63% of young American men are single while most women in the same age group are in relationships

[sangheilios]

No attractive woman is single. I can’t count the times I’ve had a woman monkey branch to me.

I partially agree with this. More often than not, I feel that if a woman ever tells you she has a boyfriend you are just better off moving on. Even if she was interested, there's no real reason to actively pursue a woman that is in a relationship. We have to factor in some context though, if this is some random woman you crossed paths with I'd say it's safe to say she just isn't interested. If this is someone you have at least some capacity to see again she'll make it easy for you down the road. Just saying, I don't think it's safe to pursue women that are taken and have them monkey branch over, the guy could break a gasket and freak out over it.

 

[Stanley]

I partially agree with this. More often than not, I feel that if a woman ever tells you she has a boyfriend you are just better off moving on. Even if she was interested, there's no real reason to actively pursue a woman that is in a relationship. We have to factor in some context though, if this is some random woman you crossed paths with I'd say it's safe to say she just isn't interested. If this is someone you have at least some capacity to see again she'll make it easy for you down the road. Just saying, I don't think it's safe to pursue women that are taken and have them monkey branch over, the guy could break a gasket and freak out over it.

I agree. I've been a girlfriend stealer in the past and it only lead to more and more problems. There was always a genuine lack of trust and it just isn't worth it. If it is just a hookup you're after and you'll never see her again? Up to you and where your moral compass lies... That and I've had whacko ex's try to start **** with me. Lesson learned.

I've had girls that were in relationships who showed strong interest and I didn't pursue them out of respect for that relationship later come back into my life in some way. They do "make it easy", but I've never pursued anything with any of them. Likely just because at that point I had moved on or viewed them in a different light. I currently have a girl who was taken who recently split with her bf and is now suddenly hitting me up. Not interested in a rebound or hookup since i'd see this girl very often as is and don't feel like dealing with that baggage

 

[jaymbrs]

I partially agree with this. More often than not, I feel that if a woman ever tells you she has a boyfriend you are just better off moving on. Even if she was interested, there's no real reason to actively pursue a woman that is in a relationship. We have to factor in some context though, if this is some random woman you crossed paths with I'd say it's safe to say she just isn't interested. If this is someone you have at least some capacity to see again she'll make it easy for you down the road. Just saying, I don't think it's safe to pursue women that are taken and have them monkey branch over, the guy could break a gasket and freak out over it.

I used to not care at all. Nowadays I feel like a scumbag if I’m trying to take someone’s girl from him.

 

[sangheilios]

I agree. I've been a girlfriend stealer in the past and it only lead to more and more problems. There was always a genuine lack of trust and it just isn't worth it. If it is just a hookup you're after and you'll never see her again? Up to you and where your moral compass lies... That and I've had whacko ex's try to start **** with me. Lesson learned.

I've had girls that were in relationships who showed strong interest and I didn't pursue them out of respect for that relationship later come back into my life in some way. They do "make it easy", but I've never pursued anything with any of them. Likely just because at that point I had moved on or viewed them in a different light. I currently have a girl who was taken who recently split with her bf and is now suddenly hitting me up. Not interested in a rebound or hookup since i'd see this girl very often as is and don't feel like dealing with that baggage

In my opinion, if a woman is in a relationship and behaving that way with another man she has already checked out. The bf might blame the guy she has been entertaining, but the reality was their relationship was already over with and he just happened to be the other guy at that given space of time. She would have behaved the same way with any other man who by chance crossed paths with her and they both had at least some degree of mutual interest. However, a lot of men don't see it this way and they blame the guy for "stealing" his girl lol when he should just be mad at her or even himself. When I look at other people's relationships that involved stuff like this it's actually kind of obvious when one party has lost interest and is "quiet quitting". Ideally people can just have a proper discussion and allow one another to move on but that's often not how it works.

