Swipe apps are great for practicing text game and thats about it.

[Bingo-Player]

I recently gave Tinder another chance

I looksmaxxed the fvck out of my profile 2x gym pics , 1x topless ( 6 pac) and 1 of me out in the wild , i put nothing in my bio ( doesn't seem to make a blind bit of difference)

Within 2 1/2 weeks i had around 150 likes i didn't pay for anything so at least 100+ of them i can't see

the algorithm seems to like my profile ( compared to previous iterations) and it allowed me to make make 25-30 matches in a fortnight which i think is high considering they don't actually want you having matches as it means you won't pay

Half of these matches were trash low quality women also looksmaxxing but there were a few that seemed OK

The fitter looking ones i began to engage in conversation my main aim was to just try a broad range of stuff and see what stuck

Its kind of fun because nobody is really on there for anything other than a dopamine hit , there are some absolute lunatics on there and it is funny to crank them up a little.

Some girls were more than happy to give numbers after a bit of banter / flirting and some girls are even happy to do a bit of sex talk

But generally i found once things started to get a bit serious I.E "are you free on XYZ" most just vanished off the face of the earth

I firmly believe most women under 30 who are on these apps have absolutely no intention of going on any dates with anyone and the ones that are over 30 are damaged & fvcking mental

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The good news is the women on these apps will reply the same as a girl you met IRL will makes it a great platform for experimentation without having the worry of ever seeing them IRL

the apps let you try risky stuff out so you know how to move a conversation from small talk to flirting to turning her on

I quickly learned that dead end questions like

" how are you"

" how's you day been "

" what do you do for work"

These are an absolute no go and most women won't even respond , you're definitely rewarded for being creative with the conversation

Don't take them seriously guys , just go and have some fun push some buttons !!

 

[corsica]

Those apps just inflate women’s egos and destroy men’s mental sanity.

It’s not easy to maintain a hot woman entertained but online it’s almost impossible. I see young men on r/tinder breaking their minds trying to figure it out how to discover/invent an opener or how to keep a girl’s attention…
- dude! She’s talking to hundreds of guys. She can’t do it at the same time. Imagine going to a nightclub and trying to pickup a girl that has a circle of ten men around her. Multiply by ten and you’ll have Tinder.

I feel sorry for the younger generation of men. They think they’ll win the lottery in life. Be it in the job market (“I’ll be a rich YouTuber/athlete/musician/actor) or in romance (thinking that messaging thousands of girls eventually something good will appear).

As for solution, make money. You don’t need to be millionaire. Plenty of blue collar jobs that pay +$100k/year.
Have hobbies. Sports, not video games! Increase your social circle. Interact with women by simply talking to them (in person!). If you have your life in order, you’re above average and girls will show interest.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Those apps just inflate women’s egos and destroy men’s mental sanity.

It’s not easy to maintain a hot woman entertained but online it’s almost impossible. I see young men on r/tinder breaking their minds trying to figure it out how to discover/invent an opener or how to keep a girl’s attention…
- dude! She’s talking to hundreds of guys. She can’t do it at the same time. Imagine going to a nightclub and trying to pickup a girl that has a circle of ten men around her. Multiply by ten and you’ll have Tinder.

I feel sorry for the younger generation of men. They think they’ll win the lottery in life. Be it in the job market (“I’ll be a rich YouTuber/athlete/musician/actor) or in romance (thinking that messaging thousands of girls eventually something good will appear).

As for solution, make money. You don’t need to be millionaire. Plenty of blue collar jobs that pay +$100k/year.
Have hobbies. Sports, not video games! Increase your social circle. Interact with women by simply talking to them (in person!). If you have your life in order, you’re above average and girls will show interest.

