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Is it a bad idea to approach a lot in small towns/suburbs as a sub-5 in this day and age where men are now second-class citizens? Big/medium size cities only?

I found the thread from firstpersonapproacher back a few years ago
Daygame NIGHTMARE! (My daygame experience and story) : seduction (reddit.com)

Honestly, one of the saddest things I've ever read. This guy had Asperger's and fought through major social anxiety to get up the courage to approach and he ended up arrested and had both his arms broken by a "hit squad" of local beta male white knight simps. You couldn't even tell he had autism from the approach. Just a little nervous sounding. GOOD for him! I'm actually proud of him. I wish they showed up at a house in the U.S. where people are allowed to be armed and defend themselves.

They ended up dropping the charges against firstpersonapproacher because he BROKE NO LAW. Facts before feelings.

As is typical, many anti-cold approach male hating feminist redditers were attacking and shaming HIM for the typical nonsense. Some even said there should be age gap laws made(FOR ADULTS) and all this other nonsense. Increasing the age of consent to 21/25 ect. This is the new thing now. He was 28. He was actually young himself. They were also shaming him approaching with too low of an smv. (red pill nonsense) Those women didn't even know what he did for a living. He got blow out before that. lol Apparently ugly people should have their arms broken for saying hello to a pretty girl. Real sick stuff.

I watched his infields. He left IMMEDIATELY when they said they weren't interested which was basically almost every interaction, and he said nothing lewd and TOUCHED no one. Thus, why the police couldn't make any charges stick. I think they arrested him due to public pressure and his own safety.

Where's the outrage over this kind of MOB injustice? Instead, they blame him. Sub 5 male in the west is now punishable by torture. A MOB Breaking both a guys arms is torture. It's worse than just beating him up and giving him a black eye.

I wish james tusk, his former coach, had the balls to stick up for this guy, instead he made a video basically disowning the guy. I like james tusks video so I was really sad to see this. He caved to the pressure. The only mistake he made was uploading onto youtube, but Those same video infields saved his ass. I bet many of those girls especially the few underage ones were making false allegations against him and that "hit squad" believed their lies. The police go by facts.

Nothing more dangerous than a white girls tears. In this case, these entitled princesses FELT creeped out simply by someone saying hi. That just means he's ugly/unattractive. Stuff on facebook/social media can rapidly spiral out of control in smaller towns as the women play professional victim and try to one up on another with their stories. I really wish I could take a time machine back to when there was no social media and men could be men.

He did nothing wrong. Stop victim blaming. These horrible women had him arrested and violently attacked for saying hello. Heterosexual men are under attack. Please wake up. They WILL COME FOR YOU eventually.

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

—Martin Niemöller
 

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Is it a bad idea to approach a lot in small towns/suburbs as a sub-5 in this day and age where men are now second-class citizens? Big/medium size cities only?

I found the thread from firstpersonapproacher back a few years ago
Daygame NIGHTMARE! (My daygame experience and story) : seduction (reddit.com)

Honestly, one of the saddest things I've ever read. This guy had Asperger's and fought through major social anxiety to get up the courage to approach and he ended up arrested and had both his arms broken by a "hit squad" of local beta male white knight simps. You couldn't even tell he had autism from the approach. Just a little nervous sounding. GOOD for him! I'm actually proud of him. I wish they showed up at a house in the U.S. where people are allowed to be armed and defend themselves.

They ended up dropping the charges against firstpersonapproacher because he BROKE NO LAW. Facts before feelings.

As is typical, many anti-cold approach male hating feminist redditers were attacking and shaming HIM for the typical nonsense. Some even said there should be age gap laws made(FOR ADULTS) and all this other nonsense. Increasing the age of consent to 21/25 ect. This is the new thing now. He was 28. He was actually young himself. They were also shaming him approaching with too low of an smv. (red pill nonsense) Those women didn't even know what he did for a living. He got blow out before that. lol Apparently ugly people should have their arms broken for saying hello to a pretty girl. Real sick stuff.

