Why social circle game is a poor alternative to cold approach.

[Jesse Pinkman]

Social Circle is the ultimate form of Game. Because just cold-approaching is like ok now u have a girl where are you going to put her.

The reason for the downfall of relationships is related to general atomization is society which is related to lack of communities or 'social groups'.

I know some ppl dont like to hear about politics and stuff but this is how it is. Personally I am still working on building a movement which is meant to be based around developing social groups and social circles. Ofcourse for this to work out women cannot be hooking up with guys outside of the social group.

In general in society everything is breaking down due lack to positive social groups ie communities. This is also the reason for the breakdown of relationships in general. Casual sex for women was a new trend and those gen-x women now in their 40s and late 30s first started this trend in their 20s. But now women engaging in casual sex will further decrease as the trend has run its course.

Pretty soon I expect all cold-approachers to have access to a social circle otherwise women will see them as losers or low-value. Why would any woman want to sleep with some random guy who approached her on the streets and he dont even have access to any social circles or groups for validation.

In the fiuture social circles will determine to a large extent a guys 'success' with females. All that is required is development of the movement and the social groups/communities. That is not easy.

I will entertain this debate. I think cold approach on its own is useless if guys do not leverage to do more than that. Most PUAs doing cold approach just suck at it or they spam girls with the same lines. Those guys are inherently screwed in the long run. However, cold approach itself is a rare skill to possess when done right. It just gives you an unfair advantage to bring girls in who otherwise would not have known you.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I wanted to bump this thread instead of posting a new one but I might even post a new one. I really need to update my field reports section too. I think that "social circle game" makes men into conforming spineless beta males that desperately try to fit in. The beauty of cold approach is that it allows you to embrace not fitting in with mainstream society and still getting decent looking women. This is why many men do not get good at it. However, cold approach is a holy grail and I stand by it.

I did social circle game for months and I realized that in most cases, it turns men into spineless betas trying to fit in and not piss others off. Every aspect of social circle game makes you into a people pleasing beta male.

 

[SW15]

I think that "social circle game" makes men into conforming spineless beta males that desperately try to fit in.

I did social circle game for months and I realized that in most cases, it turns men into spineless betas trying to fit in and not piss others off. Every aspect of social circle game makes you into a people pleasing beta male.

I agree with this. The men who tend to form their long term relationships from social circle game tend to be beta males. This is because most social circles have a blue pill ideology towards romantic relationships.

Social circles tend to get pissed off at men who break the mold and challenge mainstream conventions about romantic relationships. If a man doesn't get monogamously married and have children with his social circle introduced girlfriend after some time, it doesn't look good. There's social circle pressure to conform.

The beauty of cold approach is that it allows you to embrace not fitting in with mainstream society and still getting decent looking women. This is why many men do not get good at it. However, cold approach is a holy grail and I stand by it.

While social circle game is easier for getting one girlfriend, learning to approach strangers is more sustainable to game over a 5-10 year period. Social circles get pissed at men whose relationships fail with girlfriends without marriage or babies. Eliminating social circle game eliminates the social circle pressure to conform. While approaching strangers is a more difficult lifestyle for arranging dates and forming relationships, it does allow for a more freedom-oriented lifestyle.

 

[kavi]

I agree with this. The men who tend to form their long term relationships from social circle game tend to be beta males. This is because most social circles have a blue pill ideology towards romantic relationships.

Social circles tend to get pissed off at men who break the mold and challenge mainstream conventions about romantic relationships. If a man doesn't get monogamously married and have children with his social circle introduced girlfriend after some time, it doesn't look good. There's social circle pressure to conform.



While social circle game is easier for getting one girlfriend, learning to approach strangers is more sustainable to game over a 5-10 year period. Social circles get pissed at men whose relationships fail with girlfriends without marriage or babies. Eliminating social circle game eliminates the social circle pressure to conform. While approaching strangers is a more difficult lifestyle for arranging dates and forming relationships, it does allow for a more freedom-oriented lifestyle.

Many women lack good social circles these days. What men have to do to overcome the above issues is simply to build their own social circles and invite women. Get a group of guys, invest some money get a venue throw a party invite some girls. Make sure the vibe is cool and let all the men and women know what the rules of interaction are. Have good men and women in the group and a good vibe then the social group will thrive and grow.

Alpha males also dont go around pursuing women on the streets and Alpha males especially dont give women a lot of one-to-one time without the woman earning it. The whole cold-approach will put guys into beta category whether they understand it or not, most truly high-value guys like celebs, actors, athletes etc are not cold-approaching or taking women out on 1-2-1 dates rather they just get women from social circles even pop stars and actors pickup women at parties to 'have fun' with.

If social circles dont work for a guy its just because he is too beta to rise up above the rest of the group. An Alpha male like an actor or celeb wont have the problems posted above.

 

[SW15]

Many women lack good social circles these days.

Women are typically more social than men. Women typically have female friends. The typical heterosexual woman has friends in a similar stage of life to where she is. If the woman is single, her social circle is likely to be single. The typical married woman has married woman friends. The typical married woman with children has married woman with children friends.

Alpha males also dont go around pursuing women on the streets and Alpha males especially dont give women a lot of one-to-one time without the woman earning it. The whole cold-approach will put guys into beta category whether they understand it or not, most truly high-value guys like celebs, actors, athletes etc are not cold-approaching or taking women out on 1-2-1 dates rather they just get women from social circles even pop stars and actors pickup women at parties to 'have fun' with.

Some men might have friends but not have friends capable of introducing them to single people in their social networks. This might happen because the man has relocated at some point or has had multiple relocations in his life.

These are men who are either reliant upon approaching strangers, sending DMs on social media, or swipe apps.

The more courageous men (alpha or sigma) are more likely to be approaching strangers. Men who approach strangers in non-bar settings are the most courageous. Approaching strangers in a nightlife venue while drinking alcohol with lowered inhibitions is neither an alpha or beta move alone. Beta males are more likely to approach in-person with alcohol in their systems. Approaching women in non-bar venues when sober is difficult to do, even for men with good lifestyle habits (no porn, no masturbation, regularly exercise).

The difference now as compared to 20-30 years ago is that the typical beta male does less in-person approaching now than his beta equivalents of 20-30 years ago. Beta males of the last 10-20 years have been more reliant upon tech-based date arranging methods.