New years plans?

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I mean I wasn’t expecting to get flaked on 30 mins before lol dating sucks these days. I’m having issues these days I used to never have in all my life.
The bolded part will happen to all of us sooner or later. Don't let it sink you down, and don't be too hard on yourself, bro.

I myself had this chick walking out in the middle of the 1st date, which too had never happened before in all my life so far, and it devastated me to some degree.
 

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Chilling at home watching Ohio State vs UGA and eating pizza with this girl I’ve been out with a couple times. Our club days are long gone, neither one of us wanted to go out. Works for me!
Watching sports is a beta male activity. Play sports, don't watch them.
 

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Watching sports is a beta male activity. Play sports, don't watch them.
I only watch soccer games, have never played a soccer match in my life, but I hit the gym at least 4 times a week, so am I a "beta male"?
 

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Watching sports is a beta male activity. Play sports, don't watch them.
He was planning to do that with his girl before she flaked. Seriously, your comments are really hit and miss sometimes.
 

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Update. Went to party. Basically no girls. Just old friends bumming around, all in all a pretty boring new years. Left feeling disappointed and with a sense of urgency needing to extend my social group. Felt lonely despite being around people. Need to spend time focusing on building my social life back up this new year
 

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Went to party. Basically no girls. Just old friends bumming around, all in all a pretty boring new years. Left feeling disappointed and with a sense of urgency needing to extend my social group. Felt lonely despite being around people. Need to spend time focusing on building my social life back up this new year
I believe this. Many years ago, I went to this New Years' Eve party that was a complete dud. It was a private residence party and almost everyone was unattached. No one kissed at midnight. That was ridiculous.

A very unpleasant experience for an unattached man is going to New Years' Eve event (either a private or public one) and seeing couples kissing at midnight while he has no one at midnight. It's best to know who your midnight kiss will be before the night starts. If you don't know that ahead of time, there's a big chance for an unpleasant occurrence to happen. Try going in for a kiss at midnight on someone and getting rejected for that. It's quite a disappointment.

Watching sports is a beta male activity. Play sports, don't watch them.
I oftentimes enjoy and learn from your writing but, not sure I can pretend to sign onto this one.
Watching sports has little benefit for a man. A typical sportsball game takes something like 2 hours, 45 minutes to 3 hours, 30 minutes.

With that block of time, you could...

1. Do something fitness oriented, which will help you get laid
2. Do an approach session, which could help you get laid
3. Do some meaningful personal development

Other people/brands benefit when you watch sports. The sports team makes money, the TV network makes money, and the advertising brands at the stadium/on TV make money. Meanwhile, you do not make money. You give your money to the sportsball team (if going to the stadium), you eat/drink more food/alcohol, and you probably aren't going to get laid from watching sports.

I know a couple in my social circle formed watching sports in a bar when both were fans of the same team. It can happen, but realize that exception proves the rule. In exception cases, realize that the woman is likely a more masculine type woman. In the case in my social circle, the woman is physically attractive but was pushing 30 when they met and the man was/is a beta male. She also has a demanding type career. They ended up getting married. I've barely interacted with the two parts of this couple, but they have had some substantial interactions with some of my friends and other acquaintances. The guy looks like a dweeb and the woman is borderline cute/hot. In terms of looks alone, she's at least 2.5 points higher than he is on a looks alone rating scale. At least 1 of the following 3 reasons applies to their relationship and would help explain why they are together.
  • He is rich
  • He has a big penis
  • She is a hotwife who is permitted to have sex with other men
She had a "last call" type baby with him in her mid-30s in 2022 so it can be argued she settled for the beta bucks side of her hypergamy because she couldn't get a commitment from a true alpha despite her good looks. She might squeeze out one more baby before 40, but it is doubtful that she's going to enjoy the next 18-20 years with some boring, dweebish looking beta bucks guy. She will be the classic late 30s/40 something MILF.
 

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Never mind. She just cancelled lol after asking “what kind of pizza do you want, I’ll go pick it up” to 30 mins later “hey I’m tired from cleaning all day, I’m just going to eat and go to bed. I won’t be much good company tonight”. Wtf? Women are the worst. Absolutely the worst. Terrible people.
Who the f0ck cancels on New Years Eve? My gut is telling me she is spinning men herself and a better option came up. F0ck her. I used to triple book back in my single days but many people here are against it.
 

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She just cancelled lol after asking “what kind of pizza do you want, I’ll go pick it up” to 30 mins later “hey I’m tired from cleaning all day, I’m just going to eat and go to bed. I won’t be much good company tonight”. Wtf? Women are the worst. Absolutely the worst. Terrible people.
Who the f0ck cancels on New Years Eve? My gut is telling me she is spinning men herself and a better option came up. F0ck her. I used to triple book back in my single days but many people here are against it.
One of my male friends got a cancellation for New Years Eve too. His primary girl of 6+ months in a 2 girl rotation cancelled their NYE plans to spend time with a female friend. That is likely the end of that interaction for my friend.

