Is the juice worth the squeeze?!

[alvinkels]

What's the consequence you are afraid off? That you wont get her " warm WhatsApp messages " anymore? I am 99% sure that 99% of men in these situations spend 99% of the time with her while they should and could be doing other shyte. Chores, gym making money, homies ,family hobbies ,OFCOURSE pulling other more cooperative women. Women will punish you for being a bytch, and be glad they do. This is how you learn.

Little in between how to get out of the friendzone tip: tell her you are suddenly busy with manly shyte that improves your life. " oh was busy painting my house/fixing my car . Oh was having a drink with xxx. Oh was at a party with my homie." Ect ect. Translation = I don't have time for this highschool shyte anymore bytch!

If anything, you walking away might actually increase your chance to feck her one day. She will either drop you like a bag of poop, or get clingy and beg for your validation. If it's the first, you know what your position was all along. If it's the latter, you must report back and make nothing but good moves to make her drop those panties.

Later is what I want but I don't hug out with very often most the time like 80% she reaches out I only reach if we have something to do eg like the four months vacation I never reached she reached out like twice for something in her own interest and then we reopen I didn't even reach out she did. T

OP,

just remember, she probably has other guys that she does this with several actually. The consequence of you cutting her off is that you’ll get your balls back and take pride in not being one of those guys that she uses.

Stay strong brother.

Thanks Man I have already started... I know you most people won't like what I am about so say but I set out test something so i decided to confront her and she denied no seeing anyone i told about what i saw and she said if had seen she has been doing with Male friends then I would die ( meaning my heart will break more). It means this is who she is flirting around and she sees nothing wrong with it. I can't even be friends with a girl like that. If she was my sister I will refute her instantly. She cried as usual; women and taken offense that I accused her.. I played along and apologized because I have already made up mind not deal with her again so whatever she was doing all talks and throwbacks didn't even move me

 

[alvinkels]

She is a classic attention hor.

She will hook up with you if she thinks its the only way to keep you around.

The way to play it is, just say you had such bad blue balls last time chilling with her that you were in some pain for days and say you need to get to third base with her so you can focus better.

Thanks My brother

 

[alvinkels]

She is a classic attention hor.

She will hook up with you if she thinks its the only way to keep you around.

The way to play it is, just say you had such bad blue balls last time chilling with her that you were in some pain for days and say you need to get to third base with her so you can focus better.

Well she literally said so that she is like that with her Male friends and it doesn't mean anything and that if I had seen other chats then would have "died". I remember rebuking my younger sister on this kind of things about playing with men feelings and to be honest and sincere with them because that's what men wants and she every on her Birthday receiving showers of gifts from guys with no strings attached because she was just honest with them.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I’ve been here. It’s a truly awful feeling to be so hung up on the pleasant feelings of an ongoing great conversation from an attractive woman who seems like she’s got it together. You have to realize that the key to breaking into determining the level of interest is by forcing action from her. Putting a date out on the calendar and having her commit. She either commits, counteroffers a date or she doesn’t commit. The first one is best since it implicitly creates space in her time for you without question. The second works but you weren’t the priority, but there could be a legitimate reason (don’t ask, she may offer), and the third is a good answer too because now you know.

The problem here OP is that you already know. So by talking to her, all you’re doing is creating a deeper bond in yourself to her that she is not reciprocating and the stress it’ll create will push into other facets of your life. I’m telling you from personal experience.

There are plenty of other ways to get good companionship and advice; friends, therapists, and then one day you’ll feel so good in your own skin you won’t look to your next woman to fill that role, because you’ll want it to be fun

In the meantime, if you don’t drop her this minute, you’re your own fault. If she texts you, just don’t answer. She doesn’t deserve any explanation no matter what kind of nonsensical rationale you come up with.

In summary, have some self esteem, asap. You’re better than this. You’re worth more. It’s over dude, HER LOSS.

 

[alvinkels]

I’ve been here. It’s a truly awful feeling to be so hung up on the pleasant feelings of an ongoing great conversation from an attractive woman who seems like she’s got it together. You have to realize that the key to breaking into determining the level of interest is by forcing action from her. Putting a date out on the calendar and having her commit. She either commits, counteroffers a date or she doesn’t commit. The first one is best since it implicitly creates space in her time for you without question. The second works but you weren’t the priority, but there could be a legitimate reason (don’t ask, she may offer), and the third is a good answer too because now you know.

The problem here OP is that you already know. So by talking to her, all you’re doing is creating a deeper bond in yourself to her that she is not reciprocating and the stress it’ll create will push into other facets of your life. I’m telling you from personal experience.

There are plenty of other ways to get good companionship and advice; friends, therapists, and then one day you’ll feel so good in your own skin you won’t look to your next woman to fill that role, because you’ll want it to be fun

In the meantime, if you don’t drop her this minute, you’re your own fault. If she texts you, just don’t answer. She doesn’t deserve any explanation no matter what kind of nonsensical rationale you come up with.

In summary, have some self esteem, asap. You’re better than this. You’re worth more. It’s over dude, HER LOSS.

She brought dinner from her department of which I had another program that weekend later I told her it was cancelled; which was a lie because i wanted to test her commitment to her it. A day to the day I got outfits ready I called her and she said she wasn't sure i will go so she didn't get ticket for me so I asked why didn't she ask me when she was going to get the ticket (which was the right to do) but she wasn't sure. She went either ways luckily for me I had other invitations from other girls so it was like: NEXT! it was different department though. But I feel she stood up because I have seen reading "why men love bitches"... I have not read it myself but I know some of its contents ... guessed she used it on me anyway. Lol. But either ways there more offers on the table.