The REAL reason most guys failt at Cold Approach/Daygame

[Divorced w 3]

Bruh if a girl doesnt orgasm it makes you wonder if its her, or just you. You start to wonder if she orgasmed with the other guys.

Then you become insecure lol...it sucks

Not me. Never doubted myself. Actually it pushed me. I think she was the longest I ever had. Took like 2+ hours one night trying to get her off. Never happened. But I’ve had girls squirt all over the sheets

 

[SargeMaximus]

Not me. Never doubted myself. Actually it pushed me. I think she was the longest I ever had. Took like 2+ hours one night trying to get her off. Never happened. But I’ve had girls squirt all over the sheets

Same man. My ex who couldn’t cvm, took me over an hour and she finally came. Or at least, that’s what she said. I wasn’t willing to try again.

didn’t matter, we had sex multiple times a day the whole time we were together. Eye opening experience for me

 

[Divorced w 3]

Yeah I want to be the perpetual fwb. Although having a steady one would be nice. My ex was great. Did everything I wanted in bed and I only made her cvm once. She was a real trooper. I need more women like that

I’m still convinced my former mother in law wants to hit it. I saw her yesterday and today and she’s still talking about her fcked up marriage to her husband. She knows I am literally bashing her daughter in formal legal correspondence. She’s so sexually frustrated it’s crazy. I can’t offer her even remotely what her husband can financially, doesn’t mean I haven’t seen her a couple of times over the years ‘accidentally’ pulling her panties up / there is short term and then there is hypergamy

 

[SargeMaximus]

I’m still convinced my former mother in law wants to hit it. She’s so sexually frustrated it’s crazy. I can’t offer her even remotely what her husband can financially, doesn’t mean I haven’t seen her a couple of times over the years ‘accidentally’ pulling her panties up / there is short term and then there is hypergamy

How to make those short terms more frequent and with the same girl would be quite the hack

 

[Divorced w 3]

How to make those short terms more frequent and with the same girl would be quite the hack

I bet you in the right moment I could pull it off. I’m kinda interested.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I bet you in the right moment I could pull it off. I’m kinda interested.

That would be awesome. I would if it was me. And if I knew how to escalate like that

 

[Divorced w 3]

That would be awesome. I would if it was me. And if I knew how to escalate like that

I mean it would be amazing. Revengiest fck ever

 

[SargeMaximus]

I mean it would be amazing. Revengiest fck ever

So true. If you do, I hope you’ll let us know

 

[Pandora]

I mean it would be amazing. Revengiest fck ever

Do it! Unless you know her husband then dont do it.....

 

[Divorced w 3]

So true. If you do, I hope you’ll let us know

I’ll settle for nothing less than anal and you’ll all be the first to know

 

[SargeMaximus]

I’ll settle for nothing less than anal and you’ll all be the first to know

Damn I never done anal. Don’t like the smell but whatever floats your boat

 

[Divorced w 3]

Damn I never done anal. Don’t like the smell but whatever floats your boat

It’s Zulu level. Only way to dominate a tribe is bang your enemies wife in the tail pipe.

 

[SargeMaximus]

It’s Zulu level. Only way to dominate a tribe is bang your enemies wife in the tail pipe.

I guess I’m too cerebral for that. Turns me off

 

[Divorced w 3]

I guess I’m too cerebral for that. Turns me off

Was only joking

 

[SargeMaximus]

Was only joking

Which also proves I’m too cerebral

 

[SW15]

Seduction is sales. In sales cold calling has a low percentage of success. If you must cold approach you better be good looking and funny.

There's a lot of truth to this. Attraction-seduction is somewhat analogous to elements of both sales and marketing.

In business, cold calling has been a discredited sales method since the 1990s, but plenty of organizations are still using it or some modified form of it. There are now many sales reps sending cold pitches in the DMs on LinkedIn, which is roughly similar to sliding into DMs on Instagram. There are also plenty of sales attempts made via email and telephone. B2B brands are far worse of cold calling sales pitches than B2C brands in my experiences, though both sides have a lot of lousy brands doing cold calling.

If you see a brand using cold calling sales tactics, then it is sign that their marketing practices are generally ineffective.

While not all of this applies to approaching women, there is some similarity. Approaching strangers for sexual/romantic purposes is going to be a more difficult path than getting social circle introductions. The problem is that fewer and fewer men have a social circle capable of arranging dates. If you're a man with a capable social circle, you're not spending time on forums like SoSuave.

