36 hot and childless is a massive red flagOP you need to screen this woman a little better
She is 36 & childless how long exactly has she been on the shelf ? which then leads to the next next question
WHY is she still on the shelf despite being as you claim physically attractive
This is an issue most women go through as they leave their glory years behind 18-25 , they have 7-8 years of men bending over backwards to get them into bed they don't really need to be " interesting" or conversational its all very surface level
they just need to look pretty
The problems arise when they reach their early 30's and are still single , men are no longer that dumbstruck by their appearance and its a very difficult & bitter pill for them to swallow
All of a sudden men are taking them out on dates and they have little to converse about because they've never really learned how to have a deep conversation
in all honesty most women's lives In this age range are very very boring
I'm not judging. I'm in the same boat haha36 hot and childless is a massive red flag
Well as a hot chick she has more options, so maybe she has been too picky.I'm not judging. I'm in the same boat haha
Or she is undateable / incompatibleWell as a hot chick she has more options, so maybe she has been too picky.
You aren't a woman. It isn't your biological instinct to have children the same way it is for a woman.I'm not judging. I'm in the same boat haha
I dont get yall. So 36 ugly and multiple kids is the better option?36 hot and childless is a massive red flag
There's more to this story. My guess is that op went in way too friendly. 15 years is such a long time, there should be plenty of shyte to talk about.The awkward silences may be an indicator of low interest on her part, because she's not making an effort to carry the conversation.
In any case, I'd focus more on body language and cooperation/lack thereof than anything she says.
Obviously not, but it's a clear signal she either is a super career focused woman, a femi-nazi, or she can't maintain relationships for very long. None of which are good in terms of potential other than for a FWB.I dont get yall. So 36 ugly and multiple kids is the better option?
I swear dudes in the "manosphere " are never satisfied.
There's more to this story. My guess is that op went in way too friendly. 15 years is such a long time, there should be plenty of shyte to talk about.
Like I said yesterday, silence isn't that big of an issue. A woman showing up twice?...idk what more do you want man , you just gotta split that poosy apart and that's it.
I get that,but it's a complete contradiction from the other common advice to avoid single mothers. So what , we just throw away women older than 35? Because she's either a career feminazi or a Alpha widowed baby machine.Obviously not, but it's a clear signal she either is a super career focused woman, a femi-nazi, or she can't maintain relationships for very long. None of which are good in terms of potential other than for a FWB.
Newsflash...if you are trying to date women in the mid 30s or later and they don't have kids, they are a walking red flag with very few exceptions. You may say that's your "best option" but you are simply trading one "problem" for another.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
To many keyboard-commandos here that havent "been there, done that".I dont get yall. So 36 ugly and multiple kids is the better option?
I swear dudes in the "manosphere " are never satisfied.
When "everyone" says something, in pretty much any area of life, you should probably think about doing the opposite.I get that,but it's a complete contradiction from the other common advice to avoid single mothers. So what , we just throw away women older than 35? Because she's either a career feminazi or a Alpha widowed baby machine.
Imo it's too black and white. Our new archetype named ROMAN will be even more limited if he would follow this advice. Yes, I know most guys here fancy women younger than 27, but is it realistic?
A 35 y.o woman without kids, who focused on her career is fine with me. But lately I view every relationship with a woman as a FWB type of thing. My expectations are say lower , and that gives me less headaches.
If we can pull younger, yes. Unless we are trying to build a rotation of plates: She can be just another plate in the rotation, no problem.So what , we just throw away women older than 35?
My thoughts exactly. Was thinking maybe I shouldn't have even posted about this.I get that,but it's a complete contradiction from the other common advice to avoid single mothers. So what , we just throw away women older than 35? Because she's either a career feminazi or a Alpha widowed baby machine.
Imo it's too black and white. Our new archetype named ROMAN will be even more limited if he would follow this advice. Yes, I know most guys here fancy women younger than 27, but is it realistic?
A 35 y.o woman without kids, who focused on her career is fine with me. But lately I view every relationship with a woman as a FWB type of thing. My expectations are say lower , and that gives me less headaches.
I got more information from a friend whose GF used to be in this woman's social circle. And I swear you can't make this **** up. Well maybe you can.Obviously not, but it's a clear signal she either is a super career focused woman, a femi-nazi, or she can't maintain relationships for very long. None of which are good in terms of potential other than for a FWB.
Newsflash...if you are trying to date women in the mid 30s or later and they don't have kids, they are a walking red flag with very few exceptions. You may say that's your "best option" but you are simply trading one "problem" for another.
You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
As I was saying in the spinning plates thread, how is it beneficial to OP to spend time with this kind of person? Particularly in this case, there's the additional risk of being physically harmed by her ex or one of his men.I got more information from a friend whose GF used to be in this woman's social circle. And I swear you can't make this **** up. Well maybe you can.
This woman was dating some drug dealer for like 10 or so years but now he's locked up. She won some settlement because she supposedly got shot in a drive by. Ever since then, she's been going hard partying, traveling, hanging out with sugar baby types. I'll upload some pics shortly.
OK so sounds like on your dinner date she was bored...if you want my take on it...I got more information from a friend whose GF used to be in this woman's social circle. And I swear you can't make this **** up. Well maybe you can.
This woman was dating some drug dealer for like 10 or so years but now he's locked up. She won some settlement because she supposedly got shot in a drive by. Ever since then, she's been going hard partying, traveling, hanging out with sugar baby types. I'll upload some pics shortly.
We both were, if I'm being honest. Truth be told, she seems to lack personality. And if you see the pics I posted above, you'll probably gather that she never needed to develop one.OK so sounds like on your dinner date she was bored...if you want my take on it...
I love to "speak through images". . So what, most men on the forum would reject this woman? ( random 30+woman from Bumble). Gtfo. Most of you all would move mountains to be with such a woman.To many keyboard-commandos here that havent "been there, done that".
To many sosuave-incels waiting for their 23 y.o. virgin that ****s on 2nd date and sucks dyck like a pro.
To many Don-Juans that spread wisdom about women but havent been in a "LTR" and living under one roof for a couple of years with ONE of them.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.