Single Moms Are Looking for Suckers

[jaymbrs]

Point blank. They don't want a man of value or a man who is smart with his money or even a good looking guy. They just want someone who is dumb enough to take on the burden of raising someone else's kids while at the same time helping her catch up on the goals in life that she wasn't able to achieve due to raising her kids alone. I know I'll catch flak for this from some of the guys here. But I've witnessed a couple of friends give up their entire lives just to meet the needs of these single moms and their offspring. Not to mention some baby daddy drama. One of them in particular had to stay home to look after the kids while mom was off at school getting her masters. Sounds like a romance novel doesn't it? Til now the mom is feeling empowered with the better financial situation she's in and suddenly there are some serious issues in the marriage. Go figure.

So if you're trying to seriously date single moms, just know what you are to her.

 

[SW15]

Male thirst is the real pandemic. Some men are going to be thirsty enough to settle for a single mom. They figure that single mom sex is better than no sex at all.

There is some sense in the single dad - single mom pairing.

For childless men, it doesn't make sense to date a single mom on any level. It's unfortunate that plenty of childless men will get into a relationship with a single mom because they think that's their best option for sex.

There are also plenty of 35-49 year old single moms who have sex with substantially younger (10+ years), childless men after a divorce while collecting some nice alimony/child support payments from their ex. Those interactions rarely last longer than 12 months and both sides usually know it's temporary. It's a great ego boost for the single mom though. There are even men in their early to mid-30s who do this with older women.

 

[Kotaix]

Single moms know damn well that most quality men will ignore them because of this exact reason. They have to settle for suckers, and they may be pretending to be something they're not in order to snag a man. Then once married, she has rights to half his sh!t and may revert to being the harpy that drove away her last husband.

 

[MatureDJ]

Male thirst is the real pandemic. Some men are going to be thirsty enough to settle for a single mom. They figure that single mom sex is better than no sex at all.

There is some sense in the single dad - single mom pairing.

For childless men, it doesn't make sense to date a single mom on any level. It's unfortunate that plenty of childless men will get into a relationship with a single mom because they think that's their best option for sex.

I can remember some dark times in the mid-90s when it seemed like there were no non-fat, childless women around, and the only women that I seemed to be able to hit up were single mommies. I went on a few dates, but I just didn't have the stomach for a second date (although if somehow I had gotten well-serviced on that first date, I think I would have stuck around a bit ). It wasn't until I discovered GeoMaxxing that I could once and for all reject all single mommies.

A hungry man will eat almost anything.

 

[SW15]

A hungry man will eat almost anything.

This is true. Men are more sexually starved now than ever,

I can remember some dark times in the mid-90s when it seemed like there were no non-fat, childless women around, and the only women that I seemed to be able to hit up were single mommies. I went on a few dates, but I just didn't have the stomach for a second date (although if somehow I had gotten well-serviced on that first date, I think I would have stuck around a bit ). It wasn't until I discovered GeoMaxxing that I could once and for all reject all single mommies.

How come you weren't getting first date sex from single moms?

Incel status was a bit unusual in the mid-1990s. Incel status didn't really become a big thing until the Millennials became sexually mature in the early 2000s. You were probably ahead of the incel curve due to being a short man. You had company then. Neil Strauss is only 5'6" and he was an incel despite being a 1969 born Gen X'er. It wasn't until Strauss started running around with Mystery and other PUAs that he learned how to get his penis wet despite being 5'6".

Not only were you disadvantaged due to height, you were also fuccked over in the social circle department. You went to that all boys Catholic high school. The only males that can sexually survive an all boys high school are the ones with a good network of female acquaintances from their K-8 years. If you don't have that going into 9th grade, you're destined for a lousy high school experience. Most all boys high schools also have mixers/dances with local all girls schools too and somehow yours didn't.

 

[corrector]

Not necessarily. You have an okay High School experience, but you struggle when you go back into a co-ed environment like a University or Colleage affterwards since issues that should have been better sorted out in High School are now being trashed when there is money on the line and you are in University and have to perform. Bad time to be having oneitises, wanting to have first-time experiences or crushing after girls and making bad course decisions. With High School, at worst, may get bad grades and rebound later. With University, you lose your money, wrack up student debt and end up with a mediocre degree that can't do anything for you.

