Admitting that you’re an inexperienced guy in your OLD bio

[needimprovement250]

For the record, I am inexperienced since I’ve never had a gf or dated anyone at 29. I’m not a virgin though since I had a ONS 7 years ago. I’m not saying that I would do this myself, I made this thread because I was wondering what everyone’s predictions are on what would happen. I actually got this idea because I was on Tinder (I don’t use it for myself, I have a fake account) and came across a girl who said in her bio that she’s never been in a relationship. Personally, I think it would result in either zero matches or very few. That would probably happen because a lot of women are turned off by inexperience and even ones who don’t see it as an issue might be put off by the fact that you shared that information in your OLD bio. What do you guys think?

 

[Stanley]

Nah, Fake it until you make it.

 

[Zimbabwe]

Unless they specifically ask about it, DON'T mention it

 

[needimprovement250]

Unless they specifically ask about it, DON'T mention it

Nah, Fake it until you make it.

I’m not doing this, I posted this because I was wondering what everyone here would think the results would be. But I think that even when they ask about it and you’re honest, they can still get turned off and end it with you.

 

[CyrusTheGreat]

Unless they specifically ask about it, DON'T mention it

Even when they ask, there is no reason for you to tell them about it; especially early on. It kills the mystery.

 

[Mike32ct]

I understand it's just a hypothetical or a "thought experiment." It's a fair question.

My best guess is zero matches at worst or maybe one fat chick will talk to you only (i.e. friendzone) at best.

There is no such thing as "pity sex" for a single incel or nearcel guy.


You would need a "normal" profile to try to find a girlfriend. Even then, you have three options:

a) Don't say anything about the inexperience and try to just own the situation.

b) Mention a lengthy dry spell if and only if things start to head towards intimacy.

c) Be honest about the inexperience (after a few weeks) if you honestly think she could handle it, e.g. if she's an older woman and/or just a chill chick that really likes you.

 

[DonJuanjr]

I understand it's just a hypothetical or a "thought experiment." It's a fair question.

My best guess is zero matches at worst or maybe one fat chick will talk to you only (i.e. friendzone) at best.

There is no such thing as "pity sex" for a single incel or nearcel guy.


You would need a "normal" profile to try to find a girlfriend. Even then, you have three options:

a) Don't say anything about the inexperience and try to just own the situation.

b) Mention a lengthy dry spell if and only if things start to head towards intimacy.

c) Be honest about the inexperience (after a few weeks) if you honestly think she could handle it, e.g. if she's an older woman and/or just a chill chick that really likes you.

Or, the dude could lower his standards, and actually gain experience... One can tell with his "honest and open" mindset with women, that he is still a nice guy.

 

[corrector]

For the record, I am inexperienced since I’ve never had a gf or dated anyone at 29. I’m not a virgin though since I had a ONS 7 years ago. I’m not saying that I would do this myself, I made this thread because I was wondering what everyone’s predictions are on what would happen. I actually got this idea because I was on Tinder (I don’t use it for myself, I have a fake account) and came across a girl who said in her bio that she’s never been in a relationship. Personally, I think it would result in either zero matches or very few. That would probably happen because a lot of women are turned off by inexperience and even ones who don’t see it as an issue might be put off by the fact that you shared that information in your OLD bio. What do you guys think?

I tried that out in 2006 and it worked. But it was strained, hard and ended up cancelling the hookup. The lady even thought my profile pic was cute but questioned why an inexperienced guy would go with any random girl. That was November 2006. Today I dont know if that would work at all or be the same. If you are looking for a girlfriend then I dont think its helpful since you should see if you are compatible first and how you get along with her. At the end of the day, if you are healrhy and dont need Viagara you should be good.

BTW, because of feminism and the implied message a woman owes you pity svx and metoo nonsence, I would not put that on a profile as it might attract the wrong type of attention. You have some malicious elemsnts you have to be careful with. Dont bring it up on a profile. There are too many sexless men to feel special about it or feel it would have an appeal vs 00s or earlier.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Or, the dude could lower his standards, and actually gain experience... One can tell with his "honest and open" mindset with women, that he is still a nice guy.

