Opinion on Las Vegas after being there a week

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I stayed in the cosmopolitan for 4 days- work related, freemont street the next, and Mandalay Bay the rest.

I’ll be honest, y’all Cali escapees bragging about leaving for Vegas must be on some funny drugs. This is easily the top worst 3 cities I have ever visited in my life. I rarely saw any hot girls, even on the strip at night. I didn’t see many day game opportunities due to scarce amount of quality women and most people were in groups. Now I might be biased because I don’t gamble, but none of it looked enticing aside from the card tables. I had the omg Vegas food and it was all overrated and overpriced. Vegas is the Orlando, Florida of the West IMHO.

2/10

 

[zekko]

I've never been to Vegas, but I'm guessing there would be a lot of old people there (speaking as one myself).

 

[SargeMaximus]

I have a lot of fond memories visiting Vegas as a kid but yeah it’s mostly for touristy types, Karens, and old people

 

[sangheilios]

Almost a year ago I had considered moving there for a change of scenery. I recall doing some research on reddit and what was mentioned about the local social scene was not good. I guess drugs are a huge problem there, which doesn't really surprise me, and the overall quality you'd see with the locals is low. It was also described as having a very fake aura with the people there, again that didn't surprise me.

I think if you wanted to do game there it would have to be with those that are there on vacation. The women being in groups makes sense though because they are on vacation, most women don't feel comfortable travelling alone. You'd basically have to hit up the nightlife scene, especially during something like spring break, etc. Most of the time though I could see it being primarily older people visiting. Great place to hit up strip clubs or fool around with some escorts though, the degree of access and sheer variety, quality and quantity is probably nothing you'd see anywhere else in the U.S.

 

[Mike32ct]

From what I'm reading online, it has gone downhill big time. I haven't been there in 4 years.

 

[SW15]

You're right that a lot of people from Southern California have moved to Las Vegas.

There's a big difference between spending time on the Las Vegas Strip and living in Las Vegas day-to-day. Most Las Vegas locals do not spend their leisure time on The Strip. Many locals work on The Strip but leave that area when they get off work.

Las Vegas locals have a way of going to places where other Las Vegas locals would be. The Strip doesn't resemble much about real life in Las Vegas.

I think if you wanted to do game there it would have to be with those that are there on vacation.

If you were a Las Vegas local man, it would be possible to game women there on vacation. With tight game, you could get a lot of 1-2 night stands.

The women being in groups makes sense though because they are on vacation, most women don't feel comfortable travelling alone. You'd basically have to hit up the nightlife scene, especially during something like spring break, etc.

Women don't even tend to go to bars in their home cities alone, let alone traveling alone.

In general, more travel is done by couples in LTRs. Las Vegas is a little bit different because both male friend groups and female friend groups will go. Las Vegas is a common destination for both bachelor/bachelorette parties and random friend group weekends.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I just wanted to add that I did rarely see any hot girls. Most people were just old or scraps from big sky country/Arizona.

There's a big difference between spending time on the Las Vegas Strip and living in Las Vegas day-to-day. Most Las Vegas locals do not spend their leisure time on The Strip. Many locals work on The Strip but leave that area when they get off work.

I get this but I still didn’t see this huge drawing appeal outside the strip. Entering the city driving from California looked depressing. Everything is brown, ugly, dirty, and cookie cutter. The only appeal I see is if a Californian just wants to pay less in taxes and just never leave his house lol.

 

[SW15]

I just wanted to add that I did rarely see any hot girls. Most people were just old or scraps from big sky country/Arizona.

Vegas does have a reputation for good pusssy. The hot female bartenders, pool servers, and women in a few other occupations live there.

I get this but I still didn’t see this huge drawing appeal outside the strip. Entering the city driving from California looked depressing. Everything is brown, ugly, dirty, and cookie cutter.

Phoenix and Tucson are also brown, ugly, dirty, and cookie cutter in areas that are developed. Some of the untouched desert spots there are good.

Las Vegas is similar to Phoenix and Tucson.

You also expressed dislike for Phoenix in this thread. You were the first to respond to it. Much of the dislike is warranted.

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The only appeal I see is if a Californian just wants to pay less in taxes and just never leave his house lol.

Lots of people in Arizona and Nevada are complaining that ex-Californians are ruining their states.

