How can you possibly be an alpha and social at the same time?

[SargeMaximus]

This is seriously hitting my brain hard today. There’s always a higher up. Always. Even if you are the highest male in your city, there’s another city, another country, etc. is it just accepting where you are in the pecking order? How can that be alpha because you’d have to accept your a beta to a bunch of other dudes. I don’t get it

 

[RazorRambo24]

This is one of the strangest ideas to begin with. I'm not sure if I even understand. It is exactly the opposite of being alpha to think about or believe that there are men "higher up" then you. Alphas dont compare themselves to anyone because they are usually self assured and confident in themselves. The alpha male can be the shortest dude in the room and still believe he's the most badass. The #1 characteristic of being alpha is CONFIDENCE.

What you're depicting is how sissies think.

 

[Stanley]

Introspection is good, but this is a self defeating mindset.

Do away with 'alpha' and 'beta' and just be the best version of yourself you can be. To be truly 'alpha' is to not care about the term to begin with. Be yourself BUT be the best actualized version of yourself Sarge. Care less about others opinions. Care less about any presupposed pecking order. Give less of a s*** brother

 

[RazorRambo24]

Introspection is good, but this is a self defeating mindset.

Do away with 'alpha' and 'beta' and just be the best version of yourself you can be. To be truly 'alpha' is to not care about the term to begin with. Be yourself BUT be the best actualized version of yourself Sarge. Care less about others opinions. Care less about any presupposed pecking order. Give less of a s*** brother

No offense to Sarge but dudes like this are who they are. We can't tell them to be anything else. I mentioned it before. Theres nothing wrong with being a beta male. Not every dude is aggressive, not every dude wants to compete physically at everything , not every dude is a high achiever.. some are fine with settling for what they have and being appreciative.

The terms alpha and beta while just being basic ideas, are quite loose terms -- because you can have someone who has alot of confident/masculine characteristics, and maybe still be insecure about certain things. Does it make him beta? No --

And a beta male can be quite sensitive in some ways, but be really good at talking to women - does it make him Alpha? No.

Beta males can get more poonani than some alpha males -- This is a fact. Sometimes all it takes is being easy going and good looking/pretty boyish.. which makes a guy more approachable, easier to deal with and open up to , and less likely a threat in the terms of emotional damage for a woman like some testosterone fueled alpha male character.

Thers guys like Peditro (whos now banned) who right off bat I could tell he was beta male.. but he would try to act alpha half the time.. he was basically trying to be something he was not.. and got exposed for it in a thread he made excited because he thought a girl who was "crying for him" meant she loved him so much, but in that same thread revealed he was being played by her.. (the whole hickey thing and her trying to tell him he's the one who gave it to her before backpeddling and saying it was a bruise--then crying when she thought she was basically caught up aka crocodile tears-- jus because he was being silent and resentful for a bit). Little did she know she coulda sitll played him cuz had he not posted that thread, he woulda had no idea and woulda believed her stupid excuses cuz he was silly enoguh to think her crying meant she loved him so much lmao.

Moral of the story: Going to the gym and tribal tattoos don't make you alpha. Homie cuffed a single mom, played daddy day care with her kids, paid for her vacation and made a cutesy collage style video of their moments together like a true beta to post here with such excitement as if this was loveydoveymushyforum.com all to one day reveal he was bein cucked by the girl he thought he loved after a month or two.

 

[SargeMaximus]

This is one of the strangest ideas to begin with. I'm not sure if I even understand. It is exactly the opposite of being alpha to think about or believe that there are men "higher up" then you. Alphas dont compare themselves to anyone because they are usually self assured and confident in themselves. The alpha male can be the shortest dude in the room and still believe he's the most badass. The #1 characteristic of being alpha is CONFIDENCE.

What you're depicting is how sissies think.

I call it being real. You’re talking about delusion and insanity

 

[RazorRambo24]

I call it being real. You’re talking about delusion and insanity

I don't think anyone who reads your post will think this is called "being real". Its just a weird way of thinking. Do you like live life comparing yourself to everyone? The irony is in you calling what I'm saying delusion ....when you're acting like we live in some weird caste system..

You already admitted on the forum you're thinking and lifestyle isn't working well for you. So I don't know what to tell ya.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I don't think anyone who reads your post will think this is called "being real". Its just a weird way of thinking. Do you like live life comparing yourself to everyone? The irony is in you calling what I'm saying delusion ....when you're acting like we live in some weird caste system..

You already admitted on the forum you're thinking and lifestyle isn't working well for you. So I don't know what to tell ya.

You think humans don’t live in a hierarchy? Ok pal. I got nothing more to say as well.

OP, Alpha an Beta are containers words, Alpha are behaviors that make a woman wet, Beta are behaviors that make her comfortable. The issue is resorting to Beta behaviors when she doesn't see you as fvck material.

For example a guy posting about how many 9s he has for years with no commitment, they all do things for him, how much of a playa he is, how he insults other members when they disagree with him, how he wants everyone to validate him for being a playa, that just reeks of insecurity and desperation to feel admired, wanting validation from other people that's beta behavior.

totally agree. Lots of those on here. I have no problem admitting my faults, and saying I only get 5-6’a on average. What’s your point?

 

[RazorRambo24]

You think humans don’t live in a hierarchy? Ok pal. I got nothing more to say as well.

totally agree. Lots of those on here. I have no problem admitting my faults, and saying I only get 5-6’a on average. What’s your point?

There's no "alpha male" hiearchy man. We don't live in a head hunting Tribe in Papua New Guinea. You see why I said it was irony that you called my thinking delusion?

