Another to add to the red flag list

[Pierce Manhammer]

I searched for a sticky on red flags; there seems not to be a comprehensive list - should we start one?

Vegetarians Suffer More Depression Than Meat Eaters
People who follow a vegetarian lifestyle have around twice as many depressive episodes as those who eat meat, according to the Brazilian Longitudinal Study of Adult Health.

What to Know

• The high incidence of depression among vegetarians is not caused by nutrition but possibly by several factors, including the vegetarian social experience; depression itself may increase the likelihood of becoming vegetarian, or both vegetarianism and depression may be associated with guilt through factors involving the meat industry.
• Adopting a vegetarian diet might affect one's relationship with others and involvement in social activities and may sometimes be associated with teasing or other forms of social ostracism.
• It is possible that being depressed and dwelling on negative thoughts cause people to be more likely to become vegetarian rather than the other way around.
• Videos depicting violence and cruelty in the meat industry may affect depressed people, causing them to dwell on the images, feel guilty for their part in creating the demand for meat, and become vegetarian.
• Survey data were collected in Brazil, a country famous for its meat-heavy diet,and while there has been a sharp increase in vegetarianism, vegetarians still account for less than 0.5%.

This is a summary of the article, "Association Between Meatless Diet and Depressive Episodes: A Cross-sectional Analysis of Baseline Data From the Longitudinal Study of Adult Health (ELSA-Brasil)," published in the Journal of Affective Disorders. The full article can be found on sciencedirect.com.

Source: https://www.medscape.com/viewarticl...pmrk_psych_depress&uac=416768PV&impID=5297289

 

[pipeman84]

Vegan and vegetarian (lesser extent though) is one of the biggest red flags ... indicates lack of critical thinking/gullibility and probably mental issues.

The high incidence of depression among vegetarians is not caused by nutrition

It might not be 100% caused by nutrition, but a deficient nutrition sure as heck doesn't help.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

No matter the reason for it, it still exists in this population group. Eating shrubbery exclusively is a flag for depression. In most cases that’s all that matters in the context of what we’re speaking of.

I eat a ton of vegetables, but I sure love love animal proteins.

 

[Stanley]

Also something worth noting is 92% of vegetarians and vegans are b12 deficient which causes a large amount of sexual, mental and physical health issues. I briefly dated a girl who was vegetarian and was a lovely person, but after a few weeks the crazy started to show. Don't know how much of it was due to rabbit food diet though lol

 

[EyeBRollin]

I’ve dated two vegans, both were pleasant all the way around. They were also fit with tight sexy bodies.

I myself turned pescatarian 4 months ago (for health reasons not ethical). I can see where some of the struggles come from. Restaurants and social events do the bare minimum or nothing at all accommodate non-meat eaters. It is annoying.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I doubt depression from diet is due to social stigma, it's not even that hard to adhere to a keto diet socially, vegetarian/vegan is popular now and i'm sure most restaurants are accomodating. I find it unlikely a vegetarian, but especially a vegan, can get enough fats (especially EPA/DHA) and other meat-derived nutrients like tyrosine/phenylalanine, tryptophan, cholesterol (which we need) creatine, taurine, carnitine, zinc, heme iron, b vitamins, even straight protein, the list goes on and on.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I doubt depression from diet is due to social stigma, it's not even that hard to adhere to a keto diet socially, vegetarian/vegan is popular now and i'm sure most restaurants are accomodating.

Keto is not comparable to a vegetarian/vegan diet. I can assure you most restaurants have no vegetarian options or only offer one choice (usually impossible-based which is soy or beyond based which is pea, never both). With Keto you can go into a steakhouse or burger joint and easily omit the bread and potato. The best a vegan can do is order a salad, but those are often topped with eggs, cheese, and meat. Greens-only salads are not filling at all.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Keto is not comparable to a vegetarian/vegan diet. I can assure you most restaurants have no vegetarian options or only offer one choice (usually impossible-based which is soy or beyond based which is pea, never both). With Keto you can go into a steakhouse or burger joint and easily omit the bread and potato. The best a vegan can do is order a salad, but those are often topped with eggs, cheese, and meat. Greens-only salads are not filling at all.