Phoenix, Tucson, and Las Vegas all got overdeveloped in the 1990s and the growth just kept happening.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

You also expressed dislike for Phoenix in this thread. You were the first to respond to it. Much of the dislike is warranted.

Ive never been to Phoenix but I feel like I have a good idea of what it is, and I don’t think I’d like it lol.

Vegas does have a reputation for good pusssy. The hot female bartenders, pool servers, and women in a few other occupations live there.

lol I didn’t see any of this dead Srs. More like girls that would be considered a 7-8 in Barstow, California or something lol. Hottest girl I saw was the flight attendant coming back lol.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

Here’s the thing about Vegas. It’s all about two things: who you know and what you’re worth.

Ballers in from out of town are going to be at the highest high end places. Period. Hot women go where the ballers go. That ain’t the Cosmopolitan and it ain’t Fremont St. It ain’t the buffet anywhere.

Hot women go to exclusive venues. There is no reason for them to be out walking around.

Out walking around are going to be the public, seniors in cargo shorts and fanny packs & ethnic minorities who are mostly some variety of obese. Ick.

Hot women in Vegas simply are not accessible to avg. Joes. Why would they be?

So you have to know where the hip venues are where the ballers go (and every place advertises that they are IT)….they aren’t.

Which gets us back to WHO you know that can give you that intel.

Let’s put it this way. Exclusivity costs money. Find out the very best places that are rated? You better have bank. The top rated French restaurant will set you back over a G for dinner, excluding wine or drinks and has a four month waiting list.

That’s not your crowd Im guessing.

 

[devilkingx2]

Hot women go to exclusive venues. There is no reason for them to be out walking around.

This actually does make Vegas sound like a 1/10 destination.

Let’s put it this way. Exclusivity costs money. Find out the very best places that are rated? You better have bank. The top rated French restaurant will set you back over a G for dinner, excluding wine or drinks and has a four month waiting list.

At that point OP should just get an escort. If he's spending thousands of dollars he should get a threesome with Onlyfans models.

 

[DonJuanjr]

At that point OP should just get an escort. If he's spending thousands of dollars he should get a threesome with Onlyfans models.

But those aren't "exclusive" wh0res....

 

[Hal9000]

Las Vegas is something most people should try once, just for the spectacle of it all combined with unparalleled people watching but I certainly wouldn't head there because I wanted to get laid, unless you're looking for working girls. The selection of those there is definitely above average compared to most places.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Vegas has that lure of drawing men in with the prospect of easy sex. Personally, I want to go to the Moonlight Bunny Ranch at some point to see the hype (but it is elsewhere in Nevada). I went to a few years ago before the pandemic and it seemed trashy. Saw a fair share of drug addicts out and about as well as a fair number of fights. I have heard from friends that since the pandemic, the quality of crowd has also gone down a lot in Vegas which means more trashy behavior.

It just seems like wherever RSD runs their bootcamps en masse tends to degrade immensely over the years.

 

[BeExcellent]

What I don’t understand is why non-Chad guys expect women who are hot enough to appeal to Chads to give them (non-Chads) the time of day.

This isn’t just in Vegas either but Vegas is an over blown example because Vegas is great at dangling that fantasy in front of the general public. Vegas is fabulous at self promotion and advertising. Not my problem if you believe the hype.

I go to Vegas at least monthly on business. Frankly I don’t enjoy it much. It’s longer lines everywhere from the car rental bus lines to the check in lines at the hotels. It’s crowded and all about extracting money from people who financially have no business gambling, but it seduces people who have otherwise ordinary lives and no style whatsoever.

I’ve stopped staying on the Strip years ago just to get away from all the ugly Americans with their cargo pants & fanny packs. Now all the casinos have also started charging to park, where that used to be free. Yes Vegas has sold the fantasy really, really well.

The best way to do Vegas is fly in privately and have a driver meet you and avoid the crowds and go the the exclusive venues (which most people CANNOT afford) and do a real VIP experience or be well connected locally so you know how to do Vegas like a local. If you have an ID showing a LVNV address? Guess what? You don’t pay $50 cover at the club. That’s for the tourist suckers and the wannabes. They waive the cover for the locals.

They let the locals in free by charging the regular tourists $50. Unless you know somebody etc.

 

[SW15]

Vegas has that lure of drawing men in with the prospect of easy sex.