I used to triple book back in my single days but many people here are against it.
I am against double and triple booking but I can follow the thought process behind why someone would do that.

Instead of double and triple booking, I would book early stage dates on 2 consecutive nights or even 3 consecutive nights.

I found that the only way I could book early stage dates on 2-3 consecutive nights was through swipe apps. With stranger approaching, there's never been a time where I had enough abundance to book on 2-3 consecutive nights, though I could book 2 in a 7 day period.

Dates arranged from swipe apps and social media DMs tend to be lower quality than starting an interaction through some in-person effort. While it is great to have the bragging rights of dates arranged on 2-3 consecutive nights, it's not great when one flakes or dates happen on consecutive nights and both turn out to be shiit dates.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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Who the f0ck cancels on New Years Eve? My gut is telling me she is spinning men herself and a better option came up. F0ck her. I used to triple book back in my single days but many people here are against it.
Who cancels on a date SHE initiated and came up with?lol and I mean cancels ON HER WAY TO PICK UP THE PIZZA SHE WAS BRINGING OVER. Then she had the nerve to tell me she was going to eat the pizza she ordered for me and then go to bed cause she was tired.lol
 

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Who cancels on a date SHE initiated and came up with?lol
That's really bad.

and I mean cancels ON HER WAY TO PICK UP THE PIZZA SHE WAS BRINGING OVER. Then she had the nerve to tell me she was going to eat the pizza she ordered for me and then go to bed cause she was tired.lol
That's even worse.

There's no choice here but to end the interaction entirely.
 

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That's really bad.



That's even worse.

There's no choice here but to end the interaction entirely.
Well I haven’t heard from her since so I guess she’s ended the interaction already.lol I’m telling you, this stuff happens to me all the time lately. It’s like women have no respect for me and go out of their way to treat me like **** and not end things properly instead of making me look like a fool.
 

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Well I haven’t heard from her since so I guess she’s ended the interaction already.lol I’m telling you, this stuff happens to me all the time lately. It’s like women have no respect for me and go out of their way to treat me like **** and not end things properly instead of making me look like a fool.
You're not the only guy who has experienced this. What's even more shocking about this is that you played small school NCAA football. If you kept a similar physique as your small school NCAA football days, that's within the range of a top tier guy, if you are 6'0"+. Many football players are 6'0"+.

@sangheilios is 6'4" and 230 lbs, which is the physique of an NFL player or a power hitter in MLB. He still gets lousy treatment from women as he has detailed in many threads.
 

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Well I haven’t heard from her since so I guess she’s ended the interaction already.lol I’m telling you, this stuff happens to me all the time lately. It’s like women have no respect for me and go out of their way to treat me like **** and not end things properly instead of making me look like a fool.
It's a common experience. The extent to which even marginally attractive women can take men utterly for granted today never ceases to amaze me.
 

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You're not the only guy who has experienced this. What's even more shocking about this is that you played small school NCAA football. If you kept a similar physique as your small school NCAA football days, that's within the range of a top tier guy, if you are 6'0"+. Many football players are 6'0"+.

@sangheilios is 6'4" and 230 lbs, which is the physique of an NFL player or a power hitter in MLB. He still gets lousy treatment from women as he has detailed in many threads.
I’m in better shape now than when I was playing. I’m only 5’10 though, I was a cornerback.
 

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Well I haven’t heard from her since so I guess she’s ended the interaction already.lol I’m telling you, this stuff happens to me all the time lately. It’s like women have no respect for me and go out of their way to treat me like **** and not end things properly instead of making me look like a fool.
I've begun to behave the same way. Not out of spite, really, but out of expediency. I really can't be bothered anymore to extend courtesy that's never reciprocated. I guess they win: I'm finally as bad as them. It actually helps reduce the crippling sense of outrage that occurs every time they pull some perfidious stunt, because now I'm guilty too.
 

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I’m in better shape now than when I was playing. I’m only 5’10 though, I was a cornerback.
5'10" is an adequate size for a cornerback, especially 20-25 years ago, which is when I think you played.

5'10" and a fit 40+ guy doesn't deserve that sort of flakiness. It might be even worse if the female doing the flaking is 35-40.
 

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5'10" is an adequate size for a cornerback, especially 20-25 years ago, which is when I think you played.

5'10" and a fit 40+ guy doesn't deserve that sort of flakiness. It might be even worse if the female doing the flaking is 35-40.
Yeah I played 200-2003. The thing is I’m getting the horrible treatment from women 34+! Like women 29 and younger have been nothing but respectful even when ending things. It’s the women 34+ who like you one day and are done with you the next and flake or give some generic reason. It’s so weird.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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