Talking about redpill stuff with women

[Gamisch]

Whats your experience talking with women about redpill stuff, such as hypergamy, monkeybranching ect? Imo most women get defensive, and they hardly ever acknowledge certain facts. A man on the other will silently nod his head. I know that its basically pointless to talk about rp stuff with women, but when it does happen it seems like an alternative reality.

Your thoughts?

 

[LucianoM]

I've talked about it from time to time and most women are in agreement with me. I don't think I've ever had one get defensive.

 

[Plinco]

Whats your experience talking with women about redpill stuff, such as hypergamy, monkeybranching ect? Imo most women get defensive, and they hardly ever acknowledge certain facts. A man on the other will silently nod his head. I know that its basically pointless to talk about rp stuff with women, but when it does happen it seems like an alternative reality.

Your thoughts?

Even if they don't agree with you, if you stick to your guns they will respect you more

 

[mikedee]

Whats your experience talking with women about redpill stuff, such as hypergamy, monkeybranching ect? Imo most women get defensive, and they hardly ever acknowledge certain facts. A man on the other will silently nod his head. I know that its basically pointless to talk about rp stuff with women, but when it does happen it seems like an alternative reality.

Your thoughts?

Defensive, all the time, because they know it's true.

 

[HaleyBaron]

You never are suppose to. It's like telling a mouse how to avoid getting caught by the cat. Also, these topics are usually boring for women. Women like fun and entertainment. Deep thoughts is for men.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Just don’t. They’ll lie, deny, and obfuscate. It’s a waste of time.

 

[Stanley]

I don't reveal my cards to them. RP is something I keep in my back pocket. I think most men don't properly digest the praxeology and resent women as result.

Most women detest the RP rhetoric and jump to defensiveness because the Red Pill leaves them raw. They resist because they see truth in it and do not want to upset the power imbalance between men and women. In my experience it is best to not talk to anyone about RP knowledge in the real world.

With women they see it as a threat and the men irl i've spoken with brings weirdos out of the woodwork. Bitter angry men who hate women, inversely speaking about RP concepts to AFC's/BP leads them to thinking you are strange and they emotionally reframe everything like a woman.

It is best to take the knowledge and apply it when needed.

Law 3: Conceal Your Intentions: Always hide your true intentions. Create a smokescreen. If you keep people off-balance and in the dark, they can’t counter your efforts.

Law 4: Always Say Less than Necessary: Say little and be ambiguous, leaving the meaning to others to interpret. The less you say, the more intimidating and powerful you are.

 

[pipeman84]

I was talking with my mom about a 39yrs old woman who married her husband at around the age of 31. The main talking points were 1. an article she wrote when she was 28 talking among other things about her exes and that she's on good terms with all of them. 2. the fact that on her IG (it's a professional page, no bikini photos) description she doesn't mention she's married ... she mentions she's a dog mom, believer, animal lover etc

I was arguing 1. the husband is a chump (has the looks of it) ... what kind of self respecting guy would marry a woman who has several exes? I was talking PG of course, but the message I was trying to convey was that it's not believable that she found 'true love' when she hit 31 ... how many exes does she have to go trough till 'I love you' losses its meaning? It's an obvious case of settling (the guy has a good job). My mom was disagreeing, she said that she sees no problem that the woman had exes.

2. I said this is a strong argument that the guy is a chump ... what kind of masculine man lets her woman put in the IG description that she's a dog mom but doesn't mention she's a wife?! The expression 'dog mom' is bad enough ... to omit saying she's a wife it's unfathomable. My mom didn't see anything wrong with this. I was like, OK mom, let's agree to disagree.

 

[HaleyBaron]

It's important to understand that when women bring up these topics, as they tend to do cause some of them do watch the youtube videos or tiktoks of the rp stuff...just treat them as children and pretend you never heard of any of it. PUA, rp, etc. Even when women know the tactics, they always fall for it when they meet a guy they like. Always.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

No. Stop, do not attempt. You have been warned.

 

[Gamisch]

I don't reveal my cards to them. RP is something I keep in my back pocket. I think most men don't properly digest the praxeology and resent women as result.