With all of this said, I'd definitely be wary of actually dating a woman who monkey branched from a bf over to me. As I mentioned above, if she acts like that with another man whilst in a relationship what is to say she won't do that again? A lot of guys might think they are special but chances are this isn't the case. You should also consider that there may even be something wrong with this woman where literally nothing is ever good enough or she is just never satisfied with men, who knows.

 

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@sangheilios

My comment was in regard to the survey data.

 

[MatureDJ]

No, it's simply an easy and safe means of rejecting a man. If a woman says she has a boyfriend she has one OR is saying this as a rejection, overall it means she isn't interested in pursuing anything further. However, there are exceptions to this, she may actually have a boyfriend BUT be open to going out with you, you just need to be aware, or she is just attention whoring. Either way, if you ever hear these words you are just better off moving on, save yourself the time and drama. Years ago I've had a few women say this to me but then go OUT of their way to interact with me, long story short nothing positive came from any of those scenarios.

I've had a few gals that were the aggressor in the conversation, and they would pull the "I have a boyfriend" line.

 

[needimprovement250]

Stupid article. Porn has nothing to do with men not wantin a relationship. What dumbass would think that porn and real relationships are even comparable lol.

And to think that men are so shallow that they would replace relationships with porn is the retardedness that is breitbart and insecure women who think men would be giving them even more attention were it not for porn, as if young men arent wanting relationships or sex.

I don’t think that porn makes men not want a relationship, but it can have a negative effect a man’s sex drive and his motivation to find real women to have sex with, I know that from experience. When you’re getting off to porn multiple times a day every day, your sex drive gets pretty low and you really don’t have the motivation to put yourself out there and take any risks in order to find a sex partner. It can also cause you to become psychologically conditioned to only be able to become aroused by and get off to porn, which can cause erectile issues with real sex. Also something that has happened to me in the past, so porn can be very addictive and have real negative consequences on a man, but it doesn’t remove your desire for a relationship as I still desire one even with the other problems porn has caused me.

Also, Brietbart is just the source I first saw this report from. Several other media outlets from across the political spectrum have now covered this and Pew Research was actually the group who gathered the data and released these findings to the public

 

[MatureDJ]

No attractive woman is single. I can’t count the times I’ve had a woman monkey branch to me.

Oh, they are single, but only for a short time window. It's OVER for ShortTimeWindowCels.

 

[MatureDJ]

Those things improve your life. Explain to me how modern women improve your life?lol

Uh ... poon?

 

[MatureDJ]

This is simply how the animal kingdom works. The leader of the tribe/pack/group gets access to all the top females and the other males get the table scraps.

Humans may be more intellectually advance but at the end of the day we are still animals.

It's OVER for TableScrapsCels.

 

[MatureDJ]

Yeah I can see that now. But I did not expect the number to be that high, that’s just 2 points away from a supermajority, which is 65%. It shows that there’s a supply inequality when it comes to young singles since this report showed that only 34% of young women are single and looking for a partner, with 50% of young men in the same situation. That means that there’s 16% more single men than women, which makes dating even more competitive for men and probably inflates women’s standards even higher. While it is good to know that I’m definitely not alone when it comes to being in this situation, this is a real problem that I feel like society is just looking the other way at. As time goes on, I can totally see this creating more incels and MGTOW’s

A MGTOW is an Incel in denial.

 

[MatureDJ]

Hilariously I've been thinking about getting a girl so I can at least have more open chances in the group, along with getting invited to things. Mostly for networking and a little social circle gaming. Sometimes you gotta play the game.

So you're not interested in getting a girl for the poon?

 

[MatureDJ]

I'm having a similar issue. I'm one of the hottest guys in my circle but I don't have a gf at least as far as they are concerned.

Here's a good video about navigating a social circle to get women:

 

[kavi]

I don’t think that porn makes men not want a relationship, but it can have a negative effect a man’s sex drive and his motivation to find real women to have sex with, I know that from experience. When you’re getting off to porn multiple times a day every day, your sex drive gets pretty low and you really don’t have the motivation to put yourself out there and take any risks in order to find a sex partner. It can also cause you to become psychologically conditioned to only be able to become aroused by and get off to porn, which can cause erectile issues with real sex. Also something that has happened to me in the past, so porn can be very addictive and have real negative consequences on a man, but it doesn’t remove your desire for a relationship as I still desire one even with the other problems porn has caused me.