I know you will vehemently defend your stance but , you already admitted your own thinking is not serving you well so I can't help ya any further. To each their own.

I did make an impression in you huh?

Nah man you were actually my funniest/most entertaining moments on this forum. Thanks for showing us your new account though. I never said I didnt like you by the way. I just wish you would accept who you are. Glad to know that you're still around Pedrito. May your new identity serve you well.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Alpha and Beta are terms that the manosphere used to market their product. In reality, they mean completely different things than what the pill communities shove down their throats. These terms revolve around Social Cohesion, something the pill communities and manosphere lack entirely from within and society.

Alphas- are leaders of the betas, deltas, and sigmas. They have to be liked by generally everyone to lead, so it’s technically impossible to be some RP God and call yourself alpha because the majority of the world dislikes the Red Pill.

Betas- These are alpha males in training or Alpha male juniors on the rise. Completely different than the definition the Red Pill feeds us.

Deltas- Fits more of the example of what the RP refers to as a beta male. These are the NPCs of the world that just give flow/life to our environment and help maintain law and order.

Sigmas- This is more of the alpha male that the RP describes. The biggest difference is that a Sigma male can take the position of an alpha male, but generally doesn’t desire so. In essence, a Sigma male needs to be generally liked by the population as well.

Omegas- This is where your pill communities fall in to. Omegas are seen as outcasts from the main groups because of xyz reasons.

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

Only Alpha/beta delineations that matter to me are how men are perceived by women. Consciously or subconsciously, women place men anywhere on the beta/alpha spectrum. If you want success with women, you try and max your alpha qualities. If you want to keep a women, you show some beta tendencies. Focus on that rather than comparing yourself to other men.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Wrong. You're thinking about gorillas or wolves. Humans are beyond that. Most men in position of leadership like managers and directors, are complete puzzies when it comes to women.

The same leader you see in your job is the sane puzzy when it comes to his wife. To you he might be an alpha due to his position in leadership, but in reality, he's just another vagina beggar with a title before his name. I know, I see them everyday.

Dude 99% of the RP community are vagina beggars

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

Dude 99% of the RP community are vagina beggars

True RP mindset doesn't beg. Vagina is more likely served on a platter if one is truly red pilled.

 

[SargeMaximus]

True RP mindset doesn't beg. Vagina is more likely served on a platter if one is truly red pilled.

Not ime. Women can sense if you are red pulled and they can’t manipulate you

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

Not ime. Women can sense if you are red pulled and they can’t manipulate you

I don't disagree. handing their p***y to you on a silver platter is not manipulation.

 

[kavi]

Wrong. You're thinking about gorillas or wolves. Humans are beyond that. Most men in position of leadership like managers and directors, are complete puzzies when it comes to women.

The same leader you see in your job is the sane puzzy when it comes to his wife. To you he might be an alpha due to his position in leadership, but in reality, he's just another vagina beggar with a title before his name. I know, I see them everyday.

An Alpha male is a leader of a TRIBE or COMMUNITY and therefore has high social skills. A manager, ceo, any of those guys is unlikey to be Alpha or have real Alpha qualtiies because Capitalism or the general modern work culture is different to a community, tribal or social culture.

So an Alpha Male can be leader of community, tribe, cult etc but business and INSTITUTIONS cannot produce Alpha Males. Hence Communities/Tribes/Cults are all wholistic and do not have separate entities within them like banks, academia etc the latter are insitutitions but the former are human social groups and Alphas only emerge in the latter not the former because the former plays by different rules. Alpha males do well as social leaders but not in INSTITUTIONS.

 

[The Duke]

Not ime. Women can sense if you are red pulled and they can’t manipulate you

It won't stop them from trying.

 

[SargeMaximus]

It won't stop them from trying.

That’s true and it can work to your advantage if she uses her body and sex. I had a fwb like that. Lots of fun for me as she tried to manipulate me over time

 

[CornbreadFed]

An Alpha male is a leader of a TRIBE or COMMUNITY and therefore has high social skills. A manager, ceo, any of those guys is unlikey to be Alpha or have real Alpha qualtiies because Capitalism or the general modern work culture is different to a community, tribal or social culture.

So an Alpha Male can be leader of community, tribe, cult etc but business and INSTITUTIONS cannot produce Alpha Males. Hence Communities/Tribes/Cults are all wholistic and do not have separate entities within them like banks, academia etc the latter are insitutitions but the former are human social groups and Alphas only emerge in the latter not the former because the former plays by different rules. Alpha males do well as social leaders but not in INSTITUTIONS.

If the tribe/community doesn’t collectively like you then you are just a stubborn omega male not an alpha male.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

This is seriously hitting my brain hard today. There’s always a higher up. Always. Even if you are the highest male in your city, there’s another city, another country, etc. is it just accepting where you are in the pecking order? How can that be alpha because you’d have to accept your a beta to a bunch of other dudes. I don’t get it

Because nobody thinks like this in the real world. Only you. This has virtually no relevancy and the problem is you keep talking about being Alpha, which is most times irrelevant. You either are or you aren't, it isn't something you become.

People others would say are Alpha spend exactly zero amount of time thinking about any of this stuff.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Because nobody thinks like this in the real world. Only you. This has virtually no relevancy and the problem is you keep talking about being Alpha, which is most times irrelevant. You either are or you aren't, it isn't something you become.

People others would say are Alpha spend exactly zero amount of time thinking about any of this stuff.

So shame me for thinking about it? Cool bro