Most women detest the RP rhetoric and jump to defensiveness because the Red Pill leaves them raw. They resist because they see truth in it and do not want to upset the power imbalance between men and women. In my experience it is best to not talk to anyone about RP knowledge in the real world.

With women they see it as a threat and the men irl i've spoken with brings weirdos out of the woodwork. Bitter angry men who hate women, inversely speaking about RP concepts to AFC's/BP leads them to thinking you are strange and they emotionally reframe everything like a woman.

It is best to take the knowledge and apply it when needed.

Law 3: Conceal Your Intentions: Always hide your true intentions. Create a smokescreen. If you keep people off-balance and in the dark, they can’t counter your efforts.

Law 4: Always Say Less than Necessary: Say little and be ambiguous, leaving the meaning to others to interpret. The less you say, the more intimidating and powerful you are.

Yeah great take. Sometimes this shyte becomes a logical second nature and some thoughts escape your mouth. Soon as relationships and dating comes up it might indeed be best to realize most women will think, pretend and defend bluepill-ish believes. Its like arguing about religion. There's no win.

 

[Gamisch]

No. Stop, do not attempt. You have been warned.

Please elaborate.

 

[Gamisch]

It's important to understand that when women bring up these topics, as they tend to do cause some of them do watch the youtube videos or tiktoks of the rp stuff...just treat them as children and pretend you never heard of any of it. PUA, rp, etc. Even when women know the tactics, they always fall for it when they meet a guy they like. Always.

I think someone like Andrew tate increased the chance of this happening, but generally most women ai encounter never bring up RP jargon. Ofcourse you'll hear about their's or their friends actions and you categorize it.

I agree that women obviously know about all the tactics , because they have way more game than men, starting dating at a younger age. Yet they'll fall for it, like we men also fall for the oldest tricks in the book.

 

[threeforfree]

Don't give up your playbook.

If they know what you're doing, they'll despise you for it. If they don't know that you're doing it, they'll get w3t.

 

[Gamisch]

Even if they don't agree with you, if you stick to your guns they will respect you more

Oke interesting take. Generally it seems most men try to avoid it and I can imagine why. You might attempt to "teach" a woman about some things that the manosphere stand for and "train" her, but it seems women will defend their " sisterhood ".

It seems that RP stuff and women are a toxic combination, and talking about it with them will always have a negative outcome for you as a man.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Don't give up your playbook.

If they know what you're doing, they'll despise you for it. If they don't know that you're doing it, they'll get w3t.

The contradiction is that women want you to learn it regardless.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Please elaborate.

Pierce lives in an extreme leftist area.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Oke interesting take. Generally it seems most men try to avoid it and I can imagine why. You might attempt to "teach" a woman about some things that the manosphere stand for and "train" her, but it seems women will defend their " sisterhood ".

It seems that RP stuff and women are a toxic combination, and talking about it with them will always have a negative outcome for you as a man.

Even if they agree with some of it, the conversation will at some point end in disagreement.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Please elaborate.

1. Women are the ultimate solipsists. She will take umbrage.
2. They will instinctively protect the “sisterhood”, even the most enlightened of them will knee jerk when you reveal something women “don’t talk about”.
3. You will be looked down on by women, she will poison the well too telling everyone what you said.
4. They cannot be objective about their agency.

Anecdote: one of my plates - great sex, no fuss, no muss - brought up Andrew Tate and the red pill. I feigned ignorance - just nodded and uhuh’d - and made her explain the red pill to me which she did and she was so off the mark it was absurd. RP is considered sad-sack and rapey in mainstream culture, you don’t want that associated with you.

Anyway bad idea all around.

 

[Gamisch]

1. Women are the ultimate solipsists. She will take umbrage.
2. They will instinctively protect the “sisterhood”, even the most enlightened of them will knee jerk when you reveal something women “don’t talk about”.
3. You will be looked down on by women, she will poison the well too telling everyone what you said.
4. They cannot be objective about their agency.

Exactly this. The irony is that women hate eachother because of the things men warn eachother about in the manosphere. The hypergamy ,monkeybranching and general slvt behaviour ; women resent it as well.

They are always in multiple competitions with one another.