Depends where you live, but there are no shortage of restaurants in LA that placate to special diets. Either way point is moot imo, the purpose of going out to eat should be for socializing not food; just get soup or something.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I myself turned pescatarian 4 months ago (for health reasons not ethical). I can see where some of the struggles come from. Restaurants and social events do the bare minimum or nothing at all accommodate non-meat eaters. It is annoying.

Dude, I'm sure most will have a cucumber for you.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Depends where you live, but there are no shortage of restaurants in LA that placate to special diets. Either way point is moot imo, the purpose of going out to eat should be for socializing not food; just get soup or something.

You are masterfully proving the point here. This is what vegetarians and vegans struggle with. The diet is not the Western “norm” so the expectation is to “just deal with it.” Imagine having to carefully plan food choices every time you step out of your house.

While on the road I basically survive on salmon salads. I legit feel bad for vegans.

Dude, I'm sure most will have a cucumber for you.

No need to troll. That is not a meal

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

No need to troll. That is not a meal

That was meant as a friendly joke, brother. Don't get butthurt.

 

[Kotaix]

I would assume that anyone who is vegetarian for ethical reasons is going to have more feefees than your average "normal" person and therefore be more prone to depression, especially if they're the kind to overthink things.

 

[MtmVaott]

Keto is not comparable to a vegetarian/vegan diet. I can assure you most restaurants have no vegetarian options or only offer one choice (usually impossible-based which is soy or beyond based which is pea, never both). With Keto you can go into a steakhouse or burger joint and easily omit the bread and potato. The best a vegan can do is order a salad, but those are often topped with eggs, cheese, and meat. Greens-only salads are not filling at all.

How do you keep up your protein-intake?

 

[EyeBRollin]

How do you keep up your protein-intake?

Fish, dairy, grains, and lots of beans.

 

[Kotaix]

How do you keep up your protein-intake?

Beans are a great source of vegetarian protein, also tofurkey and other meat stand-in products are good sources of protein.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Well, one of the two groups has to have more depression, it's unlikely it would be exactly even between carnivores and vegetarians. That's not much of a statistic. It doesn't mean that it causes the depression.

I'd guess politically-motivated vegetarians are more likely to be depressed because those types are always agitating.

Women who don't eat meat to stay thin and healthy are fine by me. I can get behind animal rights to a certain degree (non-cruelty). But once it gets to a level of shaming people, I'm out. Not eating meat on its own is not a red flag - most meat in the US is full of feces and god knows what else. And yes I eat meat but I try to keep a limit on it for this reason.

 

[RazorRambo24]

I’ve dated two vegans, both were pleasant all the way around. They were also fit with tight sexy bodies.

I myself turned pescatarian 4 months ago (for health reasons not ethical). I can see where some of the struggles come from. Restaurants and social events do the bare minimum or nothing at all accommodate non-meat eaters. It is annoying.

Nice, I also dated 2 vegans before lol. 1 was kinda cool and sophisticated, modelesque beauty, not so much heightwise, was kinda short.. Serbian but also knew Japanese and was overall cool-- just seemed way too sophisticated for me at the time.. we def did not vibe well.. she was classy af --didnt even drink beer or hard liquor just wine

The other was one of those spiritual metaphysical hippy types.. didnt have a job when i met her and i have no idea how she was living... but a smokeshow, she used to grow shrooms and was super passionate, really good in bed.. I did her super dirty tho..

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

The issue with soybean protein is that it’s a e2 mimicker - aka phytoestrogen. It binds to e2 sites the same way endogenous e2 does.

Beans are a great source of vegetarian protein, also tofurkey and other meat stand-in products are good sources of protein.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

It is a marker for depressives, if you don’t consider depression a problem in a potential partner then simply move along…

Information= Power

Jeezus lol are we here now? What she eats?
Dude if you are tripping on "what" she eats your ngmi

 

[Bokanovsky]

Fish, dairy, grains, and lots of beans.

You must be fun to carpool with