I watched his infields. He left IMMEDIATELY when they said they weren't interested which was basically almost every interaction, and he said nothing lewd and TOUCHED no one. Thus, why the police couldn't make any charges stick. I think they arrested him due to public pressure and his own safety.

Where's the outrage over this kind of MOB injustice? Instead, they blame him. Sub 5 male in the west is now punishable by torture. A MOB Breaking both a guys arms is torture. It's worse than just beating him up and giving him a black eye.

I wish james tusk, his former coach, had the balls to stick up for this guy, instead he made a video basically disowning the guy. I like james tusks video so I was really sad to see this. He caved to the pressure. The only mistake he made was uploading onto youtube, but Those same video infields saved his ass. I bet many of those girls especially the few underage ones were making false allegations against him and that "hit squad" believed their lies. The police go by facts.

Nothing more dangerous than a white girls tears. In this case, these entitled princesses FELT creeped out simply by someone saying hi. That just means he's ugly/unattractive. Stuff on facebook/social media can rapidly spiral out of control in smaller towns as the women play professional victim and try to one up on another with their stories. I really wish I could take a time machine back to when there was no social media and men could be men.

He did nothing wrong. Stop victim blaming. These horrible women had him arrested and violently attacked for saying hello. Heterosexual men are under attack. Please wake up. They WILL COME FOR YOU eventually.

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

—Martin Niemöller
Here we- go a- gain (DMX voice).

You can ONLY get in trouble with this if you cant read social cues. You cant go spam approaching women while lingering at the same place . The smaller the town, the sooner something bad might happen. That's common fecking sense. And geuss what . If my daughter comes home and tells me some creep is standing on the corner of the mall spam approaching women I also might go to a looksy.

A lion doesnt chase every zebra in sight. He might sit right behind them even drink along their side with out a attack. Only when he senses something specific he'll form a strategy and try his chance.

Just because you learn how to punch doesn't mean you know how to box.I rather do few quality approaches a week instead of 30 spam approaches a day. For me a day out of town approaching women would look like me chilling, talking to people drinking coffee somewhere walking and LOOKING for opportunities. Might be 2 might be 4. Different mindset.
 

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I hate how as men we automatically take the side of the guy here and blame society rather than truly asking and evaluating what went on just so we can fuel the whole "uh muh feminist society" nonsense from the Manosphere of old. It makes every guy think they are going to get in trouble for cold approaching when they will not.

I have been cold approaching for almost a year now and I have also met a lot of wings through pickup groups. After doing this for almost a year, I can confidently say that most men lack the social awareness and social calibration to successfully cold approach. In this guy's situation, I can immediately tell that he went right in, spam approached an entire area, brought a lot of attention to himself, and annoyed people to where they felt unsafe.

I've had wings that did that very thing and some of them ended up getting banned from venues because of it. Instead of blaming society or even the guy, let's blame coaches like James Tusk and other buffoons who are spreading nonsense and telling men to approach without reading a situation. Guys like them charge abnormally high prices for a bootcamp and afterwards, are not around to defend the poor chaps they coached.

Just this year, I saw a PUA bootcamp play out and it was the same nonsense. Idiot coaches telling men to "take action", making them look like fools in the process. These coaches will jump city to city but the poor guys themselves have to stick to that very city. Most men like those in the OP can benefit from learning how to read situations, when to actually approach, and then learning that way rather than spamming an entire venue and poisoning the well for everyone.

This isn't a society going to h3ll scenario, this was a misguided guy who failed to read social situations as well as a crappy coach blindly leading him to commit mistakes.
 

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Here we- go a- gain (DMX voice).

You can ONLY get in trouble with this if you cant read social cues. You cant go spam approaching women while lingering at the same place . The smaller the town, the sooner something bad might happen. That's common fecking sense. And geuss what . If my daughter comes home and tells me some creep is standing on the corner of the mall spam approaching women I also might go to a looksy.