 

[MatureDJ]

Not only were you disadvantaged due to height, you were also fuccked over in the social circle department. You went to that all boys Catholic high school. The only males that can sexually survive an all boys high school are the ones with a good network of female acquaintances from their K-8 years. If you don't have that going into 9th grade, you're destined for a lousy high school experience. Most all boys high schools also have mixers/dances with local all girls schools too and somehow yours didn't.

I had friends that went to a coed school up through 8th grade, and that was a little bit of a social circle to hang onto , and I was fairly aggressive at taking any opportunity to ask a chick out. I learned that there are chicks that are "serial dance dates", and I remember one gal (she was in 11th grade, at an all-girls school) that had on her dresser about 12 dance pics , and most of them were Chad-tier; maybe my school was the only one that she hadn't gone to a dance to.

But, yes, such a social environment is tough for a lad. A look at the 2nd & 3rd last Supreme Court justices shows how the segregated sex experience is far more difficult for a lad than a la33.

 

[BadBoy89]

Male thirst is the real pandemic. Some men are going to be thirsty enough to settle for a single mom. They figure that single mom sex is better than no sex at all.

Single-mom sex is OK. But NOTHING else.

I would marry an actress who got nude in front of the whole world in a classic movie but had never married and was childless, than a woman who only had 1 partner and was a single mom.

 

[SW15]

You went to that all boys Catholic high school.

But, yes, such a social environment is tough for a lad. A look at the 2nd & 3rd last Supreme Court justices shows how the segregated sex experience is far more difficult for a lad than a la33.

Spending 4 crucial years of your life away from daily female interaction is environmentally damaging. To me, it doesn't matter how good the academics are and how much it may help you with college admissions. If someone wants good academics, it's a better play to read books in spare time while attending a co-ed school. There are co-ed private high schools that give a better academic experience than a public high school and a male doesn't have to sacrifice being around females.

I agree that an all girls high school experience isn't as difficult for females as all boys high schools are socially for males.

Single motherhood results in women regardless of whether they attend a public high school, a private co-ed high school, or an all girls private high school. I think single motherhood looks different for the women who attend private co-ed high school and all girls, private high schools. Those single moms are more likely to have bachelor's and advanced degrees. If you're a single mom with a bachelor's or advanced level degree, you're in better shape than a single mom with a high school diploma/GED (including college dropouts) or associate degree. There are some women with associate/trade degrees are successful and very dateable (when childless), like dental hygienists. However, a single mom dental hygienist will at least do well enough that she could support her 1-2 kids even if she had a deadbeat ex and didn't collect child support.

Single-mom sex is OK. But NOTHING else.

Yes, single moms can be decent plates, especially the single moms that have bachelor's and advanced degrees. As discussed in another thread, women with advanced degrees are not girlfriend material when childless. They can be plates though.

However, all single mom interactions are more difficult than childless woman interactions. Even in a plate situation, there are easier plates to spin.

No single moms, no exceptions is a solid dating policy to have.

I would marry an actress who got nude in front of the whole world in a classic movie but had never married and was childless, than a woman who only had 1 partner and was a single mom.

Both situations stink for a marriage because the actress likely has a high notch count that would lead to a divorce. However, the lesser bad of the two situations is probably the childless actress. Wifing up a single mom is a bad idea too. It's going to create a different and what I consider to be a worse set of problems.

 

[Mike32ct]

My high school had something like a 6 to 1 guy to girl ratio.

Then was an engineering student in college. So, the ratio did not improve.

 

[pipeman84]

Let's put things in perspective here: meet Jane, 28yrs old, had a boyfriend in high-school, got together with another guy in college, they were together in total for 6 yrs, she is now a single mom with a 3yrs old child.
meet Sarah, 28yrs old, she too had a boyfriend in high-school, then 5 more guys she was in STRs/LTRs with. no kids.

So a guy who wants to enter a relationship with Jane is a sucker while the one who gets together with Sarah is to be congratulated? Why is that? Oh, because you'll always be no.2 after the child...yeah, well, do you really think that being the 7th dyck inside Sarah makes you no.1 in her mind? Oh, because the burden of the little child....yeah, what about the burden of dealing with Sarah's shyt? It must be stinking pretty bad that she couldn't hold on to any of those previous 6 guys.