To some degree I would be with you on this. I got my hand in a girls pants on a park bench in high school because I wanted to know that was like, she smelled like fish and I didn’t love it but it was still amazing… but I also talked with guys and they made a good point, you have standards

 

[Gamisch]

As useal, all great replies. It's a classical chicken /egg problem. Or perhaps the paradox of being broke. You need money to make money.

You gotta lie your way into SOME womans pants. Might not be your "style" but I would use whatever is necessary.

- I came out a long LTR /marriage
_just released outta prison.
- religious family upbringing and I recently ditched that believe.
-been deployed overseas for years.

ALL BLATANT LIES.

Where we as men love a woman from an isolated ,over protected background z women hate that shyte. We as men love a virgin whom only touched our D, women rather have a super player and share him with each other. Always remember that.

 

[Mike32ct]

Or, the dude could lower his standards, and actually gain experience...

Yeah, I alluded to a possible older woman in my post. Or one that is kind of chill personality-wise, looks aside.

BTW, because of feminism and the implied message a woman owes you pity svx and metoo nonsence, I would not put that on a profile as it might attract the wrong type of attention. You have some malicious elemsnts you have to be careful with. Dont bring it up on a profile. There are too many sexless men to feel special about it or feel it would have an appeal vs 00s or earlier.

Good points. Yeah, in 2022, there is no more "shock value" associated with a guy being sexless in order to trigger any empathy or pity; it also doesn't make the guy "special" either. It probably had some (limited) value up to the early 2000s.

 

[Gamisch]

Yeah, definitely lower standards. I alluded to a possible "older woman" in my post.



Good points. Yeah, in 2022, there is no more "shock value" associated with a guy being sexless in order to trigger any empathy or pity; it also doesn't make the guy "special" either. It probably had some (limited) value up to the early 2000s.

Nowedays your best chance as a man is convert to a religion and say "in the name of God you wish to stay pure".

But then again, one of my best friends is muslim. His little brother is 32,sitting at home heavily depressed because the plan (marry a nice muslim and leave the house) doesn't seem to work. Muslima' s ALSO want a Chad, just like her non religious female colleagues/friends ect..

They are now contemplating a plan to get a woman from the main land and bring her to Europe.

 

[corrector]

Nowedays your best chance as a man is convert to a religion and say "in the name of God you wish to stay pure".

But then again, one of my best friends is muslim. His little brother is 32,sitting at home heavily depressed because the plan (marry a nice muslim and leave the house) doesn't seem to work. Muslima' s ALSO want a Chad, just like her non religious female colleagues/friends ect..

They are now contemplating a plan to get a woman from the main land and being her to Europe.

Agreed on the second and third paragraph with contradicted the first (which both know is wishful bluepill thinking). Brining a girl to mainland Europe might work. Know a Muslim guy (now unfortunately dead, a while back, because of aggressive multiple cancers), who went to Jordan and found a Muslim wife, brought her back to England and she was wonderful to him. She stayed with him to his deathbed and was a loving wife the whole time. However, not to be a killjoy, this was also a while back before the feminist cancer spread to other places. I cant say if he would be met with the same success if he tried today. With everyone chiming in about how terrible it is and only chads are happy campers, it would look like there would be doubts about that too.

 

[needimprovement250]

I understand it's just a hypothetical or a "thought experiment." It's a fair question.

My best guess is zero matches at worst or maybe one fat chick will talk to you only (i.e. friendzone) at best.

There is no such thing as "pity sex" for a single incel or nearcel guy.


You would need a "normal" profile to try to find a girlfriend. Even then, you have three options:

a) Don't say anything about the inexperience and try to just own the situation.

b) Mention a lengthy dry spell if and only if things start to head towards intimacy.

c) Be honest about the inexperience (after a few weeks) if you honestly think she could handle it, e.g. if she's an older woman and/or just a chill chick that really likes you.

As useal, all great replies. It's a classical chicken /egg problem. Or perhaps the paradox of being broke. You need money to make money.

