New years plans?

[SW15]

Yeah I played 200-2003.

Since you played from 2000-2003, that would make you 40-41 today.

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5'10"-5'11" is a competitive height for a college level defensive back, especially a Division II - Division III defensive back.

Playing an NCAA sport can carry you with the women after your NCAA career is up (assuming 0 days of pro sports) until you're 30. I have had a friend who played a country club sport Division I and is 6'0"+. He's White and got a solid white collar job post graduation. He kept active in his 20s and kept close to his NCAA level physique.

In his 20s, he was regimented about his pickup efforts. He would get semi-intoxicated his apartment, roll to the bars and arrive around 11:30 PM-12 PM. From that point, he would spam approach everything with a rather weak pickup line, and then roll out around 1:30 AM-2 AM (2 AM is closing time) with whatever woman was most into him that night. He was only able to get away with this due to being 6'4" and having a look that bougie, cookie cutter White woman find dreamy. He went to the bars in my city where bougie, cookie cutter White women tended to congregate. He never did any non-bar approaching and only dabbled in dating websites/apps.

My ex-college athlete friend was good at bar game and his opener was a joke compared to stuff you'd get from Roosh, Mystery, or nearly any other seduction guy out there. I only knew him as a post college ex-athlete in his 20s doing pickup in bars. He had below average verbal game but a decent overall look + height. He understood his target market well as he pursued bougie/yuppie White women in bars where bougie/yuppie White women congregated. He played a country club sport. It made sense that an over 6'0" guy with a white collar job and an ex-NCAA athlete in a country club sport would appeal to bougie White women.

While my friend had good bar and one night stand game, his actual relationship game was weak. However, he could sell that relationship dream and turn it into a one night stand while intoxicated based on his height and overall All-American guy look. Bougie, cookie cutter White girls ate that up big time.

He ended up marrying a White woman with some very serious red flags due to weak actual relationship game. However, he did put up a triple digit notch count prior to doing that.

I have known some other NCAA athletes over the years, but never had the level of friendship that I've had with the NCAA athlete I detailed above.

After a man's 30th birthday, I don't perceive having an NCAA sport in his history is going to make much of a difference in terms of seduction.

The thing is I’m getting the horrible treatment from women 34+! Like women 29 and younger have been nothing but respectful even when ending things. It’s the women 34+ who like you one day and are done with you the next and flake or give some generic reason. It’s so weird.

It's quite annoying when you get lousy treatment from women 34+. Women 18-29 can get away with bad behavior since they are in their peak. Women 30+ should not be able to treat men poorly due to their declining SMV, but plenty of women 30+ do it. Men are thirstier than ever and more and more men are tolerating bad behavior, even from 30+ women. Women don't tend to make the behavioral adjustments that would go with declining SMV in a lot of cases. This is the opposite of pro athletes who have extended careers. Pro athletes in their 30s tend to adjust in order to stay viable in their sports for another few years.

 

[patb]

Yeah I played 200-2003. The thing is I’m getting the horrible treatment from women 34+! Like women 29 and younger have been nothing but respectful even when ending things. It’s the women 34+ who like you one day and are done with you the next and flake or give some generic reason. It’s so weird.

I've had a similar experience. Every time I give an older woman (27+ in my mind) a chance, she swiftly makes me regret it. Somehow, the younger and hotter ones actually behave better. There's simply no value proposition in these hags.

 

[Robert28]

I've had a similar experience. Every time I give an older woman (27+ in my mind) a chance, she swiftly makes me regret it. Somehow, the younger and hotter ones actually behave better. There's simply no value proposition in these hags.

It’s like women 34+ have no clue how to communicate like an adult. Not interested in seeing someone anymore? Cool, let them know. Don’t flake, don’t act weird for a week and make them wonder why you’re acting weird. It’s not hard. All you’re treating men to do is not care, so when you treat me like I’m disposable I’m going to treat the next girl like she’s disposable because you said it’s ok to do with me.

 

[SW15]

It’s like women 34+ have no clue how to communicate like an adult.

A woman 34+ today was born after Jan. 1, 1989.

The youngest part of this grouping might not remember too much before the onset of the internet. Women born in 1985-early 1989 even got to experience the earliest days of the internet as children, and could have had AOL Instant Messanger as pre-teens/teens. Cell phones with keyboards were introduced when these 1985-1989 women were just entering the dating market in high school. Apple's first iPhone was released in July 2007, making the oldest women from these group 22 at that time.

Women born 1980-1984 are old enough to have experienced life before the internet, which required more social skills.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I had a ONS a couple weeks ago and ever the gentleman I tried to cordially offer to stay in touch. Like a true pro this young lady mentioned that we would see each other at the bars. While I almost hugged her I do wonder if you guys think I should try and call for another round or if that was a clear signal that it’s going to be a one hitter ?

 

[patb]

I had a ONS a couple weeks ago and ever the gentleman I tried to cordially offer to stay in touch. Like a true pro this young lady mentioned that we would see each other at the bars. While I almost hugged her I do wonder if you guys think I should try and call for another round or if that was a clear signal that it’s going to be a one hitter ?

Every time I've tried to stay in touch after a bar pickup, they've disappeared. Of course if making it a "one hitter" were my idea, I'd be a terrible person.

 

[CollegeMan22]

I got a concert tonight and a new year’s house party after. Going to try to get the girl I picked up in the gym yesterday out to the concert and go from there. If not, I’ll just have fun dancing at the concert and approach some girls while I’m at it.