A lion doesnt chase every zebra in sight. He might sit right behind them even drink along their side with out a attack. Only when he senses something specific he'll form a strategy and try his chance.

Just because you learn how to punch doesn't mean you know how to box.I rather do few quality approaches a week instead of 30 spam approaches a day. For me a day out of town approaching women would look like me chilling, talking to people drinking coffee somewhere walking and LOOKING for opportunities. Might be 2 might be 4. Different mindset.
Nah, let's just blame feminism, "western society", and "hypergamy" as well as politics. Forget taking any accountability. Let's just feel sorry for a guy that was likely coming off as a weirdo and a scammy coach who misled him. /s

I have done this for almost a year and tbh, I wish MORE spam approaching dudes would get into trouble so we no longer have to deal with the well being poisoned. Here in Miami, so many game guys will spam relentlessly and annoy girls which makes the girls put their guards up even more and now others who know what they are doing have to work harder to get the same girl. These girls have massive egos now because the 10th PUA wannabe flooded them with a spam approach that day.

If anything, I think western society is going soft on these men. I have seen dudes spam approach a girl who shows she is not interested, approach her again right when she has made it clear she is not interested, and get her to a point where she has to practically run away from the creep. We can use a more aggressive approach on these creeps who are ruining it for everyone.
 

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I hate how as men we automatically take the side of the guy here and blame society rather than truly asking and evaluating what went on just so we can fuel the whole "uh muh feminist society" nonsense from the Manosphere of old. It makes every guy think they are going to get in trouble for cold approaching when they will not.

I have been cold approaching for almost a year now and I have also met a lot of wings through pickup groups. After doing this for almost a year, I can confidently say that most men lack the social awareness and social calibration to successfully cold approach. In this guy's situation, I can immediately tell that he went right in, spam approached an entire area, brought a lot of attention to himself, and annoyed people to where they felt unsafe.

I've had wings that did that very thing and some of them ended up getting banned from venues because of it. Instead of blaming society or even the guy, let's blame coaches like James Tusk and other buffoons who are spreading nonsense and telling men to approach without reading a situation. Guys like them charge abnormally high prices for a bootcamp and afterwards, are not around to defend the poor chaps they coached.

Just this year, I saw a PUA bootcamp play out and it was the same nonsense. Idiot coaches telling men to "take action", making them look like fools in the process. These coaches will jump city to city but the poor guys themselves have to stick to that very city. Most men like those in the OP can benefit from learning how to read situations, when to actually approach, and then learning that way rather than spamming an entire venue and poisoning the well for everyone.

This isn't a society going to h3ll scenario, this was a misguided guy who failed to read social situations as well as a crappy coach blindly leading him to commit mistakes.
Total Bull****. You yourself have stated you have to do a lot of approaching before it becomes "illegal". That has to do with society. There has always been men who did a lot of approaches, what you call "spamming". If you are average or below, it's the only way you are going to get anywhere with this since you are trying to find a woman who likes your look.

What you are talking about is basically "warm" approach or approaching only if you are a good looking guy. Cold approach is exactly that. Approaching without obvious IOI's. Anything other than that is warm approaching.

You are basically blaming this guy for getting his arms broken in an home invasion. Those guys should be doing 20 years for that.

The pua bootcamp likely has UGLY guys in it. That's really what this is about. Let's get real. I don't think someone looks like a "fool" for chatting up a girl and saying hello.
 

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Actually, just read the reddit thread, the whole thing happened in the UK and a smaller city/town there at that. Now this makes somewhat more sense and I cannot victim blame as much. I wish all pickup coaches and companies emphasized this more, location is literally everything.

Why did RSD do all of their "bootcamps" in Vegas and not in some small southern city where people are more conservative and religious? It isn't because they love playing black jack!

