Benefits of a Long Term Relationship with ONE woman

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In my opinion, everything society and politicians tell you to do is for THEIR benefit, not for a man’s benefit. Everything in society is designed for a man to fail and take away his power.

Having said that, for men, if there is no possibility of sex, or if the woman is the not attractive, a man wouldn’t spend his time and money on her. And since women get older and uglier with the passage of time, why would a man commit to a woman?

So other than having ”having her to bring me chicken soup when I’m sick” or “having someone to talk to after work”, can someone list tangible benefits of a long term relationship with ONE woman?
 

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I find it hard to understand how you fail to see any value beyond sex and eyecandy, both of which you can get without any sort of commitment anyways.

Anyways, I most enjoy the intimacy, it's like a best friend, but even closer. There's also the financial benefit, easier to afford a house and a bunch of other nice things with 2 incomes. Kids, I'd like to pass on a piece of myself (already have) and I prefer them to have 2 parents in a healthy relationship, anything else is just irresponsible.

All of that assumes the woman is sane, functioning, stable and enjoyable to spend time with. This seems to be the biggest challenge and will continue to be a challenge when the top 2 priorities of a guy is 1. She fvcks me and 2. She looks pretty while being in denial about her useless personal qualities.

If you can't see the value of this type of intimacy or it doesn't appeal to you, then you're probably better off continuing to think you're somehow defeating "society" by staying single, no shame in that.

Just to be clear, I wasn't pushed into this by societal expectations, politicans, friends or parents. I chose it, I really enjoy it and I don't spend a second regretting it. That said, I'd rather live my entire life than to commit to an inadequate woman, with emphasis on her personality.

If you're sinking money into a woman and you don't even enjoy the time you put into being with her, then you're doing the wrong woman. That's not how it should be, she should add to your life, not subtract from it. If she doesn't she's simply not worth it.
 

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I find it hard to understand how you fail to see any value beyond sex and eyecandy, both of which you can get without any sort of commitment anyways.

Anyways, I most enjoy the intimacy, it's like a best friend, but even closer. There's also the financial benefit, easier to afford a house and a bunch of other nice things with 2 incomes. Kids, I'd like to pass on a piece of myself (already have) and I prefer them to have 2 parents in a healthy relationship, anything else is just irresponsible.

All of that assumes the woman is sane, functioning, stable and enjoyable to spend time with. This seems to be the biggest challenge and will continue to be a challenge when the top 2 priorities of a guy is 1. She fvcks me and 2. She looks pretty while being in denial about her useless personal qualities.

If you can't see the value of this type of intimacy or it doesn't appeal to you, then you're probably better off continuing to think you're somehow defeating "society" by staying single, no shame in that.

Just to be clear, I wasn't pushed into this by societal expectations, politicans, friends or parents. I chose it, I really enjoy it and I don't spend a second regretting it. That said, I'd rather live my entire life than to commit to an inadequate woman, with emphasis on her personality.

If you're sinking money into a woman and you don't even enjoy the time you put into being with her, then you're doing the wrong woman. That's not how it should be, she should add to your life, not subtract from it. If she doesn't she's simply not worth it.
Do you put personality before looks when it comes to selecting a woman?
 

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I wasn't pushed into this by societal expectations, politicans, friends or parents.
Few people are willing to admit or even conscious of these influences' power over them.
 

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Do you put personality before looks when it comes to selecting a woman?
For the long term? Absolutely, because the looks will fade anyways. Now that doesn't mean I'll settle for a land whale or something, but obesity is usually rooted in personality flaws that would be a deal breaker anyways. Other very physically unattractive women also tend to have a bunch of personality issues, this is an effect of giving a fvck what society thinks of them, but I can't be with someone with these issues anyways and it's not my mission to fix them, only they can do that. So there is a natural minimum of looks where their personality isn't fvcked by society and their own insecurities, I'll settle for cute. We all know the super hot are crazies because of personality issues in the other direction, they're not pleasant to spend time with and their looks just can't outweigh the balanced cute girl for me at least.

Few people are willing to admit or even conscious of these influences' power over them.
Maybe so, but even if this did pull my strings I'm happy with the results, so I don't care. All I care about is living the life I enjoy the most, I follow that internal direction regardless of who else is for or against.

Come to think of it, the guy who "goes against society" is just as much affected by society as the follower. I am neither, what you or anyone thinks is not a criteria for my personal life decisions, especially not the big decisions. Sometimes I'll be mistaken as a blind follower, I can live with that, I don't care about those opinions. Sometimes people who "follow society" has an issue with some of my life decisions, I can live with that too, I don't care about those opinions either. I care about what works for me and I'd tell anyone to do the same, whatever that may be for them. Including "what society thinks" as a part of the decision making process whether the goal is to follow or go against is a horrible idea with a high risk of misery.
 
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With a one night stand, you finish, get annoyed at her, and then kick her out after a minute. With a LTR, you talk for 30 minutes until you realize you have better sh*t to do than make a pusssy purr — then you kick her out. With a marriage, you can never kick her out, even while she gets more and more b*tchy — and if you do kick her out, you get financially raped.