 

[corsica]

Harsh reality is that men get into a relationship with a single mom due to lack of options. Like SW15 said, sex with a single mom is better than no sex at all.

When I see a man with a fat woman, I know he's low value. Same with a single mom.

In the example above from pipeman84; at least with Sarah, I don't have to see her "past" (sex life) walking around me (I mean the kid if someone don't follow).
I've seen a guy marry a prostitute and take her to his home country. They're happily married, got a kid and I bet his family and other friends don't know she was a prostitute. Being a h0e in the past is easier to conceal than another man's baby.
And even for the ones who have been cucked, imagine taking care of another man's kid for some years and then losing total contact when you breakup with the mom. It's sad.


As a bachelor I have to point also about something not mentioned; body transformation for the worse. I'm in vacation right now and I banged dozen chicks. Two of them had baby (none of them told me initially). But I could see those lifeless tits and some stretch marks in their stomachs. They had the kids when young so you couldn't tell with clothes. It was such a turn off that if it wasn't for Viagra and alcohol, I wouldn't know if I could do it. Call me vain but now that I'm older and I have more options, I would never get into a relationship with a single mom. It doesn't matter how beautiful and pleasant she is.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

This is mostly untrue. None of the single Moms I have dated wanted that at all as the father's were still involved in their kids lives.

Maybe if they dated loser dudes who aren't around at all.

 

[SW15]

My high school had something like a 6 to 1 guy to girl ratio.

Then was an engineering student in college. So, the ratio did not improve.

What kind of high school has a 6 to 1 guy to girl ratio?

You did get a STEM degree, which is useful. Engineering majors don't have access to a lot of women in classes. If you are an Engineering major who wants some vagina while on campus, you're going to have to do random campus day game, find off campus parties, or join a fraternity and hope you can get into one of the decent fraternities. My sense is that a lower tier fraternity isn't worth the effort.

Observations about college sex life from someone that went to a party school.

I thought I'd share this as someone who went to a party school and was in a fraternity there as well. Not wanting to give too much about myself but I went to UGA and graduated a few years ago. While Athens has its hot girls, I do feel like the quality got worse every year due to the admission...

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Let's put things in perspective here: meet Jane, 28yrs old, had a boyfriend in high-school, got together with another guy in college, they were together in total for 6 yrs, she is now a single mom with a 3yrs old child.
meet Sarah, 28yrs old, she too had a boyfriend in high-school, then 5 more guys she was in STRs/LTRs with. no kids.

So a guy who wants to enter a relationship with Jane is a sucker while the one who gets together with Sarah is to be congratulated? Why is that? Oh, because you'll always be no.2 after the child...yeah, well, do you really think that being the 7th dyck inside Sarah makes you no.1 in her mind? Oh, because the burden of the little child....yeah, what about the burden of dealing with Sarah's shyt? It must be stinking pretty bad that she couldn't hold on to any of those previous 6 guys.

Both options being 28 is on the younger side. Single moms are often 33-45.

Sarah is the better choice than Jane. Because Sarah is childless, it's going to be easier to schedule dates with her. Sarah may lack true bonding ability, which would not bode well for a marriage, but she would have the potential to be a decent medium term girlfriend for somewhere between 2-5 years in most cases.

A 28 year old with a notch count of 7 is not bad. Over the years, I have been on plenty of dates with 25-35 year olds who have definitely had notch counts higher than 7. Higher notch count women can make passable girlfriends but aren't worth the marital commitment with the downside risks.

The problem with Jane is that you already have an instant family when you're dating her, which is difficult for a childless man. Forming new relationships is already tough enough without the whole child thing as a part of the relationship equation. It's also unknown whether Jane's ex is a deadbeat or not. Jane might have had the child out of wedlock with a boyfriend or filed for divorce in a marriage. Neither looks good for her. Women who are widows are understandable as they did things the right way in most cases. Finding a female widow is semi-rare under age 45. I still wouldn't date a single mom from a widowing situation but it is the most preferred situation as compared to baby daddy drama.