All guys watching these cold approach or even youtube prank videos involving hot girls, these things happen in LA, Vegas, and big cities for a reason. It is because in those environments, people are desensitized to a guy talking to random women when you have things like drugged up homeless people everywhere scaring everybody. These videos need to have a Do Not Try This In Your Hometown warning to them. I think action needs to be taken against PUA coaches and companies that refuse to talk about the importance of location and culture in cold approaching.

If you live in a small town or even a small city, do not get into the habit of doing this! You will ruin your reputation and other things as well. As for the UK, it has always been that way there. This is the same country that gave us the Victorian Era and the Brits have long been sex shamers.
 

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Nah, let's just blame feminism, "western society", and "hypergamy" as well as politics. Forget taking any accountability. Let's just feel sorry for a guy that was likely coming off as a weirdo and a scammy coach who misled him. /s

I have done this for almost a year and tbh, I wish MORE spam approaching dudes would get into trouble so we no longer have to deal with the well being poisoned. Here in Miami, so many game guys will spam relentlessly and annoy girls which makes the girls put their guards up even more and now others who know what they are doing have to work harder to get the same girl. These girls have massive egos now because the 10th PUA wannabe flooded them with a spam approach that day.

If anything, I think western society is going soft on these men. I have seen dudes spam approach a girl who shows she is not interested, approach her again right when she has made it clear she is not interested, and get her to a point where she has to practically run away from the creep. We can use a more aggressive approach on these creeps who are ruining it for everyone.
Ahhh.... that's what this is about. Jesse pinkham who is SELFISH is just worried that ugly guys will ruin it for him. They will come for you eventually no matter what. You don't get it. I also love the way you conflate a woman running away from a guy who she's already said no to with saying hello.

How about the WOMEN take some accountability for their disgusting behavior towards men just shooting their shot and also those men that committed the felony assaults should also take accountability.

Hypergamy has nothing to with any of this. He never got past hello.
 
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Total Bull****. You yourself have stated you have to do a lot of approaching before it becomes "illegal". That has to do with society. There has always been men who did a lot of approaches, what you call "spamming". If you are average or below, it's the only way you are going to get anywhere with this since you are trying to find a woman who likes your look.

What you are talking about is basically "warm" approach or approaching only if you are a good looking guy. Cold approach is exactly that. Approaching without obvious IOI's. Anything other than that is warm approaching.

You are basically blaming this guy for getting his arms broken in an home invasion. Those guys should be doing 20 years for that.

The pua bootcamp likely has UGLY guys in it. That's really what this is about. Let's get real. I don't think someone looks like a "fool" for chatting up a girl and saying hello.
No BS here at all. You posted this thread with the hopes that we would all agree with you and get on the whole "the west is dead" and "wah wah feminism" bandwagon, we did not. What happened to the poor guy is unfortunate but I wonder if there is more to the story than just that. In most cases, the worst that happens is you either get kicked out of a venue or get told to stop. Speaking as an American here as I am not familiar with the UK.

I think it is time we as daygamers and guys approaching women took some accountability. I have been in the community long enough to know that it is flooded with parasitic, toxic, and overall awful men that deliver no value and are just predators preying on helpless women. We don't want to accept this and just blame feminism but it is so true. PUA is flooded with value sucking parasites who offer nothing to women and yet feel entitled to sex. It is time we called it out instead of blaming society.
 

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I hate how as men we automatically take the side of the guy here and blame society rather than truly asking and evaluating what went on just so we can fuel the whole "uh muh feminist society" nonsense from the Manosphere of old. It makes every guy think they are going to get in trouble for cold approaching when they will not.

I have been cold approaching for almost a year now and I have also met a lot of wings through pickup groups. After doing this for almost a year, I can confidently say that most men lack the social awareness and social calibration to successfully cold approach. In this guy's situation, I can immediately tell that he went right in, spam approached an entire area, brought a lot of attention to himself, and annoyed people to where they felt unsafe.

I've had wings that did that very thing and some of them ended up getting banned from venues because of it. Instead of blaming society or even the guy, let's blame coaches like James Tusk and other buffoons who are spreading nonsense and telling men to approach without reading a situation. Guys like them charge abnormally high prices for a bootcamp and afterwards, are not around to defend the poor chaps they coached.

