"I won't date a man under 6-foot-5"

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It's the difference between social conditioning and some biological factors.

Most average range men (5'9"-5'11") have enough height for women 5'7" and under to be satisfied. 5'8"-5'9" is tall-ish for a woman and 5'10" is tall. A 5'10" woman likely isn't going to be satisfied with a 5'9" or a 5'10" guy, especially not a 5'9" guy.

I think most men are reasonable about this.

What annoys men are 5'5" and under women demanding men 6'0"+. A 5'9" or 5'10" man is a good option for a 5'4" woman.

There are plenty of 5'0"-5'5" women demanding men 6'0"+ when they actually don't need that, a trait that has gotten worse in the last 20 years. The guys who have suffered the most due to female abundance, female entitlement, and ever increase female demands are the average range height guys like the 5'8"-5'11" guys. These are guys typically taller than women but not tall enough to be considered most desirable. They will meet the women's biological need for being with a taller man in most cases but not be tall enough for the social conditioning demands.

In the United States, it is White women who are most fussy about men's height. Social conditioning height demands are less common for Hispanic and East Asian ancestry women.
 

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Height is like boobs. My ex- had amazing boobs. (5’5”) my current has smaller (she’s 5’ so appropriate). Yeah. I’d like a little bigger. But it’s not a deal-breaker. My experience. As long as I’m at least her height, it’s been fine.
 

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Women genuinely do not understand height and I would place this blame on OLD. Women started becoming more picky in regards to height and men began to inflate theirs in the bio section. You are 5'10? On Tinder that means 6'2.

I can recall a few years back while playing with a band where a short vocalist (like 5'4) was surprised when I stood up to solo. At the end of the set she commented on my height to which I responded "I'm just 6 foot" and she gasped and said "YOU ARE NOT"! I was confused since she just called me tall and she said our drummer was 6ft. I had the drummer walk over, he was quite literally 6'6.

They do not know. Thus the memes and specific standards in regards to height.
 

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Most women have no idea what 6' looks like let alone 6'5".
Exactly. In Europe, these height preferences do not exist. They just care about the number, but I bet if you asked 100 women on the street to visually show how long 6' is, almost all of them would be off by at least a few inches. Similarly I don't think women would be able to guess how long 6" is either. They tend to have poor visio-spatial reasoning skills, it's an evolutionary thing, they didn't do any hunting, building, etc so there is no innate ability for them to have those skills.
 

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Most women have no idea what 6' looks like let alone 6'5".
A 5'9"-5'10"+ woman is going to know what a 6'0"+ man looks like.

Lying about height does set a bad precedent for longer term relationships. It's almost mandatory to lie about height on apps. It's possible for a man to get away with a height lie if it's close and that's passable for one night stands and casual relationships. It's more problematic for some sort of LTR.

Even men who don't use swipe apps and rely on in-person approaching sometimes feel the pressure of the 6'0" socially programmed female height preference.

I don't think women would be able to guess how long 6" is either. They tend to have poor visio-spatial reasoning skills, it's an evolutionary thing, they didn't do any hunting, building, etc so there is no innate ability for them to have those skills.
These points are valid.
 

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Here’s the problem, if she’s ever dated a guy who was 6’5 then she will measure all other guys to him.
True, but Who cares?

if this is a girl taken seriously and she was hung up on the past with a taller guy why even bother with her? Girls that compare in excess are shallow and are only good for one thing. You should have other positive qualities in other aspects of yourself which set you apart, if you don't then start grinding and if you do and she doesn't recognize them then pump and dump.

Also, men can be shallow too. We compare physically just as girls do, there is nothing wrong with that within reason.
 

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In the United States, it is White women who are most fussy about men's height. Social conditioning height demands are less common for Hispanic and East Asian ancestry women.
That’s true, although in the East the mans hair is of upmost importance. A woman will sacrifice height for a man having hair in the East.

With all the height and hair conditions women have, shouldnt Sosuave have the disclaimer: “before entering our website, you agree to the fact that you are at least 6’0 and have all your hair. Sosuave will not be liable for anything that happens with women if you are not.”
 

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A 5'9"-5'10"+ woman is going to know what a 6'0"+ man looks like.
This is true. I typically go for taller girls - 5'8-5'10 and if I lied about my height I'd be eye level with them in heels. Tall girls can easily tell. I'm attracted to them more than short girls, but tall girls always make me feel conscious about my height even at 6'2. Have to walk with perfect posture with them. Maybe I should go for shorter like 5'5-5'7 and feel like a giant.
 

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Here’s the problem, if she’s ever dated a guy who was 6’5 then she will measure all other guys to him.
Height matters until it doesn't. Women will excuse away whatever they need to if they are into a guy enough.
 
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