Paying for bedroom fun, is the only option for physically unattractive men?

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There are plenty of normie tier guys paying directly for sex too.
I guess normie-tiers are more the MTGOW types that can't be bothered chasing women, while the sub-5s would be more of the incel types that are escortcelling. With the dating market as terrible as it is, even normie-tier guys can feel like how sub-5s felt like a decade ago. This is a case of a lowering tide exposing more boats down to the hull.
 

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I’ve gotten the impression that even hookers don’t want unattractive men. An incel buddy & I went to a strip club a couple of years ago. We were sitting together at a booth. One of the girls came by, chatted me up a bit & offereed ‘for a hundred dollars, you can take me into the back and do whatever you want with me.’. I declined. She didn’t bother asking my friend, in fact, she treated him like he didn’t exist.
Well if a hooker doesn’t want unattractive clients, then don’t work in the sex industry. Good looking men, ie.Chads and Tyrone’s rarely see hookers, because a) They don’t need to as they get it for free from civilian women, and b) They think that paying for it is beneath them.

In the 35 years, I have been seeing hookers none of them have refused me service, and I’m pretty hideous, and pretty much all of the mature age hookers I see, give me a very passionate service.
 

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Oke,lately you seem to be on fire bro.

I agree. Hooker sex can and should be like getting fast food. You still need some "healthy food" in other to stay healthy. If you are a hyper sexual person, a hokker here and there can be exiting.


Yes.A hooker = a woman. A woman will always judge you. If she doesn't like you, she will/might be professional enough to hide her discomfort to some degree. But even finding the right type.of hooker can be quite the task.

When we used to visit brothels we would dress up like we were giong to a IG model ls only festival; fresh clothes ,well groomed and smelling good. The better you look, the better your experience will be; like with every other woman.
You have made some good points here, whenever I see a hooker, I make sure I’m showered (I shower at least once a day), cleanly shaven, spray on deodorant, have fresh breath and I wear nice French after shave (I use either YSL Body Kouros or Silver Scent Intense edition), and the hookers I see appreciate it, and they give me a very passionate service.
 

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Well if a hooker doesn’t want unattractive clients, then don’t work in the sex industry. Good looking men, ie.Chads and Tyrone’s rarely see hookers, because a) They don’t need to as they get it for free from civilian women, and b) They think that paying for it is beneath them.

In the 35 years, I have been seeing hookers none of them have refused me service, and I’m pretty hideous, and pretty much all of the mature age hookers I see, give me a very passionate service.
Some, if not a good number of them are known to discriminate against black people. Chads and Tyrones might also visit escorts too but they are not "escortcelling", and are either MTGOWs, or they like the impersonal, anonymous and thrilling nature of that compared to civie women who may not be as good as pleasing a man compared to a pro. In the Chad/Tyrone and civvie dynamic, it's the Chad/Tyrones who are pleasing the women rather than the woman pleasing them. Sometimes someone may have a very niche fantasy, like doing a facial or something else, and a civvie may not be into that, but a pro might just offer that.

That being said, back in 2014, when I visited an escort or two that year (no refused their offer for sex but was flattered they asked me for sex, or attempted to sex me, meaning I rejected their sexual advances and felt validated a woman offered sex and I refused it), I never felt rejected or like the escort did not like me and with my very limited exposure, have not been rejected by escorts. I felt rejected when I tried speed-dating afterwards though.
 

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Some, if not a good number of them are known to discriminate against black people. Chads and Tyrones might also visit escorts too but they are not "escortcelling", and are either MTGOWs, or they like the impersonal, anonymous and thrilling nature of that compared to civie women who may not be as good as pleasing a man compared to a pro. In the Chad/Tyrone and civvie dynamic, it's the Chad/Tyrones who are pleasing the women rather than the woman pleasing them. Sometimes someone may have a very niche fantasy, like doing a facial or something else, and a civvie may not be into that, but a pro might just offer that.

That being said, back in 2014, when I visited an escort or two that year (no refused their offer for sex but was flattered they asked me for sex, or attempted to sex me, meaning I rejected their sexual advances and felt validated a woman offered sex and I refused it), I never felt rejected or like the escort did not like me and with my very limited exposure, have not been rejected by escorts. I felt rejected when I tried speed-dating afterwards though.
Thanks for your reply, just on the hookers who refuse to service men of certain races, is this common place? (I assume you’re from the USA?).
 

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Cmon guys this discussion about a hooker “liking” a John is ridiculous. Whatever you receive from them is an act, that you think they “like” you is an act, it’s all smoke and mirrors.

Sweet baby Jesus the lack of self-awareness and grasp of reality is astounding.
 
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Step a bit back and think about it for a second, SS. It's not really that hard....
User name is Ugly bastard, a newcomer - not asking for advice and making threads
Just think...
Who in their right mind would pick a username like Ugly troll?

Stop feeding....please.
 

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Thanks for your reply, just on the hookers who refuse to service men of certain races, is this common place? (I assume you’re from the USA?).
Yes, its very common to see that in their ads. In fact it is so bad that unless an escort actually says that she does not discriminate and sees all guys, that even ads that dont bring it up might even be assumed racist but are not wanting to put off liberal white guys by putting it blatantly in their ad. They might still be subtle about it (ie when calling or texting they want to know age and background or may refuse to see young black guys). I am in Canada but the USA is likely the same.