Update on the new year’s plans. I went the concert, but it was full of old farts so I got right outta there. I went to the house party and that was pretty fun. No one had seen me since high school, since which I had gained 30 lbs of muscle.

I hit some shots and just introduced myself to everyone. Told the guys some good game stories (this hobby really gives you good stories) and then I teased the **** out of girls. I had just finished reading “How to be the Jerk Women Love” so I upped my a$$hole game. Lots of assumptions about girls, a lot of which turn out to be right. Deflecting **** tests like a wizard.

I had two groups of girls upstairs I was gaming, and they loved it. Literally the hardest laughing I’ve ever gotten. Unfortunately the hot girl in the first group had a bf, so I couldn’t directly escalate there (but I still got her number). The hot girl in the second group I really pissed off, but she was saying **** like “wow, you have this [flirting] mastered”. A$$hole game at its finest.

Anyways, I went downstairs and talked to another group of two girls. Mary (fake names) was short and fit, and Hailey was blonde and pretty cute. More teasing, more C&F, and a lot of kino with Mary. Lots of punching her arm and putting my hand on her shoulder. I get her on the couch and put my arm around her. Now all my HS friends are eyeing me with surprise and amazement. Haha thanks game.

Mary has to go to the bathroom, so I’m chilling there on the couch with my feet up. Then randomly this girl comes up to me and says “Are you CollegeMan?” …. “Just to let you know, your pants are too tight”. LOL. She’s looking at my d1ck. Maybe she’s jealous about me having my arm around another girl. I tease her about that as she walks away.

So I get up to inquire and tease more about this comment. I tell her I’ve never had a girl compliment me like that before … this early on. She’s laughing. At one point I say she must like Starbucks because she’s white.

Then the bloody fat landwhale next to her gets super triggered. “Black people drink at Starbucks too!!!!!”. They both get super pissed at me. I stand my ground and tell them how absurd it is. When I won’t step back, they throw the stupid girl insults about “how old are you?” “your shirt is too tight”, etc etc.

I tell them that I would NEVER date such disgusting, bitchy creatures. They look at each other with their mouths open. Then the hosts (my HS friends) kick me out of the party.

Fun night!

 

[Divorced w 3]

Every time I've tried to stay in touch after a bar pickup, they've disappeared. Of course if making it a "one hitter" were my idea, I'd be a terrible person.

She and I actually spoke a week or so ago. I had an office party and offered to meet her and her friends out after. Her family and she were doing Christmas things. Nonetheless I was surprised she took the call so..whatcha think?

 

[patb]

She and I actually spoke a week or so ago. I had an office party and offered to meet her and her friends out after. Her family and she were doing Christmas things. Nonetheless I was surprised she took the call so..whatcha think?

Worth a shot, I suppose. Again, I don’t have a good history of navigating these situations.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I believe this. Many years ago, I went to this New Years' Eve party that was a complete dud. It was a private residence party and almost everyone was unattached. No one kissed at midnight. That was ridiculous.

A very unpleasant experience for an unattached man is going to New Years' Eve event (either a private or public one) and seeing couples kissing at midnight while he has no one at midnight. It's best to know who your midnight kiss will be before the night starts. If you don't know that ahead of time, there's a big chance for an unpleasant occurrence to happen. Try going in for a kiss at midnight on someone and getting rejected for that. It's quite a disappointment.





Watching sports has little benefit for a man. A typical sportsball game takes something like 2 hours, 45 minutes to 3 hours, 30 minutes.

With that block of time, you could...

1. Do something fitness oriented, which will help you get laid
2. Do an approach session, which could help you get laid
3. Do some meaningful personal development

Other people/brands benefit when you watch sports. The sports team makes money, the TV network makes money, and the advertising brands at the stadium/on TV make money. Meanwhile, you do not make money. You give your money to the sportsball team (if going to the stadium), you eat/drink more food/alcohol, and you probably aren't going to get laid from watching sports.

I know a couple in my social circle formed watching sports in a bar when both were fans of the same team. It can happen, but realize that exception proves the rule. In exception cases, realize that the woman is likely a more masculine type woman. In the case in my social circle, the woman is physically attractive but was pushing 30 when they met and the man was/is a beta male. She also has a demanding type career. They ended up getting married. I've barely interacted with the two parts of this couple, but they have had some substantial interactions with some of my friends and other acquaintances. The guy looks like a dweeb and the woman is borderline cute/hot. In terms of looks alone, she's at least 2.5 points higher than he is on a looks alone rating scale. At least 1 of the following 3 reasons applies to their relationship and would help explain why they are together.

• He is rich
• He has a big penis
• She is a hotwife who is permitted to have sex with other men

She had a "last call" type baby with him in her mid-30s in 2022 so it can be argued she settled for the beta bucks side of her hypergamy because she couldn't get a commitment from a true alpha despite her good looks. She might squeeze out one more baby before 40, but it is doubtful that she's going to enjoy the next 18-20 years with some boring, dweebish looking beta bucks guy. She will be the classic late 30s/40 something MILF.

I still respectfully disagree that watching sports is a beta male activity. Men love a competition and enjoying the sport from the sidelines can be / often is a pastime hobby of a lot of men with strong frame. You don’t have to endure the entire event , it’s not so black and white.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Then the bloody fat landwhale next to her gets super triggered. “Black people drink at Starbucks too!!!!!”. They both get super pissed at me. I stand my ground and tell them how absurd it is.

Maybe the better response instead would have been amused mastery and make her look like a socially inept karen? "Yes fat Karen..... I know black people drink at starbucks too! It's pretty racist thinking only black and white people drink at starbucks." While laughing at her.