Another option for men is only doing in-person stranger approaches when you see good indicators of interest. I like this idea. To some degree, I've implemented it myself. Doing this does require a man to go outside in-person a fair amount and likely do some approach sessions. It also requires knowledge of what the indicators of indicators are and how to be aware that you're receiving them. I did gain the awareness of what the indicators of interest were fairly early in life. Even when I was on a college campus, I knew what they were. In terms of getting choosing signals, good looking will help out with this. My photo ratings have been in the 6.5-7.5 range when I've done them online. I still don't get a ton of approach invitations and haven't in my 2+ decades in the mating environment. I have stories about this below.

I like to think back to my 2001-2005 era on a college campus. I went to a "Hot Girl U" school, a large public university with a great party scene and a reputation for attractive females. How regularly was I getting choosing signals then? Not regularly. I wasn't getting them regularly enough to rely exclusively on them, but it is better to do those sorts of approaches if you receive the indicators. Even as a guy who was probably a legit 6.5-7 even then, I was fairly invisible on choosing signals in my classes, walking on campus between classes, in the dining hall as a freshman in the dorms, and in the on-campus gym. This also happened in an era of fewer tech zombies too. Apple didn't introduce the first iPhone until 2+ years after my graduation. If people had cell phones then, they were basic phones and even in my freshman year, cell phones weren't all too common. Basic phones started to get more common in my sophomore and junior years (2002-2004). Apple introduced the iPod in Fall 2001 (my first semester freshman year). You would see some women using iPods in the gym and walking between classes in that era, but it wasn't that common, even as late as my junior and senior years.

Thinking back on it now, daygame and gym approaches would have been much easier in that era than what I have experienced more recently. Even then, I was more "night game" focused, as I did approaches at random off campus parties at apartment complexes. This wasn't social circle game because a lot of these parties were mega bashes. There were some apartment complexes that were well known party hubs at the time, and if you showed up to these complexes, you could find your way to a party.

It's not worth getting too upset about now how I underutilized daygame in that era simply because any relationship I would have formed by now would have ended long ago. I know one couple now in their 30s that have lasted since both were in college, but the exceptions form the rule. Few college formed relationships from college attendees of the 2000s have stood the test of time. Most college relationships formed on campus in 2000s didn't last more than a few years after college at best, a trend that continued into the 2010s.

I have spent the past 10+ years in one of the biggest cities in the USA. As a guy in his late 20s and 30s, I have lived in areas with a lot of 20s/30s people in close proximity. In terms of choosing signals, I've probably gotten choosing signals from a fairly similar percentage of women in the big city as I did on the college campus, so I could rely on them exclusively. The problem is that in daygame, I see way fewer eligible women than I would on a college campus. In my big city, if I consider a week where I daygame my gym (including fitness classes), my office building (I work some days in the office and some at home), a grocery store, and a walking path, I see way fewer eligible women than I would have seen at college if I daygamed the student gym (including fitness class), my academic classes, and randomly daygamed while walking on campus between classes and to the library to study.

Big city nightlife game and off campus college night time party game are comparable in terms of attractive women in one spot.

Cold approaching gives you an adrenaline rush like non other. You also get some really cool stories from it. Mostly you just get depression lol.

That would be similar to my experiences in approaching strangers, both in non-bar venues and bars/nightclubs. I have been more daygame oriented in my 30s than bar/nightclub oriented.

 

[Pandora]

Damn I never done anal. Don’t like the smell but whatever floats your boat

I did it twice. Both with the same girl. I really liked this girl physically so I said lemme try. It was her idea.

First time went well but it feel to membranous for me. Yuck

Second time lets just say we had some..... gross complications

NEVER AGAIN

 

[corrector]

There's a lot of truth to this. Attraction-seduction is somewhat analogous to elements of both sales and marketing.

In business, cold calling has been a discredited sales method since the 1990s, but plenty of organizations are still using it or some modified form of it. There are now many sales reps sending cold pitches in the DMs on LinkedIn, which is roughly similar to sliding into DMs on Instagram. There are also plenty of sales attempts made via email and telephone. B2B brands are far worse of cold calling sales pitches than B2C brands in my experiences, though both sides have a lot of lousy brands doing cold calling.

If you see a brand using cold calling sales tactics, then it is sign that their marketing practices are generally ineffective.

While not all of this applies to approaching women, there is some similarity. Approaching strangers for sexual/romantic purposes is going to be a more difficult path than getting social circle introductions. The problem is that fewer and fewer men have a social circle capable of arranging dates. If you're a man with a capable social circle, you're not spending time on forums like SoSuave.