Just this year, I saw a PUA bootcamp play out and it was the same nonsense. Idiot coaches telling men to "take action", making them look like fools in the process. These coaches will jump city to city but the poor guys themselves have to stick to that very city. Most men like those in the OP can benefit from learning how to read situations, when to actually approach, and then learning that way rather than spamming an entire venue and poisoning the well for everyone.

This isn't a society going to h3ll scenario, this was a misguided guy who failed to read social situations as well as a crappy coach blindly leading him to commit mistakes.
I believe the comeuppance of dating coaches was like 20 years ago. I read a hilarious article in the newspaper about this.

A reporter went "undercover " to a cold approach course. 800 bucks. He wrote he got together with a group of men and some smooth Chad hustler dating coach. They were screening women during the most busy time in town and whe a pretty woman would walk by the poor bloke got a hypothetical Spartan kick in the back to go and talk with her.

Ofcourse these conversations didn't went smooth, so geuss who came in to "save the situation "? Coach Chad Hustler. He would explain to the woman they were doing a cold approach course and that he was his coach, and eventually HE would leave with her number. "Oke let's try another one".

Funny thing was I my town every dude did cold approaching. Part of the culture. I was stunned to learn men are willing to pay big bucks for that shyte and even contemplated doing that coaching shyte myself. Now you see these guys took there business to the internet.
 
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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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No BS here at all. You posted this thread with the hopes that we would all agree with you and get on the whole "the west is dead" and "wah wah feminism" bandwagon, we did not. What happened to the poor guy is unfortunate but I wonder if there is more to the story than just that. In most cases, the worst that happens is you either get kicked out of a venue or get told to stop. Speaking as an American here as I am not familiar with the UK.

I think it is time we as daygamers and guys approaching women took some accountability. I have been in the community long enough to know that it is flooded with parasitic, toxic, and overall awful men that deliver no value and are just predators preying on helpless women. We don't want to accept this and just blame feminism but it is so true. PUA is flooded with value sucking parasites who offer nothing to women and yet feel entitled to sex. It is time we called it out instead of blaming society.
Predators preying on helpless women? LMAO This toxic line of thinking has infected every aspect and facet of our society.

I thought women were powerful independent, and strong? What's saying hello to someone and asking for a date have to do with feeling entitled to sex? If you felt entitled, you wouldn't ask for consent to a conversation. Men have no advantage over women, except for physical strength. Women are consenting adults. Talk about the kettle calling the pot black. Man do you have a mirror? Many guys are looking for a g/f doing this. I've read your threads. You are just looking to up your lay count. You literally said that. Do you tell the women that when cold approaching them? Are you telling them what you are offering? Do you let them see your threads on here? lol If I was a woman with any self-respect, I wouldn't go near you if I knew what you were about. And I'm NOT judging you for consentual activities. I'm just calling out the hypocrisy.

If the guys offers nothing to women, the women next them. A man going out and spam approaching is trying to find a woman that finds him attractive, thus offering her something. Women are not helpless. They have a mouth and can say no. It's called being a consenting adult. Now you are conflating SA with saying hello. This is beyond even what radical feminists talk about. This B.S. psycho babble is all because you were worried these guys will ruin YOUR hedonistic fun by drawing attention to pickup. OBVIOUS

Nope, I knew I was going to get pushback. It's the internet and society is screwed up BAD. It's on this forum as well. Happened on my other threads.
 
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Just be better
......LOOKING.

Guy gets his arms broken for saying hello and the advice is "just be better" to the MAN that gets his arms broken. Crazy.

Btw- if he kept doing that eventually he'd get a girl. It's just like online dating strategy. Mass emails work best. Bigger pool of fish the better. The problem with swipe apps is they don't allow you to email the girls. They were specifically designed to make sure women don't see ugly guys in their matches. God forbid.
 