I agree but that wasn't the point of the post

at some stage you will need to text / message a woman even if you met her IRL its completely inevitable

By learning the ropes on these apps you will have a huge advantage of knowing what to say and when to say it

My point was you don't need to worry about offending or saying something stupid / creepy / needy /risky on these apps because none of these women will meet you anyway

Its like the best feedback you can possibly get with absolutely zero risk

Getting responses for me was no issue infact some girls were replying so quickly i couldn't keep up with them all

 

[patb]

As for solution, make money. You don’t need to be millionaire. Plenty of blue collar jobs that pay +$100k/year.
Have hobbies. Sports, not video games! Increase your social circle. Interact with women by simply talking to them (in person!). If you have your life in order, you’re above average and girls will show interest.

Sadly not the case.

 

[Smok1nAce]

Maybe 5 years ago.

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Let me put it this way, what type of woman has to go on an app site to find a guy.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Never used Tinder but from what I hear it sucks for getting actual results.

Bumble or Hinge are like shooting fish in a barrel for me.

 

[pipeman84]

Man, 'text game' sounds beta AF to me. Practicing 'text game' on swipe apps in the belief it will help in real life interaction with females is like playing those Nintendo karate games to prepare for actual karate fighting.

 

[SW15]

Avoid dating apps as a man if you value your sanity.

That has been my experience.

Let me put it this way, what type of woman has to go on an app site to find a guy.

Someone who can't put something together as a result of her in-person activity.

 

[patb]

Maybe 5 years ago.

Avoid dating apps as a man if you value your sanity.
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Let me put it this way, what type of woman has to go on an app site to find a guy.

“Real life” is not an improvement. I have to go out and suffer the bar scene from time to time to remind myself of that

 

[SW15]

“Real life” is not an improvement. I have to go out and suffer the bar scene from time to time to remind myself of that

It's a slight improvement. We are designed for real life interactions.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Man, 'text game' sounds beta AF to me. Practicing 'text game' on swipe apps in the belief it will help in real life interaction with females is like playing those Nintendo karate games to prepare for actual karate fighting.

It won't help real life interaction that is a completely different ball game

But "text game" is real (super real for anyone under 40)

You meet a woman IRL and it goes well she will either give you her number or her social media either one you have to communicate digitally if you want to see her again

There are rules to this and a lot of men DO NOT KNOW them which is why we have 1000's of threads asking why "why has she ghosted me"

i'm just saying swipe apps are a good way to reverse engineer the rules .

 

[Bingo-Player]

“Real life” is not an improvement. I have to go out and suffer the bar scene from time to time to remind myself of that

Bar scene is another waste of time unless you are 18-25 have very large social circles / are in university or college n

The best options for 30+ are real life approaches in gyms, parks , coffee shops , libraries and to some extent churches

 

[FlirtLife]

I looksmaxxed the fvck out of my profile 2x gym pics , 1x topless ( 6 pac) and 1 of me out in the wild , i put nothing in my bio ( doesn't seem to make a blind bit of difference)

Within 2 1/2 weeks i had around 150 likes i didn't pay for anything so at least 100+ of them i can't see

To put your results in context, can I ask your looks on a 1-10 scale?
I assume included gym pics because you look muscular?
Consider adding a travel pic - and your bio could be "I love travel, too!". I'd be curious how many women think you read their minds (assuming "I love travel" remains popular on Tinder).

I think Tinder starts you out with lower tier people, and if you get many likes, moves you up a notch. Several years ago, I was on Tinder and got lots of matches (as a foreigner in Asia) and went on lots of dates. Half the dates involved women who had gained noticable weight but hadn't updated their photos. Fortunately I did it mostly to socialize, and hopefully to find a girlfriend (which I did). All of this was long before I joined SoSuave or read "The Rational Male".

 

[corsica]

I agree but that wasn't the point of the post

at some stage you will need to text / message a woman even if you met her IRL its completely inevitable

By learning the ropes on these apps you will have a huge advantage of knowing what to say and when to say it

My first paragraph was my point. You might practice how it is to text a girl but you're just inflating their egos and screwing for everybody else.

I keep texting a girl to a minimum. When I do it's mostly to arrange when and where to meet in person. I let them know I'm busy most of the time. It helps to keep an aura of mystery, value (I'm a busy man) and the best of all; you'll have something to talk about when you meet. If you're texting the girl all the time, she knows you have a lot of free time and you're not keeping her wondering what you're doing. Since women have great imagination, you could be scratching your balls at home and she might think you're banging beautiful women or saving the planet like superman.