As a bachelor I have to point also about something not mentioned; body transformation for the worse. I'm in vacation right now and I banged dozen chicks. Two of them had baby (none of them told me initially). But I could see those lifeless tits and some stretch marks in their stomachs. They had the kids when young so you couldn't tell with clothes. It was such a turn off that if it wasn't for Viagra and alcohol, I wouldn't know if I could do it. Call me vain but now that I'm older and I have more options, I would never get into a relationship with a single mom. It doesn't matter how beautiful and pleasant she is.

If you ever have kids with a woman and want to remain in a relationship with that woman, you're probably going to be dealing with lifeless tits and possibly stretch marks from the mother of your child/children.

I agree with you that it is worse to have sex with a mom when you didn't father her children.

Throughout my 30s, I have had sex with childless women. Even though I haven't achieved big age gaps, I have managed to have sex with childless 30 somethings.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Point blank. They don't want a man of value or a man who is smart with his money or even a good looking guy

But I thought women only wanted chads man lol

 

[SW15]

But I thought women only wanted chads man lol

A lot of single moms will settle for a Beta Bucks guy simply due to a lack of commitment options from higher tier men.

 

[pipeman84]

Sarah is the better choice than Jane. Because Sarah is childless, it's going to be easier to schedule dates with her. Sarah may lack true bonding ability, which would not bode well for a marriage, but she would have the potential to be a decent medium term girlfriend for somewhere between 2-5 years in most cases.

All I wanted to point out with my example is that once you're dealing with women with 3+ notch counts for LTR/marriage purposes, the potential of being the sucker is quite high. Single mom or not, the differences between them become quite blurry. The fact Sarah is childless doesn't necessarily imply she's superior...maybe she wanted a kid and none of those 6 guys she was with did. Maybe she couldn't get pregnant in the period she was with a particular guy that also wanted one.

 

[derby1]

Point blank. They don't want a man of value or a man who is smart with his money or even a good looking guy. They just want someone who is dumb enough to take on the burden of raising someone else's kids while at the same time helping her catch up on the goals in life that she wasn't able to achieve due to raising her kids alone. I know I'll catch flak for this from some of the guys here. But I've witnessed a couple of friends give up their entire lives just to meet the needs of these single moms and their offspring. Not to mention some baby daddy drama. One of them in particular had to stay home to look after the kids while mom was off at school getting her masters. Sounds like a romance novel doesn't it? Til now the mom is feeling empowered with the better financial situation she's in and suddenly there are some serious issues in the marriage. Go figure.

So if you're trying to seriously date single moms, just know what you are to her.

single moms are experts at theyre dating strategy. If they sniff in the slightest you are masculine/red pill they will ghost you. Best off giving slight beta naive vibes .

most single moms i know are also a genius at finding beta boyfriends who dont have social media. this way they can carry on their shenanigans online and he questions nothing.

Oh and 90 percent of them are Polyandry, Ive been the side lover to quite a few and it opened my eyes. they have an insatiable thirst for alpha males but not outside the bedroom. however they rage if they think you have a rooster of women.

best off presuming they have a B/f and going MODE 1.

"Look Im seriously attracted to you, I want you to come and spend the evening with me whilst your boyfriend is at work"

she will deny she has a b/f
decline you
say your cheeky

ignore this nonsense and reply with a smerk "consider my offer" (then you semi ghost her.)

trust me give it 1 month and her ***** will be wet after shes had a few drinks and shes wondering why your so mysterious. she will presume your alpha and can keep your mouth shut

youll get the late night DM "Hey"

 

[jaymbrs]

The worst thing I'm witnessing is women going through artificial insemination. What these women aren't realizing is men don't want to breed with them because they're unfit to be mothers. Poor bastard kids. They're going to be the ones who suffer.

 

[KingTurbo]

IDC how sex deprived I am. Going day 40 on SR.

You're mentality should be "That's my seed, she can have it when I say so."
Single moms should be have to qualify themselves to you. "You want this, work for it"

Just imagine every other guy who is on their knees for her but you have this mentality, you're going to stand out, you're going to be challenge.

"You can never go thirsty if you're the one who owns the well"