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......LOOKING.

Guy gets his arms broken for saying hello and the advice is "just be better" to the MAN that gets his arms broken. Crazy.

Btw- if he kept doing that eventually he'd get a girl. It's just like online dating strategy. Mass emails work best. Bigger pool of fish the better. The problem with swipe apps is they don't allow you to email the girls. They were specifically designed to make sure women don't see ugly guys in their matches. God forbid.
Just be better.

Even spam approaching is an art in itself. The OG's on the block did nothing but spam approaching. But on such a level that some women would actually feel safer walking past them than some random ally or street.

They were friendly and polite, charming and didn't took themselves too serious. They would make contact with the woman without being in her face immediately. Even the police would talk to them occasionally, because they could often provide information about the neighborhood because they were always outside.

And yes, sometimes there would be a woman who would stand still, laugh and give her number. Other times they would see the same girl in a completely different setting like a party and continue their approach there. At some point we as young dogs started hanging with these older dudes because it gave us a better change to meet women. The subtle art of cold approaching the entire world.
 

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As is typical, many anti-cold approach male hating feminist redditers were attacking and shaming HIM for the typical nonsense. Some even said there should be age gap laws made(FOR ADULTS) and all this other nonsense. Increasing the age of consent to 21/25 ect. This is the new thing now.
People on the internet are anti-social for the most part. If they liked and got along well with other people they'd be with their real friends and not living on Reddit/Twitter. Extremists tend to be in this group of people as well, the average radical feminist isn't going to be able to hold down a steady job and social circle if they practice what they preach.


I wish james tusk, his former coach, had the balls to stick up for this guy, instead he made a video basically disowning the guy. I like james tusks video so I was really sad to see this. He caved to the pressure.
James Tusk may be a bit of a grifter. I'm somewhat familiar with him, but the common criticism he receives is that he's a 6'4 Chad with male model good looks and a British accent, yet he's supposedly teaching regular guys how to pick up girls on the street.

I don't dislike him, but hearing him disown people who don't succeed with his advice makes me suspicious.

read. This guy had Asperger's and fought through major social anxiety to get up the courage to approach and he ended up arrested and had both his arms broken by a "hit squad" of local beta male white knight simps. You couldn't even tell he had autism from the approach. Just a little nervous sounding. GOOD for him! I'm actually proud of him. I wish they showed up at a house in the U.S. where people are allowed to be armed and defend themselves.
I agree with you 100% the scariest part of this to me is that it sounds like a modern day lynch mob.
 

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......LOOKING.

Guy gets his arms broken for saying hello and the advice is "just be better" to the MAN that gets his arms broken. Crazy.

Btw- if he kept doing that eventually he'd get a girl. It's just like online dating strategy. Mass emails work best. Bigger pool of fish the better. The problem with swipe apps is they don't allow you to email the girls. They were specifically designed to make sure women don't see ugly guys in their matches. God forbid.
I can't ascribe to that approach. Game is circumstantial in nature. Would you go pet a nervous dog? "Just be better" means pay attention. You can tell within reasonable odds if you should approach or not. Sucks to suck
 

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I can't ascribe to that approach. Game is circumstantial in nature. Would you go pet a nervous dog? "Just be better" means pay attention. You can tell within reasonable odds if you should approach or not. Sucks to suck
No you can't. Statements like this make me question if a lot of you are really doing a lot of cold approaching.

I completely disagree with that. I've been in-field for a while. I've done more approaches than you can imagine, and I can never tell how she'll react. Sometimes she lights up with a huge smile and thanks me for the approach even when rejecting me, while I was worried she was going to be bitchy. Other times a woman will give you the nastiest look imaginable just at hello and totally ignore you. It's totally based on how the woman immediately perceives you and whether she is a nice person or not.

Sometimes they seem nice, but uninterested/shy, but then give you their number! Great convos go nowhere with a nice rejection, while 10 second convos get a number! Sometimes without you asking! Women are deceptive and hard to read. Let's be real. And You absolutely can not mind read a woman just walking by on the street and determine if she will be nice or not.

