I would say norm for women you wouldn't see going to frequenting bars and clubs or constantly on the apps. If you are day game approacher you are exposed more of these women and you either have an adapted style or you maybe you just filter them out and get the club rats you find
A good portion of women use swipe apps now but a lot still don't use them, despite the fact that tech-based dating has been de-stigmatized for 20 years and in existence for almost 30 years at this point. Match.com launched in 1995, which was 28 years ago. If more women used them, Tinder/Bumble/Hinge wouldn't be sausage fests.
A lot of nightlife venues are sausage fests at any given time as well.
Based on the fact that we've identified both swipe apps and nightlife venues as sausage fests, the rational conclusion is that it is less of a norm for women to be regulars in nightlife venues or swipe app users.
Non-bar approaching (commonly called day game) is a way to balance out the ratios and be exposed to more women. Venue selection is important in non-bar approaching. The best venues are typically located in neighborhoods of a metro area with a higher concentration of unmarried people. Even when a daygamer male selects better than average venues, it is far from a guarantee that will mean anything.
Most women are in some sort of relationship at any given time and are not open to new penis. Even with better ratios from non-bar approaching, the fact that a lot of potential prospects wouldn't be interested is a factor that somewhat negates the better ratios.
Many women not seeking new penis have a way of using body language to discourage approaches. This reduces the number of approaches that she will field. In general, a smaller subset of men do non-bar approaches. Non-bar approaches have always been a bit of a niche activity because it is rather difficult to start a conversation with an unknown woman while sober and create a romantic/sexual attraction.
A good example of good ratios not meaning a lot is fitness classes. Most fitness classes, regardless of where they are held or the format, are majority female. However, despite amazing ratios, it's quite difficult to get dates from attending fitness classes. A lot of women in fitness classes have either boyfriends or husbands and are not receptive to the idea of getting some new penis. There are also some unattractive women in classes or women who give off some bad body language, such as resting biatch face. It's not easy to find a somewhat attractive looking woman or better who is open to new penis in a fitness class.
The problem with social circles becomes sustainability over a longer period of time (5+ years). Social circles have a way of getting pissed off at men who continually exchange girlfriends without marriage or babies, even if the relationships are semi-long (1-4 years). After 2 or so instances of medium term relationships, the social circle will run dry. Social circle is not likely ideal for a serial monogamist who does have extended relationships but doesn't commit or the player type who tends to have relationships of less than 1 year.
Exactly this, even if you don't date around in the social circle, single men are seen as embarrassing or a threat.
This point needs some clarification and expansion.
Most social circles after age 30 are hostile to never married, unattached men. Yes, you're correct that these men are seen as embarrassing or a threat. If a social circle is comprised of people mainly age 30+, it is going to be a couples dominated social circle with a generally blue pilled ideology towards relationships.
This hostility is usually not overt. It is covert. It is putting unattached men in social situations where mostly everyone is a couple, which is uncomfortable for both the couples and single. Often times, due to this mutual discomfort, the never married single man is excluded from a lot of these gatherings. Married men are also notorious for reducing or outright dropping never married, childless men from their lives, either for one-on-one type get togethers. As time passes, and most of the couples have kids, the never married, childless man is pushed even further away from the social circle.
The thread below is a good reference point on what happens within social circles when social circles start having children....
Yesterday, I was on my Instagram and saw a pregnancy announcement from an acquaintance's wife in my social circle. I don't particularly like her. I find it annoying to be around her the 1-2 times a year I ever randomly see her in person. Right now, there are 3 women from my local area social...
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Divorced men are generally treated better by social circles because divorced men did follow the blue pill narrative of getting married at some point in life. There can be some variance on how some social circles treat divorced men, but many social circles are at least empathetic to divorced men, whereas they are more covertly hostile to never married men.
No woman is ever going to "adhere" to red pill (and especially not black pill). If you even mention it to them, you are likely to get labelled a misogynist or worse since mainstream society doesn't really understand it - it is just viewed as a bunch of guys who want to take advantage of women. You shouldn't ever even mention this kind of thing to women; it would be like showing a fish your pole and lure and explaining how it works to catch it. This goes regardless of whether you are talking to women in your social circle or outside of it.
In a social circle, the most that any man can get away with are slight hints of red pill praxeology. You cannot go into any real depth on any element of red pill praxeology. Saying anything that would be more than 1-2 sentences in "The Rational Male" would create negative feelings in social circles. Definitely don't mention red pill praxeology to women. Even Rollo Tomassi says this.
To your point about social circle, they are most definitely "long game" situations. You aren't going to be plating multiple women in a social circle. You can probably bang one woman and then you will be cut off. Could be different if you are serial monogamist as
@SW15 pointed out above - but I won't just repeat what he said.
Yes, this is true. Social circle is used for getting girlfriends. There are advantages to having LTRs.
Social circles won't mind a failed match if its something like 1-2 dates and no sex. Both sides would walk away from that with few to no hard feelings. Additionally, in a situation where a social circle introduction doesn't end up working, both sides will treat each other with dignity and respect. When an interaction fails in 1-2 dates without sex via swipe app or in-person approach, there is rarely dignity or respect involved. The only reason there is dignity and respect involved in a social circle interaction is because both sides fear the social circle repercussions of bad behavior being reported to the circle. When women ghost, flake, act rude, or misbehave towards men they meet from apps or in-person stranger approaches, the individual woman's social circle is never informed of her behavior. She has no social consequences for her bad behavior.
Social circles do not look kindly upon casual sex and plating type interactions. Don't even try.
Social circles will be somewhat empathetic and understanding if an extended relationship set up by the circle ends up failing without a marriage in something like 1-3 years, provided that it's a relationship that simply ran its natural course. A man can probably get away with this once and then get a 2nd social circle introduction. Beyond that, and he will be cut off from introductions by the circle.
Social circles are more fully empathetic when a social circle arranged pair ends up divorcing after something like 5+ years together. Results may vary in these situations.
Most men who get relationships from social circles are beta males. This happens by definition since most men are beta males in general. A social circle can make a huge difference for a beta male. A social circle can be the difference between a beta male having a semi active sex life or being an incel or borderline incel. When you hear about beta males struggling in the dating market, you're hearing about beta males struggling because they have either already exhausted their social circle options or they don't have a social circle for a variety of reasons, some of which are out of that beta's control. Past relocations weaken social circles so relocations are a common reason for a beta to lack a social circle and to be forced into either using apps, sending DMs, or doing approaches. Most betas will choose the apps or DMs. The men who approaches tend to be more alpha or sigma, but it is possible for betas to do in-person approaches.