Another option for men is only doing in-person stranger approaches when you see good indicators of interest. I like this idea. To some degree, I've implemented it myself. Doing this does require a man to go outside in-person a fair amount and likely do some approach sessions. It also requires knowledge of what the indicators of indicators are and how to be aware that you're receiving them. I did gain the awareness of what the indicators of interest were fairly early in life. Even when I was on a college campus, I knew what they were. In terms of getting choosing signals, good looking will help out with this. My photo ratings have been in the 6.5-7.5 range when I've done them online. I still don't get a ton of approach invitations and haven't in my 2+ decades in the mating environment. I have stories about this below.

I like to think back to my 2001-2005 era on a college campus. I went to a "Hot Girl U" school, a large public university with a great party scene and a reputation for attractive females. How regularly was I getting choosing signals then? Not regularly. I wasn't getting them regularly enough to rely exclusively on them, but it is better to do those sorts of approaches if you receive the indicators. Even as a guy who was probably a legit 6.5-7 even then, I was fairly invisible on choosing signals in my classes, walking on campus between classes, in the dining hall as a freshman in the dorms, and in the on-campus gym. This also happened in an era of fewer tech zombies too. Apple didn't introduce the first iPhone until 2+ years after my graduation. If people had cell phones then, they were basic phones and even in my freshman year, cell phones weren't all too common. Basic phones started to get more common in my sophomore and junior years (2002-2004). Apple introduced the iPod in Fall 2001 (my first semester freshman year). You would see some women using iPods in the gym and walking between classes in that era, but it wasn't that common, even as late as my junior and senior years.

Thinking back on it now, daygame and gym approaches would have been much easier in that era than what I have experienced more recently. Even then, I was more "night game" focused, as I did approaches at random off campus parties at apartment complexes. This wasn't social circle game because a lot of these parties were mega bashes. There were some apartment complexes that were well known party hubs at the time, and if you showed up to these complexes, you could find your way to a party.

It's not worth getting too upset about now how I underutilized daygame in that era simply because any relationship I would have formed by now would have ended long ago. I know one couple now in their 30s that have lasted since both were in college, but the exceptions form the rule. Few college formed relationships from college attendees of the 2000s have stood the test of time. Most college relationships formed on campus in 2000s didn't last more than a few years after college at best, a trend that continued into the 2010s.

I have spent the past 10+ years in one of the biggest cities in the USA. As a guy in his late 20s and 30s, I have lived in areas with a lot of 20s/30s people in close proximity. In terms of choosing signals, I've probably gotten choosing signals from a fairly similar percentage of women in the big city as I did on the college campus, so I could rely on them exclusively. The problem is that in daygame, I see way fewer eligible women than I would on a college campus. In my big city, if I consider a week where I daygame my gym (including fitness classes), my office building (I work some days in the office and some at home), a grocery store, and a walking path, I see way fewer eligible women than I would have seen at college if I daygamed the student gym (including fitness class), my academic classes, and randomly daygamed while walking on campus between classes and to the library to study.

Big city nightlife game and off campus college night time party game are comparable in terms of attractive women in one spot.



That would be similar to my experiences in approaching strangers, both in non-bar venues and bars/nightclubs. I have been more daygame oriented in my 30s than bar/nightclub oriented.

Is this a thesis?

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

By "looking for it" I mean in the way an employer is looking for employees. It's not a search consuming every waking second, the employer isn't going to the liquor store looking for employees, but if one happens to come his way there he might be like "Know what? This person would be a good fit for my business." It's an active need, even though it's not something you go out and look for every day.

Um. That is kinda my point.

To connect with someone when you've got your own **** to deal with is kind of a big deal.

If you want it enough, you will make the time.

Especially if I'm not particularly hurting for sex/affection right now.

Well, that is a different story, isnt it?

I as a man might be captivated by a strange woman, but only if she's REALLY hot, the sex is almost guaranteed, and it wouldn't be too inconvenient for me to pursue this. Because again, I got my own **** to deal with. I'm not having sex with anybody the night before work.

Oh. Ok. Gotcha

But that's me as a man. I imagine it's similar for women, except with women they're not just looking for casual sex with hot, strange men. They're looking for life commitments.

What makes you think that?

 

[SargeMaximus]

I did it twice. Both with the same girl. I really liked this girl physically so I said lemme try. It was her idea.

First time went well but it feel to membranous for me. Yuck

Second time lets just say we had some..... gross complications

NEVER AGAIN

Yeah I can imagine. Most girls aren’t porn stars. Porn stars prep for a whole day before an anal scene I read somewhere