Also, Brietbart is just the source I first saw this report from. Several other media outlets from across the political spectrum have now covered this and Pew Research was actually the group who gathered the data and released these findings to the public

Yeah I agree porn is extremely unhealthy esp the more hardcore it gets. Getting off porn for me meant looking at just naked women and moving away from looking at sex acts. Something very depraved about getting off on some guy ****ing a woman.

 

[patb]

A MGTOW is an Incel in denial.

Maybe so. But a pua is a simp in denial.

 

[patb]

I see these stats spouted all the time by even people I like to follow. I just don't get the point?
The market is the market and you have to hunt were you live regardless. Or move

The point is to realize that one isn’t alone in one’s struggles, that you aren’t crazy for thinking the market is rigged, and (hopefully) to get dispossessed young to turn against it all.

 

[corrector]

Getting off porn for me meant looking at just naked women and moving away from looking at sex acts.

Even semi-naked women/bikini if they are escort pics are extremely triggering because when they advertise a price and a service then your imagination goes hay-wire (especially if you start texting them for more details and they are replying to you like you are a potential client). You could have a picture of just a face on a fully clothed lady, but if it's next to an escort ad that implies she sells throating then even that face is triggering. Even Muslim women with hijabs on are triggering because you can be aroused by a woman's face alone. Honestly, it's hopeless. This week, I experience strong conviction in my conscious against looking at such women and their services, where they work from, because you are still lusting. The lusting in and of itself makes me feel bad.

I might rarely look at hardcore, and if I do, I'm usingly looking at thumbnails but don't actually play any videos because it seems gross, especialy with hd-playback, and it's just not something I feel naturally interested in. If it was just hardcore, then for me, porn would have been dead sometime in the 00s decade. If it wasn't for high-speed internet technology, then for me, porn would have been dead in the 90s decade. It's just escort pics that is holding me back with this.

 

[SW15]

Explain to me how modern women improve your life?

Uh ... poon?

Poon is the reason. Poon is important. I'm not the only one who thinks that. The importance of poon is fundamental to human psychology. Psychology students learn Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs in the first week of intro level Psychology classes. Poon is a basic physiological need that is on the same level as food, shelter, water, urination, and defecation. If you cannot fulfill your physiological needs, you cannot focus on your higher level needs.

Without poon, men will have psychological problems.

A MGTOW is an Incel in denial.

Incels are men who want sex who are unable to get sex. That's going to cause psychological problems, according to Maslow's model. Incels are generally not mentally healthy.

MGTOWs are often incels. Most men are MGTOW's due to rejection from the dating market. Most single women don't care when MGTOW's stop actively trying to date. These now MGTOWs were invisible to women when they were on the market. MGTOW has zero impact on women.

Some MGTOWs manage to get laid by directly paying for sex. Men who get laid by paying for it are not incel because they are having sex.

There is a group of men who go MGTOW after a bad divorce. A lot of those men are 35-50 years old, and it's only temporary MGTOW. It's somewhere between 1-3 years of MGTOW before realizing that they need poon. That's when they start conventionally dating again.

 

[patb]

Good luck with that. This isn't going to change without laws changing.

Well if you need others for your to feel better about the things you don't have control over its going to be a long road.

The laws aren't going to change as long as young men keep doing what they're told.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Something very depraved about getting off on some guy ****ing a woman.

I am usually only into POV porn. This way it's somewhat of a simulation where I'm the one doing it, and not another guy. Same with chaturate.

If guys that are heavily using porn find it difficult to maintain an erection DURING sex, then they should consider whether their grip is ruining sensitivity. No pusssy is as tight as my grip....