You gotta lie your way into SOME womans pants. Might not be your "style" but I would use whatever is necessary.

- I came out a long LTR /marriage
_just released outta prison.
- religious family upbringing and I recently ditched that believe.
-been deployed overseas for years.

ALL BLATANT LIES.

Where we as men love a woman from an isolated ,over protected background z women hate that shyte. We as men love a virgin whom only touched our D, women rather have a super player and share him with each other. Always remember that.

Yeah like I said, this question is all hypothetical and I just wanted to get predictions since I would never mention this in my OLD bio. But I still can’t get past the mindset that a guy being inexperienced is pretty much a death sentence to his dating prospects, even though people on here have told me not to think that way. Its like it is so deep rooted in me that I can’t let go of it. I’ve read several Reddit posts from inexperienced guys who have been repeatedly rejected because of it and feel very frustrated since they feel like they’re stuck in a catch-22, one guy on Reddit even said he became a 30 year old virgin because he kept getting rejected for having no experience until he finally reached that age, then it just got worse. Also videos like these are very discouraging and make me think there’s no point in even trying to date, these women in the videos say that preselection matters and that they don’t wanna have to teach a guy. Even Andrew Tate said that women are repulsed by inexperienced men.

 

[needimprovement250]

I tried that out in 2006 and it worked. But it was strained, hard and ended up cancelling the hookup. The lady even thought my profile pic was cute but questioned why an inexperienced guy would go with any random girl. That was November 2006. Today I dont know if that would work at all or be the same. If you are looking for a girlfriend then I dont think its helpful since you should see if you are compatible first and how you get along with her. At the end of the day, if you are healrhy and dont need Viagara you should be good.

BTW, because of feminism and the implied message a woman owes you pity svx and metoo nonsence, I would not put that on a profile as it might attract the wrong type of attention. You have some malicious elemsnts you have to be careful with. Dont bring it up on a profile. There are too many sexless men to feel special about it or feel it would have an appeal vs 00s or earlier.

Yeah I could see that working back then because like you said before awhile back, only about 5% of young men were sexless in the early 2000’s and today its up to 30%. So there’s less pity for sexless men as there was several years ago, but unfortunately it seems that the stigma of a man not having much sexual experience hasn’t lessened very much despite the rise in the number of sexless men.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Yeah I could see that working back then because like you said before awhile back, only about 5% of young men were sexless in the early 2000’s and today its up to 30%. So there’s less pity for sexless men as there was several years ago, but unfortunately it seems that the stigma of a man not having much sexual experience hasn’t lessened very much despite the rise in the number of sexless men.

Why would one want pity sex to being with??? I'd rather bang a fat woman who's dying for my djck, than a good looking woman who's like fvcking a corpse out of pity...

 

[Gamisch]

Yeah like I said, this question is all hypothetical and I just wanted to get predictions since I would never mention this in my OLD bio. But I still can’t get past the mindset that a guy being inexperienced is pretty much a death sentence to his dating prospects, even though people on here have told me not to think that way. Its like it is so deep rooted in me that I can’t let go of it. I’ve read several Reddit posts from inexperienced guys who have been repeatedly rejected because of it and feel very frustrated since they feel like they’re stuck in a catch-22, one guy on Reddit even said he became a 30 year old virgin because he kept getting rejected for having no experience until he finally reached that age, then it just got worse. Also videos like these are very discouraging and make me think there’s no point in even trying to date, these women in the videos say that preselection matters and that they don’t wanna have to teach a guy. Even Andrew Tate said that women are repulsed by inexperienced men.

The 30 y.o virgin went on a date and started asking her questions like " when was your last LTr"?.

An experienced dude goes on a date with the same woman and never mentions his past nor does he asks for hers. If she pushes the issue he'll either give vague answers, or be smart enough to make it look like he was the one who ended it. He wont say he's been cheated on the last 5 relationships or something like that.

The experienced dude will go through phase 1( introduction phase) without revealing too much. Just a fun playfull date with some flirting and kino involved. Then move to phase 2(kissing ect) and ofcourse the third phase, sleeping with her.

