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This is why it is important to have really good sex when having sex with a new partner for the first time. A woman won't want to date a man if their first instance of sex isn't high quality. Women operate on "all the feelz" and a mediocre to subpar instance of sex isn't going to give them "all the feelz".
There have been times when I could have gotten a first date lay or same night lay from a bar but knew the sex wouldn't have been good due to some combination of alcohol intoxication and exhaustion. As a result, I passed.
Quality of sex doesn't matter as much to guys who are looking to bump up their notch counts. I'm more longer term relationship focused so having sex once with multiple women isn't as appealing as having sex multiple times with one woman.
There is a reason why a lot of same night lays at the bar don't result in 2nd instances of sex. I think it has to do with possible physical complications from alcohol and late night exhaustion and the lack of an emotional connection prior to sex.
Wheat Waffles covered this from 2:11 - 3:07 in the video below. I am linking at the 2:11 mark.
It would have been interesting to know more about the rest of the interaction and the smaller shiit tests earlier in it.
Most men who are 30+ have had some sort of experience with children at some point prior to then. A man can cite experiences with nieces and nephews by his 30s in most cases. Even if he doesn't have experience with nieces and nephews, he could have mentioned experience with much younger siblings or cousins that he had as a teen or in his early 20s. He could probably cite experiences with a friend's child(ren) or even have had some babysitting experience. He could have mentioned a childless ex-girlfriend's nieces or nephews. There's always some sort of experience to draw upon there. Thinking back on things, I recall an interaction I had in a bar when I was 21 and there was a 23 year old single mom I approached that night. I could have mentioned babysitting experience that I had even then. In that approach, I auto-ejected because I didn't know women as well. Auto-ejecting from an interaction with a single mom isn't a bad thing.
By one's 30s, I think it should be assumed that there will be single mom interactions. It should be assumed that a man can pre-emptively avoid a shiit test by acknowledging she's a single mom and mentioning experiences with children as a childless guy. This can enable sex to happen, for those childless men interested in "hit it and quit it" with a single mom. Some childless men are interested in that, and that can expand notch options in one's 30s/40s.
The other play for a childless man when doing that is to get her interested by mentioning experience with children, then walk away. That's much better for the ego than getting rejected by a single mom.
This is so true. The "one date, no sex, no second date" interactions I have had where I wanted more from the interaction but the woman didn't bothered me far more than the ones where I wanted nothing to do with the woman as a result of the first date.
This is true. A lot of childless men have no interest in relationships with single moms. We have a good thread about that.
What is Your Stance on Getting into Committed Relationships with Single Moms?
As men, we are supposed to be the gatekeeper to committed relationships. Single moms are a contentious topic in the Manosphere. I want to focus this discussion upon committed relationships and not casual sex/plating arrangements. To me, that is a different topic. Men age 30+ are often...
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There are childless men who will have sex with single moms, either for one night or on some sort of ongoing basis as a plate, often for less than 12 months. While this is possible to do, it's often aggravating to do for a childless man because you're planning around sex around her time consuming parenting duties. If a childless man is having sex with a single mom in a casual sex arrangement, it's best to have at least one other childless woman in the rotation in a plating situation. A lot of childless men get frustrated when their only plate is a single mom.
Single fathers are better equipped to deal with single mothers, both in a committed relationship and in casual sex. It is always annoying to deal with planning sex around a woman's time obligations with parenting.
Yes, I agree. Have you managed to get pre-vetted via a circle of friends? How have you gotten that circle? Few relocations over the course of your life.
I've never had a circle of friends capable of introducing me to women, even though I'm now in my late 30s and have been in the same city 10+ years. I didn't have deep social ties due to a numerous relocations prior to getting to my current city. In the past, in my primary local area social circle comprised of other adult transplants to the area (an overall weaker circle), there were some instances of women in the circle and multiple men in the circle competing for them. The competitions were intense. Also, it's worth mentioning that these were intense competitions for women who turned out to have significant flaws by my subjective judgment. One woman that multiple men, including myself, competed for turned out to be rather prudish and would make men wait months for sex.
Iron Rule of Tomassi #3
Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.
The guy in my social circle who won a competition for a woman who made him wait months for sex might not have actually won, though he did eventually commit to a relationship with her and marry her. He's blue pill. So many men in my social circle are blue pill. When you take the red pill or black pill, you start to see how your social circle mates fall for a lot of blue pill traps.
Pregnancy Announcements Everywhere! Life When Your Blue Pill Social Circle Starts Having Babies
Yesterday, I was on my Instagram and saw a pregnancy announcement from an acquaintance's wife in my social circle. I don't particularly like her. I find it annoying to be around her the 1-2 times a year I ever randomly see her in person. Right now, there are 3 women from my local area social...
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