Choose wisely. I prefer LTRs.
 

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I find it hard to understand how you fail to see any value beyond sex and eyecandy, both of which you can get without any sort of commitment anyways.

Anyways, I most enjoy the intimacy, it's like a best friend, but even closer. There's also the financial benefit, easier to afford a house and a bunch of other nice things with 2 incomes.
Agree, Two incomes can be a benefit,

Kids, I'd like to pass on a piece of myself (already have) and I prefer them to have 2 parents in a healthy relationship, anything else is just irresponsible.
Disagree. Not tangible.

All of that assumes the woman is sane, functioning, stable and enjoyable to spend time with. This seems to be the biggest challenge and will continue to be a challenge when the top 2 priorities of a guy is 1. She fvcks me and 2. She looks pretty while being in denial about her useless personal qualities.

If you can't see the value of this type of intimacy or it doesn't appeal to you, then you're probably better off continuing to think you're somehow defeating "society" by staying single, no shame in that.
No benefit listed here.

Just to be clear, I wasn't pushed into this by societal expectations, politicans, friends or parents. I chose it, I really enjoy it and I don't spend a second regretting it. That said, I'd rather live my entire life than to commit to an inadequate woman, with emphasis on her personality.

If you're sinking money into a woman and you don't even enjoy the time you put into being with her, then you're doing the wrong woman. That's not how it should be, she should add to your life, not subtract from it. If she doesn't she's simply not worth it.
OK.

I can list one. Sex without having to make the effort of approaching, attracting, and seducing new women. It does take a lot of effort to get new pusssy.
I would consider that laziness. To stick with something that depreciates because it’s too ”hard” to get something else, that’s not a benefit. That’s sunken cost fallacy. And it’s not that hard to get a new woman, especially if the woman is over 30.

I don’t see intimacy and closeness as a benefit, I see experiencing younger hotter sexier women as a benefit. Everyone here seems to want a long term relationship, but men seem to forget woman are on the clock, they expire. Yes, the women is young and sexy at 24, but 15 years later, when she is menopausal and losing her looks, is a man going to love the “intimacy“ and “closeness” with her. I doubt it.

I’m surprised so many men on Sosuave value LTR. I’m not Brad Pitt by any means (by the way, he is 59 and getting very serious with his new gf, 29) but I like going out with different women. Intimacy and closeness may be fun, but I keep thinking when the woman turns 45 and becomes menopausal, how fun is it.
 

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whilst you are young 20 -35 it makes very very little sense to settle with 1 woman

Unless of course you meet one that can literally tick every single box on your physical and emotional spectrum but its unlikely because in your 20's you still don't really know who you are or what it is you want

I see a lot of people race into relationships in their 20's ( i was one of them ) but its strange because these years are your "mistake years" meaning you can take risks and make fvck ups and still recover from them because you are young

But people seem to do it arse backwards they waste their "mistake years" being in relationships that don't really fulfil them and then have a mid life crisis in their late 30's - early 40's and decide to take the gamble then and get a divorce

But at that age it's too late , you will be out of peak physical appearance , you will be way behind on current social and dating etiquette society expects you to have your **** together by 40

To me it makes far more sense to experiment with relationships in your 20's and early 30's get everything out of your system and then settle.

If you look at the state of modern society, the divorce rate and the amount of failed relationships that began in their 20's

The proof is really in the pudding
 

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I don’t see intimacy and closeness as a benefit, I see experiencing younger hotter sexier women as a benefit. Everyone here seems to want a long term relationship, but men seem to forget woman are on the clock, they expire. Yes, the women is young and sexy at 24, but 15 years later, when she is menopausal and losing her looks, is a man going to love the “intimacy“ and “closeness” with her. I doubt it.

I’m surprised so many men on Sosuave value LTR. I’m not Brad Pitt by any means (by the way, he is 59 and getting very serious with his new gf, 29) but I like going out with different women. Intimacy and closeness may be fun, but I keep thinking when the woman turns 45 and becomes menopausal, how fun is it.
Without intimacy and closeness might as well masturbate to p0rn or see an escort. OK, so you saw an escort and unloaded twice. Now what? There's nothing constructive in that activity, whereas when you make love and unload twice within an LTR, it's like adding two more bricks to build a great palace. I see it as eating junk food that doesn't nourish you and most probably poisons you vs eating good tasting wholesome food that builds and regenerates your body.

Regarding the looks, there's the 1. physical appearance: as you age, you perception changes. For instance if I now think Elizabeth Hurley looks good even though she's 19 yrs older than me, I can only imagine how hot I would find her if I was her age (57) or 70yrs old.
2. woman's overall quality: the new girlfriend of Brad Pitt might have smoother skin than a 45yrs old woman who's been your wife for 15yrs, but regarding quality she's an unknown, most probably negative value (married in 2019, divorced 3 yrs later, damaged goods).
 