That being said the reverse is also interesting. Sometimes an escort might have a racist ad and then after a while remove the racist "no black guys" part. When that happens it has me curious about why she changed that on her ad. She got a bad enough experience from a white guy and sees the restriction as stupid?
 

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Some, if not a good number of them are known to discriminate against black people. Chads and Tyrones might also visit escorts too but they are not "escortcelling", and are either MTGOWs, or they like the impersonal, anonymous and thrilling nature of that compared to civie women who may not be as good as pleasing a man compared to a pro. In the Chad/Tyrone and civvie dynamic, it's the Chad/Tyrones who are pleasing the women rather than the woman pleasing them. Sometimes someone may have a very niche fantasy, like doing a facial or something else, and a civvie may not be into that, but a pro might just offer that.

That being said, back in 2014, when I visited an escort or two that year (no refused their offer for sex but was flattered they asked me for sex, or attempted to sex me, meaning I rejected their sexual advances and felt validated a woman offered sex and I refused it), I never felt rejected or like the escort did not like me and with my very limited exposure, have not been rejected by escorts. I felt rejected when I tried speed-dating afterwards though.
Great points , especially the Tyrone- women dynamic and who pleases who.

There's a reason why prime Charly Sheen and Hugh Grant preferred the ten dollar car bj over super models at times..because they wanted to be pleased by a pro, and i net theayer of excitement also added to the the experience.

Some prostitutes told me that non white clients bring more problems, so they simply cut them off when they have a steady stream of white clients that dont bring any problems. It is what it is.
 

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Some prostitutes told me that non white clients bring more problems, so they simply cut them off when they have a steady stream of white clients that dont bring any problems. It is what it is.
I thought you were non white yourself and they told you that?
 

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I thought you were non white yourself and they told you that?
Absolutely, I am non white, but I am always the "exception immigrant ". I've been to hardstyle EMD parties where racist people would tell me "i am pretty fly for a black guy".


Also had many women telling me I was there first non white relationship. I could be Asian ,Latin or Arab and I'd be saying the same thing(although I'm also part Asain and native American).
 

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Any man can fix his looks to a certain degree.

Hit the gym hard and get as fit as you possibly can !

If balding then just get a numer 2 on top and 1 on the sides and call it a day.
Dress accordingly and boom after 6 months you're not ugly but semi decent looking.
 

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Absolutely, I am non white, but I am always the "exception immigrant ". I've been to hardstyle EMD parties where racist people would tell me "i am pretty fly for a black guy".


Also had many women telling me I was there first non white relationship. I could be Asian ,Latin or Arab and I'd be saying the same thing(although I'm also part Asain and native American).
So its not as rigid as the one drop rule.
 

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Step a bit back and think about it for a second, SS. It's not really that hard....
User name is Ugly bastard, a newcomer - not asking for advice and making threads
Just think...
Who in their right mind would pick a username like Ugly troll?

Stop feeding....please.
I’m not a troll, I’m deadly serious, if you want send me a pm and I’ll show you I’m the real deal.

I actually am an ugly looking bastard in real life (that’s life and my tough luck), I post here to warn other men about the PUA scam. Don’t get me wrong I don’t begrudge any man wanting to improve himself, especially when it comes to women, but PUA and so called game isn’t the solution for men who want to get laid.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Any man can fix his looks to a certain degree.

Hit the gym hard and get as fit as you possibly can !

If balding then just get a numer 2 on top and 1 on the sides and call it a day.
Dress accordingly and boom after 6 months you're not ugly but semi decent looking.
I’m nerdy guy and learning game when I was younger would have helped a lot. As I fumbled too many opportunities.
 

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Any man can fix his looks to a certain degree.

Hit the gym hard and get as fit as you possibly can !

If balding then just get a numer 2 on top and 1 on the sides and call it a day.
Dress accordingly and boom after 6 months you're not ugly but semi decent looking.
What if he is not 6’0?
 

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What if he is not 6’0?
It's going to be a tougher path for a man who is not 6'0"+. White women in the United States have been culturally trained to believe that 6'0" is the beginning point of desirability. Men below 6'0" are mostly trash according to these women.

Plenty of men below 6'0" get laid, so it's not doomsday to be below 6'0". The further away from 6'0", the more difficult that it will be.

Game is some combination of looks, money, status, and personality. Without 6'0"+ happening with looks, men need to either getting more fit to compensate, or compensate somewhere with money, status, or personality.
 

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Mods would please merged this thread with the previous one by this poster?


OP: why two threads on the same subject?
I had forgotten that I made a similar thread before, my mistake, me bad.
 

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I’ve gotten the impression that even hookers don’t want unattractive men. An incel buddy & I went to a strip club a couple of years ago. We were sitting together at a booth. One of the girls came by, chatted me up a bit & offereed ‘for a hundred dollars, you can take me into the back and do whatever you want with me.’. I declined. She didn’t bother asking my friend, in fact, she treated him like he didn’t exist.
Strippers don't care about your looks, they care if you make eye contact. Your friend probably wasn't making eye contact with her. They go to who locks eyes with them, and then start making proposals.
 
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