, more of the action for singles is located closer to Downtown Philadelphia. @BPH needs to get a place with roommates closer to Philadelphia rather than live with his parents in Wilmington.

If @BPH were to live in Philadelphia, he could probably take advantage of his social circle connections from attending high school and college in Delaware. He could move to Philadelphia with a ready made social circle. The easiest way to get a girlfriend with the least amount of grief and frustration is through a social circle. He has his best chance of having a social circle in Philadelphia.

If @BPH were to move to Phoenix, Miami-Fort Lauderdale, Tampa, or Orlando as he's considered, he is just another anonymous penis in an ocean of anonymous penises in those markets. He has no social circle advantage in any of those cities, but he would be helped by the fact he is 6'0" and fit.

@BPH is an attraction-seduction success story. He's put up a notch count of 80+ living in a bedroom community and living in his parents' home after his 25th birthday. I would consider that an outlier of success when considering his lifetime stats.
I always love your analyses because you have stuff like the demographics and seasonal stuff down to a science.

Thankfully I do have a friend that recently moved near Philly, but he's been dragging his feet about going out after the move and wants to hang out with old college buddies rather than checking out the nightlife.

Once that happens I'll give that a look and see if things turn out better.

Where I'm at right now the college bars are understandably dead. Trolley Square is the next best thing and I checked that out last weekend to find maybe two hot girls who were both their with their boyfriends and a group of that guy's friends. There are some small storefront bars really close to my house I'll probably end up checking out, but they probably won't surprise me. Outside of that there's West Chester, which is also on summer break, and down south in northern Maryland there's Chesapeake Inn which is really only a good spot if it's warm enough at the night time with good weather.

In mid-July I'll be in Ocean City, Maryland for a week, and I'll probably make up for lost time there. But yeah usually Delaware is a bit of a bust during the summer unless I'm down south in Dewey. I actually watched a girl's Instagram story who's down there and the entire crowd is guys...

I was thinking of updating my journal once again. I'm at 90 now, and feel like I could maybe give some insight to the guys there, as long as it's not financial advice.

you were biased even before any answer came in. So what, this summer is already dead and gone ? So you go monk mode untill you moved to visit a bigger city? Instead of finding a way to make it work where you at?

It's just a way to hide behind whatever reason or excuse you're having to NOT make it work. No knock on you OP. Just saying you can't role over and die this easily. Put up a damn fight at least.
Not biased, but I do recognize that I need to get the hell out of my parent's house, and Delaware by extension. Arizona and Florida were just two places I was considering, so due to the fact that it's boring as anything here, might be worth me paying those places a visit sooner rather than later.

I'm not writing off the summer, I just know what it is. I have 2 FWBs I can rotate with if I want to break a dry spell, but outside of that I'll probably only bed a few new girls, most likely while on vacation in Ocean City, simply because all the hot young chicks graduated and went home. So it will probably be like that until the new school year comes around.
 

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How is that related? I'm never Mr. Relationship.
If you move to Arizona this phenomenon is in effect. Girls are hornier in the summer here, there's more relationship pressure in the winter and you have to hint you're open to what they want.
 

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Most people have an easier time getting laid in summer than in winter.

This article below is a good look at how seasonality often affects dating. November 15-January 1 is the biggest dead zone for starting new interactions.


Spring is usually a good time to start new relationships.

There are often motivated singles coming off crappy holiday seasons in January and February.
Can you remind me who wrote this? As far as why they'd be credible?
 

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It's Caleb Jones of Alpha Male 2.0 (aka Blackdragon.


He's been a Manosphere voice since the 2000s. He's had some good ideas but he is far from perfect. PUA Nick Krauser wrote a hit piece on him in 2019....

BlackDragon is a pathetic delusional cuck | Krauser PUA
He's good at using pattern recognition for screening, that was his primary contribution. Using spreadsheets and finding out where your best odds are (I don't use them personally but they've worked for some). Dressing up in a biz suit for your OLD profile, casting a wide net for young 20 somethings into older men, and playing up the Daddy angle is his other big idea.

Obviously his stuff isn't necessary for younger dudes but it's useful for older guys.
 