Some women are really good people who are kind and empathetic. Others are trash.

If you want to test a woman's character, have an ugly guy who can't offer her anything approach her respectfully and see how she treats him. It's just like how a woman should see how the man treats the waiter to see his true character.

I wish I could tell who's going to be nice or not before I approach. It would make things easier. YOU CAN'T. Unless you are waiting for strong ioi's and that is no longer a cold approach, but a warm approach and is rare.
 
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Hi, female interaction has largely remained a mystery throughout life.
I was shy as a teen and 20 something and had a near panic attack around girls my age back in the day.
It was a proximity thing, if I could hover on the edge of the group about 5 metres away I was fine, but the closer I got the worse it got until I got shaky and my cheeks flushed.
I got into daygame through James Tusk in 2018 at the age of 28 1/2 and approached in my town a lot.
Unfortunately a few girls (some of whom were under aged but looked older) complained to the police that I was a "creepy weird guy" and I got arrested since I gave police my details (in a.previous encounter) thinking that I couldn't get arrested for saying hi to people.
But then they complained on Facebook and there were groups of armed men driving around town looking for me so for my own safety I was taken into custody and charged with harassment.
For my own safety and the fact that it probably won't work, I don't daygame in my town anymore but I do go to nearby towns where I try to daygame.
Daygame doesn't seem to work on locals and seems to really offend them so I am highly selective about who I approach and the situations in which I approach.
There might be more going on here than what this guy is admitting. We are only getting one side of the story, plus speculation.

I got into my head from James Tusk's videos that day gaming and going out meeting girls was an existential fulfillment activity that would help my life to make sense
Sounds like this James Tusk guy is full of it.

I was getting to the point where I could deal with rejection and deal with socially awkward situations by being "in the moment", but as a result of this situation I am pretty much back where I started.
I am having therapy sessions and my therapist is very much against daygame and considers it sexual harassment and akin to cat calling. I tried to explaining it to him and how it a genuine way to meet people sober during the day but he won't change his viewpoint.
He thinks that I don't have the social skills to make it work but I would like to prove him wrong.
Maybe get a second opinion from another therapist. Some more background on this guy's culture would also help determine exactly what is going on.

Based on the information given, assumptions would have to be made to draw any kind of conclusion.
 

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And I think this is a sensible response on that reddit page:

It sounds like cold approaching might not be your thing. Not everyone is meant to do cold approaching, despite what dating coaches trying to sell products say.
One of my best friends from uni is good-looking and a natural extrovert, and he's really good at cold approaching. He does it all the time and gets great results. I'm the opposite. I have autism so can't read social cues properly, I'm considered ugly, and I'm also a foreigner in a Western country, which makes it harder.
So to meet people, I focus on having social hobbies and social circle game.
It also sounds to me like you may need to spend less time thinking about women. For them to report you, it means you might be giving of a desperate vibe or saying the wrong thing. Maybe for the next 6 months, don't try to meet women, but focus on the other areas of your life and try to be happy and passionate about them. Learn to be happy and complete without women.
Take all this time and energy and dedicate it to other things, like hobbies, studies, exercise, work, male friends.
Then 6 months from now when you do try to meet women, follow the 90/10 rule, as in don't spend more than 10% of your time and energy on women, and dedicate at least 90% of your time and energy to other things. This way you won't be desperate.
And maybe avoid cold approaching when you do try to meet women. Cold approaching isn't for everyone.
I hope nothing I said here sounded harsh or offensive to you. I genuinely am worried about you, as I'm someone with autism who didn't understand social interactions for a long time, and had to find my own way and what uniquely worked for me. Which was hard at first because a lot of guys out there are saying "cold approach is da answer for all your problems". But the truth is, cold approach is the answer for some guys, but not everyone.
Don't be afraid to say no to something if it doesn't work for you, and it's only hurting you and others.
 

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