Texting +100 girls per month is a lot of time wasted to maybe bang below-average girls. You should value your time.

 

[FlirtLife]

But "text game" is real (super real for anyone under 40)
...
There are rules to this and a lot of men DO NOT KNOW them which is why we have 1000's of threads asking why "why has she ghosted me"

Whenever I've seen other guys "flirt", it has been 100% cringe. I suspect the word means something entirely different to me. Most guys mean "say sexual things", and they do this for a short while and then try to escalate in some way.

Despite my handle here ("Flirt Life"), I've been reluctant to define what I consider flirting - I suspect 99% of guys will have no clue there's another level to flirting. And after all, who am I to claim I can flirt? It's not like I visit SoSuave to flirt with other guys, so there's no evidence of it in my posts.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

My first Tinder date, a 6/10 23 year old, had 54 guys texting her via Tinder as we were setting up our date. She had me FaceTime her (I guess she was catfished before). She was visiting my area for the weekend and she already had hundreds of Likes have just put herself here. imagine an 8/10's Likes! unfortunately, success on Tinder is probably 80% or more you having the 'look' they like. What I like about Tinder is, if you match, it's almost certainly because she likes your looks. So your foot is in the door. While Tinder should be used as an adjunct. Don't underrate its potential. I had a great time on it and got two GFs out of it. It's especially useful if you travel solo for work. Set your location to where you'll be (in advance, timing is tricky). & write 'I'll be in BFE Thursday on business. looking to get a drink, hang out , meet someone cool'. Or similar.

 

[RazorRambo24]

A good IG / Twitter page with alot of social value will outdo a Tinder account.

ie: I got a friend whos an artist/musician that is basically unknown.. a nobody in the real world, but he had about 5,000 followers on twitter and his twitter was him hanging with a buncha cool friends, at parties with different girls, basically portraying a lifestyle.. that a buncha 18-23 yr olds wanted to be apart of.. They're all hunting for "where the party is at" anyways..

This dude used to get so many beautiful groupies that wanted to hang out with us and just be around.. half of these chicks wouldn't leave.. spending the whole day just in our presence. it was weird.. its like we were the coolest thing ever to them. This crowd was yougner than me, I was already about 26 at the time.. most of them were like 20-23 (Depaul University kids)

Sadly, the dude's moment in the sun ran dry when some chick from his highschool came out with rape allegations, and some other girl or something tagged onto it and it made a huge rift on twitter and he eventually went incognito LOL.. Fuccin guy.

P.s. his music was utter trash..

 

[EyeBRollin]

I had a lot of success on swipe apps.

 

[Stanley]

I think for most guys this is fairly accurate, but if you're well above average that's another story. Girls are on there for attention, but there are those that are looking for that one guy they're willing to put out for. I had good success on tinder and have yet to try any other apps...

 

[Bingo-Player]

To put your results in context, can I ask your looks on a 1-10 scale?
I assume included gym pics because you look muscular?
Consider adding a travel pic - and your bio could be "I love travel, too!". I'd be curious how many women think you read their minds (assuming "I love travel" remains popular on Tinder).

I think Tinder starts you out with lower tier people, and if you get many likes, moves you up a notch. Several years ago, I was on Tinder and got lots of matches (as a foreigner in Asia) and went on lots of dates. Half the dates involved women who had gained noticable weight but hadn't updated their photos. Fortunately I did it mostly to socialize, and hopefully to find a girlfriend (which I did). All of this was long before I joined SoSuave or read "The Rational Male".

probably around an 8 and have a slightly bigger physique than Brad Pitt in fight club

The girls i was matching with ranged from 6 - 8 , i highly suspect the majority of the 100+ "hidden likes' were probably women under a 6 and ones i had previously swiped no to

There are some VERY big women in my local area i came across a HB 3 on there openly saying she had a husband and wanted to cheat on him

I thought to myself

"LOVE if i was you i would hold onto that man for dear fvcking life"