And yet, Vegas doesn't always deliver on that promise of easy sex, unless you're directly paying for sex.

I go to Vegas at least monthly on business.

Too many conferences in Las Vegas.

It’s crowded and all about extracting money from people who financially have no business gambling, but it seduces people who have otherwise ordinary lives and no style whatsoever.

I'm smart enough to avoid Las Vegas. I like to think I have a decent sense of personal style. I'm not at all into gambling.

The best way to do Vegas is fly in privately and have a driver meet you and avoid the crowds and go the the exclusive venues (which most people CANNOT afford) and do a real VIP experience or be well connected locally so you know how to do Vegas like a local. If you have an ID showing a LVNV address? Guess what? You don’t pay $50 cover at the club. That’s for the tourist suckers and the wannabes. They waive the cover for the locals.

They let the locals in free by charging the regular tourists $50. Unless you know somebody etc.

It might be possible for a Las Vegas local man with decent game to get some easy tourist pusssy. Some women want to have a discreet one night stand in Las Vegas away from their boyfriend or husband.

 

[f(x)]

Nowhere near as classy as Atlantic City, but at least they have the AVN awards.
I bet the real ballers are in Monaco.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I have been around the real rich and the fake rich. The fake rich congregate to the Vegas and what is flashy of the world. The real rich are a lot more subtle and seem to congregate to places you have to be in the know to know about. It is like they have an invisible language they speak to each other and only they themselves can understand it. Like it is almost a weird trend in a way.

The real rich and the real cool kids find a place. It becomes a subtle get together of the cool inner society which includes actual attractive women and actually cool guys. Then at some point they let in someone who is too loud and that person spills the beans. Soon that place becomes mainstream. Before you know it, you have another Hamptons or Vegas on your hand. Every ratchet, trailer trash, and guido is flooding that place.

Once you start seeing those 3 demographics, you know it has gone downhill.

 

[BeExcellent]

Honestly agree with both @SW15 and Jesse on this. I have legit business in Vegas, not some idiot conference and it’s a pain when the big conferences are in town because it just makes everything more pronounced.

One of my business associates is extremely well connected in Vegas and has been for many years. He also will provide me access by proxy because I know him. I mean like for 35 years I’ve known him & Id trust him with both my money and my kids. That’s trust. And I don’t waste his time hitting him up for favors either. But if he says ya know, you might check out XYZ and I go? Often my money is no good there and waits disappear and doors open. Doesn’t suck.

Agree 100% with Jesse on the exclusivity of truly wealthy people. It IS an unspoken language and you do have to be in the know. Real wealth is often quiet wealth. And for good reason. Let’s put it this way. The best French restaurant in Vegas? You’ve never heard of it. The chef is not on Top Chef either. And you don’t just walk in and sit at the bar. It is bespoke and that is what the very wealthy require. Not expect, require. And that is true of many things, fashion, leisure, & taste in all things.

There are handbags that will set you back 50G. And they are not covered in a logo, but if you own one? Other people in that eschelon will recognize you as belonging. It is subtle but it’s there.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I learned more about the true rich vs. fake rich in my years in NYC than anywhere else. In Manhattan, you had certain bars that were hole in the wall and even hidden in restaurants. One was in Soho, you'd walk into a casual restaurant, keep walking and turn right, and then walk down a flight of steps to end up at an underground nightclub. It was 70% model tier girls on most nights and 30% guys who were usually from the Ivy Leagues. It was an Ivy League gathering spot for folks that went there.

The bouncers would reject hot girls in groups all the time but only let in people that gave off the vibe of the bar itself. As for the women they let in? Tall model types and really hot girls. The guys? It was based on what you wore, how you came off, when you came, and if you gave off that Ivy League vibe. My hottest night game lays ever were from that bar.

You would go in and make small talk with people who were friendly. They were sizing you up to see if you gave off those Old Money vibes. Overtime, I became a regular there and realized that the owner had a certain mindset. If you were too loud or gave off that try hard new money vibe, people could sniff it up and he said he turned people down that way. Bouncers were told to turn down girls and guys, no matter how hot, who gave off "Jersey vibes". I loved it and met some cool folks from there.

Followed their IGs and they were always set to private and their stories were in this low-key type of resorts and towns blogs and magazines rarely write about. These were old money people and some of them do not even tag the location if their Insta is set to public.