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I can list one. Sex without having to make the effort of approaching, attracting, and seducing new women. It does take a lot of effort to get new pusssy.
I would consider that laziness. To stick with something that depreciates because it’s too ”hard” to get something else, that’s not a benefit. That’s sunken cost fallacy.
I don't consider finding new women to be laziness. There is a saying in business that "it is easier to keep an existing customer than get a new customer". I think that saying applies to attraction-seduction as well.

Check out some of the threads below for the efforts it takes to get laid. I would not consider @nicksaiz65 or @Jesse Pinkman to be lazy.


In this post, @nicksaiz65 indicated in May 2020 that he had estimated he had approached 200 women lifetime in order to get 7 different sexual partners. 7/200 = 3.5%. Having sex with 3.5% of total approaches is a fairly typical outcome.

A lot of men don't have the time or desire to approach 200 women, which is why you see men swiping through thousands on women on the Big 3 swipe apps in most of the larger USA cities. Let's compare a daygamer to an app swiper. A daygamer might go out to an area with decent foot traffic on a Saturday afternoon for 2 hours. If he's lucky, he gets in 5 approaches. He might arrange 1 date from that, but I've had 2 hour daygame sessions where I didn't arrange any dates. An app swiper could swipe through 500-600 women in that same 2 hour time block on a Saturday afternoon, all without having to leave his home, get dressed, and look presentable. Both take effort and the results aren't all that great for most men outside the Top 10-20% in SMV.


@Jesse Pinkman demonstrates he does a lot of approaches in his field reports thread too.

And it’s not that hard to get a new woman, especially if the woman is over 30.
That's not true. Women 30+ tend to have higher standards. Despite their lessening looks, they tend to require more from men close to their own age in order to give them sex. They tend to drop those requirements if you're 10+ years younger than them and they don't see relationship potential. A decent looking 22 year old will not encounter that much difficult in having sex with a 35 year old, but a 37 year old might have to deal with more shiit testing.




I don’t see intimacy and closeness as a benefit, I see experiencing younger hotter sexier women as a benefit. Everyone here seems to want a long term relationship, but men seem to forget woman are on the clock, they expire. Yes, the women is young and sexy at 24, but 15 years later, when she is menopausal and losing her looks, is a man going to love the “intimacy“ and “closeness” with her. I doubt it.

I’m surprised so many men on Sosuave value LTR. Intimacy and closeness may be fun, but I keep thinking when the woman turns 45 and becomes menopausal, how fun is it.
Most men tend to value some sort of pair bonding experience. This gets more pronounced in men after age 35, but even some younger men experience this. In my local area social circle, the men I know started their current LTRs by their late 20s, and mostly by 26.

You're correct that a lot of women lose their looks as they age. I remember seeing one of my friends' then-girlfriend (now wife) when she was 27 at a pool party and seeing how she had dropped off in looks at 27 as compared to when I first met her at 23. I can think of an instance where I had sex for the first time with a mid-30s woman. She wasn't fat but she had a plain-ish body. It was more difficult to get turned on. I also have had sex with some women in their 30s who had very good bodies. Yes, there were some signs of aging but they had strong lifestyles to counter effects of aging and I was easily turned on.

While right now in my late 30s, I find women in their 30s/40s attractive, I wonder how I'll feel when I'm 50-55 about women 50-55. Even when in my 20s, I found some women around 35-45 attractive. I've never found women 50+ attractive. Yes, there are examples like Liz Hurley (57 right now) and Denise Austin (66 right now) who are attractive, but they are some rare that it isn't even worth mentioning. I can see why a 55 year old man would desire a 35-40 year old woman. While a 35-40 year old woman is far less attractive than a 25 year old, a 15-20 year age gap is an impressive pull for a 55 year old man.
 

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I can list one. Sex without having to make the effort of approaching, attracting, and seducing new women. It does take a lot of effort to get new pusssy.
Real talk.
not only to get the new puzzy but to keep it on tap for the first 3 months without drama.
You have to be the slickest top gun option she gots. At any given moment she can bust a cold pull back if an ex or whatever comes back in the picture. You wont even know what hit you
 
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Familiarity and comfort
yeah i guess thats why some fvck buddies/plates from the past pop up back in the radar because they feel more comfortable fvcking someone familiar. They feel more comfortable and less slvtty that way. Familiarity.
 
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What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Real talk.
not only to get the new puzzy but to keep it on tap for the first 3 months without drama.
You have to be the slickest top gun option she gots. At any given moment she can bust a cold pull back if an ex or whatever comes back in the picture. You wont even know what hit you
That's accurate.

She's less likely to pull that move after 3 months but it's still possible.

It is easier to retain pusssy than get new pusssy.
 

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That's accurate.

She's less likely to pull that move after 3 months but it's still possible.

It is easier to retain pusssy than get new pusssy.
in my line of work its always easier to keep an existing customer for repeat business. New customers tend to be a tad bit flakey/dodgy in these tryin times.
 
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