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He's good at using pattern recognition for screening, that was his primary contribution. Using spreadsheets and finding out where your best odds are (I don't use them personally but they've worked for some). Dressing up in a biz suit for your OLD profile, casting a wide net for young 20 somethings into older men, and playing up the Daddy angle is his other big idea.

Obviously his stuff isn't necessary for younger dudes but it's useful for older guys.
He's in his early 50s now but I think he got divorced around 35 and became a more prominent Manosphere voice with those contributions.

He has had a couple of good ideas (such as managing the calendar) but lost a degree of credibility when Krauser exposed him as a cuck.
 

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He's in his early 50s now but I think he got divorced around 35 and became a more prominent Manosphere voice with those contributions.

He has had a couple of good ideas (such as managing the calendar) but lost a degree of credibility when Krauser exposed him as a cuck.
*And* when he started making videos
 

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Maybe it's a result of my circumstances or the fact that I'm located in Delaware, but once the colleges all go on summer vacation the place becomes a ghost town...

Everybody local is in Dewey Beach for the summer and the few friends I have down there say it's really not that great because of how many dudes there are too. Also the weather's been crappy. This means the bars I frequent are super dry, with the only reasonable place to visit being Philly, which I don't do since I have nowhere to spend the night after that 40-minute drive that I will not be drunkenly making later that night.

The dating apps have also been bare, already running out of people to swipe on and I barely use the thing.

I imagine this is mostly because everybody goes home then either goes on vacation, looks for work, or is partying with their close friends in places like Miami, Tulum (by the way, why is every Instagram model always posting here?), or some other random spot.

Anyway, just wanted to see if others were having a similar experience or if I'm missing something.
How much do you pregame/drink before/when you go out bro?

Maybe worst case you could book a hotel room for a night in Philly.
 

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Maybe worst case you could book a hotel room for a night in Philly.
Can a guy who lives at home with his parents afford to be booking hotel rooms in Philadelphia?
 

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Can a guy who lives at home with his parents afford to be booking hotel rooms in Philadelphia?
Hmm, good point.

I agree with trying to mitigate the nighttime driving. It can be tough.

At the very least you should try to be 100% rested before imo.
 

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Can a guy who lives at home with his parents afford to be booking hotel rooms in Philadelphia?
You know I’m all about the side hustles haha. Maybe pick up a side hustle, and use the cash flow from that to book rooms in Philly until summer is over/you move out of your parents?
 

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I think it's the same but how it happens is likely to be different during different seasons.

Summer is likely more out and about with friends and meeting someone that way while at a party, the beach, etc...

Winter is more OLD centric since it's cold and people don't want to be out and about.
 

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"Can a guy who lives at home with his parents afford to be booking hotel rooms in Philadelphia?"

I mean what else is he spending money on? He is living on easy street, so yeah he should be able to.
 

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"Can a guy who lives at home with his parents afford to be booking hotel rooms in Philadelphia?"

I mean what else is he spending money on? He is living on easy street, so yeah he should be able to.
Hell yeah, you said exactly what I thought!

Like 1500 rent plus all the other grown man costs will give more room to book a expensive hotel...
 

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How much do you pregame/drink before/when you go out bro?

Maybe worst case you could book a hotel room for a night in Philly.
Well I have two answers to that; first, I have a high tolerance and usually, when my drink is empty I refill it, so I end up having quite a few.

Point two: it's not that I'm too drunk to drive, it's that I would not pass a breathalyzer if I were to get pulled over.

"Can a guy who lives at home with his parents afford to be booking hotel rooms in Philadelphia?"

I mean what else is he spending money on? He is living on easy street, so yeah he should be able to.
I do try to save as much as I can, that's part of the reason I don't go out to Philly. Even my friends kinda avoid it because of the cost. I remember when I was dating my ex they were charging guys $50 to get into Noto...and if I weren't dating my girl I wouldn't have been interested in any of the girls I saw there.

Plus I have done the hotel room thing before and even though I got laid I was still pissed about how much I spent just to have a place to smash this chick for a few hours.
 

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I have done the hotel room thing before and even though I got laid I was still pissed about how much I spent just to have a place to smash this chick for a few hours.
An adequate hotel room (think mid-priced major chain like Holiday Inn or Quality Inn) for one night is not too bad of a cost to smash a chick for a few hours.
 
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