Your past ect, all this MIGHT be pillowtalk. Even then I would be cautious about it .

So the 30 y.o virging basically lacks the ability to sell himself. He's been programmed to be honest and open. Which is crazy because he didn't got the results he wanted, yet he seems unable to switch up his strategy. The definition of insanity.

 

[Mike32ct]

Yeah I could see that working back then because like you said before awhile back, only about 5% of young men were sexless in the early 2000’s and today its up to 30%. So there’s less pity for sexless men as there was several years ago, but unfortunately it seems that the stigma of a man not having much sexual experience hasn’t lessened very much despite the rise in the number of sexless men.

Yeah, I lost my virginity at 28. It wasn't that big a deal in 2003. The girl (26 at the time) was super cool about it.

Yeah like I said, this question is all hypothetical and I just wanted to get predictions since I would never mention this in my OLD bio. But I still can’t get past the mindset that a guy being inexperienced is pretty much a death sentence to his dating prospects, even though people on here have told me not to think that way. Its like it is so deep rooted in me that I can’t let go of it. I’ve read several Reddit posts from inexperienced guys who have been repeatedly rejected because of it and feel very frustrated since they feel like they’re stuck in a catch-22, one guy on Reddit even said he became a 30 year old virgin because he kept getting rejected for having no experience until he finally reached that age, then it just got worse. Also videos like these are very discouraging and make me think there’s no point in even trying to date, these women in the videos say that preselection matters and that they don’t wanna have to teach a guy. Even Andrew Tate said that women are repulsed by inexperienced men.

While there is a decent amount of truth to the above, you really should not dwell on that.

You are worried about what is on the roof, but you haven't climbed up a rung on the ladder yet. Think baby steps instead.

1. Don't mention the inexperience thing. See if you can get a chick to meet up with you for a drink.

2. You might only get a conversation and then ghosted or friendzoned. It's ok.

3. Might get to a makeout with the next chick.

4. Might get the next chick's shirt off at her place.

And so forth... Build up (or rebuild) your experience "portfolio" over time. Even if it takes six months or year to get back in the sack.

TLDR: It's definitely still possible for you, but it's probably not going to be 0-60 in 3.2s.

 

[corrector]

Yeah like I said, this question is all hypothetical and I just wanted to get predictions since I would never mention this in my OLD bio. But I still can’t get past the mindset that a guy being inexperienced is pretty much a death sentence to his dating prospects, even though people on here have told me not to think that way. Its like it is so deep rooted in me that I can’t let go of it. I’ve read several Reddit posts from inexperienced guys who have been repeatedly rejected because of it and feel very frustrated since they feel like they’re stuck in a catch-22, one guy on Reddit even said he became a 30 year old virgin because he kept getting rejected for having no experience until he finally reached that age, then it just got worse. Also videos like these are very discouraging and make me think there’s no point in even trying to date, these women in the videos say that preselection matters and that they don’t wanna have to teach a guy. Even Andrew Tate said that women are repulsed by inexperienced men.

What is the difference in your head between inexperience and a long dry spell? Think about it this way, pretend you lost your virginity like 10 years ago, what difference would that make to you today? You just have some checkmark? All your problems with women are solved?

You just become an incel who lost his virginity 10 years ago, with a 10 year dry-spell. See, no difference?

 

[corrector]

Yeah I could see that working back then because like you said before awhile back, only about 5% of young men were sexless in the early 2000’s and today its up to 30%. So there’s less pity for sexless men as there was several years ago, but unfortunately it seems that the stigma of a man not having much sexual experience hasn’t lessened very much despite the rise in the number of sexless men.

Its not the same type of stigma though? Any stigma in 2022 is feminist indoctrination and shaming. There is another thread on here that talked about a guy getting the police called on him for saying hello to a lady. Did you read that thread? Its really toxic right now and when everything becomes a stigma, I think the meaning of it loses it's intrinsic value, especially if the volume is over 30%...then its a systemic problem contributing to the eventual decline and ruin of society rather than a stigma. Its really tough out there and I think you should not internalize feminist concepts because they send mixed messages where you are always a loser no matter what you do.